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I subscribed to Apple One not least because of Apple News.

And my God, is the app for that a stinker. It's a very modern Apple app, in that it's borderline user-hostile and scratching Apple's itch, rather than the user's.

Hidden sources​

So, you can hide news sources you don't want. I don't care for tabloids here in the UK, like the Sun and Daily Mail, so I hide them. But... Their stories still appear in the news feed! Just greyed out.

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That is so incredibly useless and intensely annoying. Why show me this?

You can make News hide these, via one of its few config options. Just tap "Restrict Stories in Today". But doing so means you lose features – you can no longer see Top Stories, Trending Stories, and Featured Stories.
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Why is Apple being so user-hostile here? Restricting headline categories like that is just an arbitrary decision. It has nothing to do with the fact I don't want to see certain news sources.

Accessibility isn't​

I use News on my phone and iPad mini while in bed at night. At that point I've taken out my contact lenses and no longer wear glasses. I have to enlarge the text.

There's no global setting to do this.

I have to adjust this setting individually for every single news source. This is infuriating. Open a news story. Squint. Tap to enlarge text. Repeat, ad nauseam.

Why isn't there just a central setting, like Books, to adjust the font scaling?

Can I change the fonts being used, say to a sans serif font that's easier to read for people with poor eyesight? No. Not even for individual sources, never mind as a global config option.

Configuration? Nope.​

There are almost no configuration options.

I don't care for sports, for example. Some news web sites let you simply hide the sports section. Can Apple News do this? Nope. You're getting sports whether you like it or not. Here's the range of configuration options for the Mac version of the app. Just four of them. OK I know Apple sweats the small stuff. They aren't Microsoft or Linux, firing 1000 config options at you. But this is absurd.
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At the top is the aforementioned option to hide news sources I've deactivated – that also kills much of the News app functionality. I'm pretty sure they made this so obtuse for licensing reasons. The corporations they're signed-up with just didn't like users having the power to hide their content, so Apple created a messy compromise that still showed hidden content.

Below that is what feels like a legal requirement from Apple. Scratching their itch...

Third is sports!

Fourth is a bizarro game centre option. What?! Again, Apple scratching their itch to encourage more use of their ecosystem. That was considered so important that it was developed over, say, a basic config option to increase font sizes globally. Who does Apple care about here?

No history​

EDIT: There is, in fact, a history list of articles you've viewed. It's just hidden away. You have to tap the Following option. Yes, that's right.

There's no way to search the history, perhaps because the list flows in from the cloud as you scroll (so isn't all in memory when you first look at it). You can tap and hold on each entry, though, to get useful options like saving it, or sharing it.

Sometimes I tell my wife about an article having read it the previous day, and she asks me to share it with her. But there's no history within News. I can't find it without manually searching. True, if you go in to the app after a break it will highlight the most recent news story you were reading. But you can't get it to show you all the stories you viewed, say, yesterday.

This is super simple. I mean, a teenager designing a news app as part of their computer science school qualification would have that on their feature list.

Useless tables of content​

If you open one of your subscribed magazines and look at the index/table of contents, it's just headlines. No descriptions. Sometimes you get author names beneath.
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For example, let's look at the last article in that screenshot. It's about saving lives from synthetic opioids. OK, I might be interested. Is that about government/political action? Is it about care teams on the ground assisting people? Is it a science article about how somebody's created a new compound that helps? I've no frickin' idea.

Again, I feel as if Apple deliberately leaves out descriptions to encourage consumption. I have to tap through to find out. I engage with the content in any event. Win for Apple! But please, why am I being manipulated like this? I'm the one paying for this service. I'm not the product being sold here. Or am I?

"Today" = days or even weeks old​

I've put this one at the end because it's not as bad as it used to be. But it's still an issue.

When you open News, you see the "Today" list of stories. That's stories from... well, today, right? Nope. Stories in that list can be days or even weeks old. OK, so it might still be be good content. But stories can move fast, and frankly anything over a few days old may well have developed beyond that original write-up.
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EDIT:​

See below for some comments below about the appalling ads we get served, which are basically the same as spam: "Women in your area are looking for men like you etc." Often with horrible AI slop images and copy. Is this really the best Apple can manage?

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"It'll get better"​

I know what you're going to say. Apple News is a relatively new app. It'll get better over time.

The Apple News app is 10 years old. And it was actually an app that Apple bought in from outside, it's actually even older.

Apple News+ is six years old.

These are not baby apps and services. They should be much better at this point. Imagine if Microsoft had launched Word and taken the same approach. 10 years after launch and it's still a basic text editor.

But this is another sin of modern Apple, as well as launching basic stripped down apps like this.

They launch... and abandon.

