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Jury Finds Both Apple and Samsung Guilty of Patent Infringement, Samsung to Pay $119.6 Million, Apple to Pay $158,400
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Since the patents were about minor details (and IMO really not enough "innovation" to justify a patent in the 1st place) the damage to Apple was rather small and so they only gotten a small amount.
If one of these companies come up with a real invention instead of just minor improvements over what was before, than we might see real big verdicts in case of infringement.
Correct me if I'm wrong, jury awarded $52 million because the Galaxy S2 infringed the quick search patent, Judge Koh used construction claims that contradicted what Judge Posner and the Appeal Court stated, isn't?
Because there's no "justice" in a patent lawsuit, in much the same way there is no "theft". It's just "hey, you owe me money for this idea I own the implementation of".
Because its not about justice. It's about business. I find this whole patent litigation process a waste of time.
It shouldn't matter whether you invent something or not, but how you execute on it. Apple has invented a lot more than Samsung but they both deserve their success because of their execution. Obviously, BlackBerry and Nokia do not any longer despite their patent portfolio. They didn't execute.
The same way I believe Mark Zuckerberg deserves his success even though the Winkelweiss brothers invented the idea. Even if they did invent it, they didn't do anything with it. They came up with an idea and then went to a frat party. Zuckerberg actually built a company, crested thousands of jobs, and billions in wealth because he executed. That deserves praise, not just the idea or patent.
Samsung are pretty much the lowest company to date in terms of morality lmfao. I dunno how they can even do public appearances. They are so blatantly obvious with copying I would have a panic attack if I had to leave my korean government protected building.
I never said that. I only said that it's not the way to measure the worth of a patent. Never was and never should be. And if they were not unique whatsoever why did Samsung infringe on them? If they weren't really necessary to create a successful phone, why copy knowing you might pay for that in the future?
You say it like it's something specific to software patents. Do you follow the patents in medicine? You'd be surprised to learn what kind of stuff people can actually patent.
And there's really no way to separate the truly unique inventions from ones that are derivative. It's all opinions.
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Yes. But google makes no money off of android.. It available for the taking.
It would be hard for apple to show damages from google when they 1- dont make money off of it and 2-did not put a gun against anyone ones head to use android !
This has got to be one of the most stupid comments ever!!!!
If SAMSUNG goes, APPLE has to close down too. Where do you think they get a lot of the parts for the IPHONE?
You really think the same people involved in new product development were tied up in this lawsuit?
So how are we not paying for the lawyers? Do they work pro bono for APPLE? Of course you/we are paying for the lawyers, it's in the price of your device. Just like you "don't pay" for the ads, right? Where do you think the money comes from?
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Wow, I thought WardC made the most stupid comment here!!! But the award does go to you!!!!
There is such a thing as accidental infringement, which when you consider the patents covered and the damages rewarded, is probably what the jury classified them as. Willful infringement would've carried a much heavier burden with it.
And it's not so much "if they were not unique whatsoever, why did Samsung infringe on them" and more "if they were not unique whatsoever, why did Apple get a patent for them"? I mean one of them is a patent for autocorrect, for god sakes. How is it that in this day and age, with there being so much prior art for it, can anyone get a patent on that? And the universal search interface? It's ridiculous, and so very obvious to see how someone could accidentally infringe upon that.
Neither one of these are unique to the iPhone. Hell, they're not even unique to Apple platforms. Copernic Desktop does almost exactly what the universal search patent covers, and it came out in 97-98 or so.
You really put alot of weight on the US justice system, especially when it's a US company vs a foreign company. The US president even stepped in to protect Apple from Samsung when Samsung won a case in the USA.
Not as closely, but I've heard of a few good medical patent blunders before. I think I remember reading about someone wanting to patent a naturally occurring gene or some such just because they were the first to discover it.
The patent system in general is a double edged sword. When applied wisely, it protects and fosters innovation. When abused, it creates an environment where you can't do anything in a certain field without accidentally infringing on 50,000 patents in the process.
Does it matter....? Samsung will never pay up.*They will probably appeal some more and hold back the money, eventually they will owe each other nothing, except the lawyers got rich.
I agree Samsung and pretty much the rest of the tech companies copied the iPhone as hard as they could when it came out...But that´s just business, and it will always be like that. A popular device will always be copied...Apple is still earning as much as everyone else together and everybody "knows" apple made a dent in the universe with the iPhone, which came as a shock for the industry...so they have the credit and the money....So, I don´t understand why they even bother, even if its annoying....since it won´t go anywhere with these trials anyway, just lawyer fees.
I agree Samsung and pretty much the rest of the tech companies copied the iPhone as hard as they could when it came out...But that´s just business, and it will always be like that. A popular device will always be copied...Apple is still earning as much as everyone else together and everybody "knows" apple made a dent in the universe with the iPhone, which came as a shock for the industry...so they have the credit and the money....So, I don´t understand why they even bother, even if its annoying....since it won´t go anywhere with these trials anyway, just lawyer fees.