Apple's developers are like school kids playing soccer. Soccer should be a strategic game where players keep their position on the pitch, and only deal with the ball when it comes their way. But on the school playing ground, it's basically 10 kids chasing a ball. They all want their heroic moment. They all think they're better than the other players. They all don't want to do the boring work, like maybe position themselves for a pass so they can actually score a goal.

And I think Apple's development culture is like this. Nobody wants the dull thankless work of improving existing apps. They want the hero work of doing the cool new stuff. They're chasing the ball. This is probably how Apple attracts the upcoming talent leaving college.

I'm just disheartened that Apple is so... well, crap at certain things. It could be so much better. All of the above is super simple. It would take a single developer maybe a week or two to implement, never mind a team. But Apple just has zero interest.
 
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not to mention I don't have to worry about seeing any ads.
OMG, I forgot to mention that.

Ads! And they're not even good quality ads for premium products. It's the awful base ads, that are literally like spam. I'm married but I get targeted by dating ads for "older women". It's horrible and creepy, with the horrible AI slop artwork, too.

1000s of ads telling me what to do with my pension, too. It seems Apple's ad dept knows one thing, which is that I'm middle-aged. I do turn off ad personalisation.

I think I've managed to block ads in News, however, by using an ad-blocking DNS. Some text ads still appear but I think I've got rid of the visual ads.
 
It's not going to get better at all. Apple software is by far, some of the worst software I have ever used. This goes way beyond the news app. All across the board, if the software comes from Apple, it's usually the worst in the industry. Look at what Apple did with Darksky. It's just appalling how poor Apple software is. They simply just don't care.

It's all about the money now. Nothing more.
 
It's not going to get better at all. Apple software is by far, some of the worst software I have ever used. This goes way beyond the news app. All across the board, if the software comes from Apple, it's usually the worst in the industry. Look at what Apple did with Darksky. It's just appalling how poor Apple software is. They simply just don't care.

It's all about the money now. Nothing more.

It's definitely the case that any new apps lean towards being very poor.

Even updates to established software.

For example, the new System Settings app in macOS is still very weak compared to what it replaced. When it launched it was missing functionality compared to the older app. It's better now, but it's still a confusing mess, and finding what you're looking for invariably requires use of the search functionality.

Apple applies the iPhone software design principles to EVERYTHING. Including Mac. That just doesn't work but Apple is hammering that square to make it circle no matter what. It's pure ideological dogma, but Apple can't see that. This is why I think Apple badly needs new blood at a senior level. At the moment it's a cabal of late-middle-aged men, and I think they've lost the plot. They missed AI, they jumped into AR/VR maybe a decade before it was ready, and as you say, the only real destination on their product road map is dollar signs.
 
I was initially extremely excited for the News App. Thought I'd finally get an Apple Books like experience with the news. What a disappointment that was when I first started reading. Even today some ads are 4-5 pages long because of glitches, or they're blaring and moving and bright while I'm trying to read the article. Yes, I can run an Ad Removing VPN but it's annoying to have to turn that on every time I want to read the news.

I am very disappointed with the News App. Pretty obvious they didn't even try, or it was such a $ losing venture no one was allowed to do anything with it. It is embarrassing how bad it is.
 
I have been an Apple computer user since the Apple II+ days. I've always loved Apple and their software. But for the last 5 years or more, I have been tolerating the poor quality of Apple software. What was once industry leading (by miles) is now so antiquated, so broken, so obviously not cared for, that I have just about lost any reason to stay with Apple. Windows is no better, but at least I'd be free from the pain of seeing Apple continually drive itself into the sewer.

I look back and see the begining of Apple's spiral into mediocrity when Aperture was discontinued. That software created an entire class of software that didnt exist before: Digital asset management. It took Adobe YEARS to catch up with Aperture. For god knows whatever reason, Apple just let Aperture languish and die. A company with hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in resources couldnt be bothered to keep one of their gems alive.

Unbelievable.
 
Windows is no better, but at least I'd be free from the pain of seeing Apple continually drive itself into the sewer.

I think many of us feel this way. For me it would probably be Linux. But I do warn you. You might've forgotten how rough and ready Windows and certainly Linux are. Windows 11 is around 50% Windows 7, plus a load of useless new crap on top. It's an utter mess. And Linux... Oh boy. The desktop experience is basically identical to what it was 10-20 years ago.

Ironically, it's the newest part of Apple's empire that keeps me here: the ecosystem. I appreciate the integration of all their services, and I like the privacy that comes with it. I'm just not prepared to hand my digital existence over to Google any more than I already do (just email and search engine).
 
I had Apple News+ when I had the Apple One subscription, but I would never actually pay for it.

I’m not going to write a wiki post but good job to the OP for doing that.

My main complaints were there was no effective way to block garbage news sources. That’s one of the OP’s complaints as well

The second was the formatting was really confusing. It didn’t seem like there was an easy way for me to get a brief rundown of what’s going on. Maybe with AI Apple will fix this.

Also most news sources are terrible so I’m paying money to have a bunch of terrible news sources aggregated into one app. I just can’t see how that makes any sense.

If Apple could make an app that could show me the news as in the 5 W’s without any opinion or propaganda attached, I would pay $20 a month. Unfortunately, I don’t even think Apple is capable or would want to do this.
 
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I have been an Apple computer user since the Apple II+ days. I've always loved Apple and their software. But for the last 5 years or more, I have been tolerating the poor quality of Apple software. What was once industry leading (by miles) is now so antiquated, so broken, so obviously not cared for, that I have just about lost any reason to stay with Apple. Windows is no better, but at least I'd be free from the pain of seeing Apple continually drive itself into the sewer.

I look back and see the begining of Apple's spiral into mediocrity when Aperture was discontinued. That software created an entire class of software that didnt exist before: Digital asset management. It took Adobe YEARS to catch up with Aperture. For god knows whatever reason, Apple just let Aperture languish and die. A company with hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars in resources couldnt be bothered to keep one of their gems alive.

Unbelievable.
I feel like this is being a little dramatic. I’m not saying some of the Apple software doesn’t need work but you also have to realize Apple is working on a smaller scale than Microsoft or Google.

I totally agree that good old Tim needs to dump a whole bunch of cash into fixing Apple’s operating systems and apps. It’s crazy how a multi trillion dollar company like Apple is so tight on the budget in this area. Of course that’s due to investors. If Apple actually did dump a whole bunch of cash into fixing its problems that means the next shareholder meeting would have bad news. You can’t have bad news with investors. Profits always have to go up. Even the general public would be critical because they would be saying oh my God look at Tim. He’s running the company into the ground by overspending. This causes Apple to be constrained into making very slow, but deliberate moves. They have to pick their battles and push other things off to the side. Why do you think Siri is so bad in 2025. Apples strategy so far has been to pretend to be working on the problem so the issue won’t attract too much attention. I have to say it’s worked so far. A lot of people think Siri is a joke, but it hasn’t received the negative attention it could have received.
 
Apple had the opportunity to elevate the news, to hold a higher standard, and to filter out the cheap, click-bait crap that plagues most news feeds because they crave ad dollars. When I visit CNN or CNBC, I'm actually embarrassed for them.

If anyone could afford to do it right, it was Apple. I think it started out okay, but it seems like most of what's being fed to me now is AI-driven clickbait. It feels like 15-20 years ago, when websites started gaming Google search results with SEO and the experience of using the internet became progressively worse for the majority of us.

Apple doesn't need scale. Any nitwit with an algorithm and an Amazon web services subscription can scale. Apple needs curation. Curation, like art, is a human endeavor. Humanity is in their DNA...it is right up Apple's alley...so I hope they can recover from this news fiasco, but the OP is right on.
 
I think many of us feel this way. For me it would probably be Linux. But I do warn you. You might've forgotten how rough and ready Windows and certainly Linux are. Windows 11 is around 50% Windows 7, plus a load of useless new crap on top. It's an utter mess. And Linux... Oh boy. The desktop experience is basically identical to what it was 10-20 years ago.
My desktop and my server is Linux Mint Cinnamon. It does work much like what I remember Windows 7 to be. But the point is it does work and very well. If they had it right 10 years ago then why change it just for the sake of change?

I have a 2010 Mac Pro that dual boots into either Linux or Mohave. Comparing Sonoma to Mohave is telling, Mohave is the better UI. Sequoia was a hot mess and I downgraded back to Sonoma on this M1 Air. I'll be taking my own sweet time trying out Tahoe, but I will give it fair shake probably next March. Then I may well be moving the M1 to Linux as well.

Windows 10 was not an improvement on 7, I missed 8 (IT flat refused to install "the abomination" at work) and I haven't tried 11.
 
I think a lot of it is Apple puts a team on developing (or buying) and releasing an app, they’ll squash some of the initial bugs and maybe roll out a few quality of life updates, but inevitably the people on that team get re-tasked to a different project with higher priority at that moment and Apple just plain loses the interest and desire to shift them back again. It’s like a kid with a new toy they play with a lot at first but end up bored with when something new and shiny comes along.
 
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My biggest beef with the Apple News app is that I sometimes do a deep dive into the "People Also Read" and "More From...." articles. When you've done that 10-12 times, the only way to get back to your main feed is to keep hitting the 'back' arrow at the top left of the screen over and over again. And occasionally it will go into a "loop" where it just cycles back and forth between one article and another unless you do a quick scroll down and then go back to hitting the 'back' arrow. There should be a one-touch way to get back to your main news feed and not have to sit there hitting the 'back' arrow repeatedly.
 
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I agree, it’s terrible. I dream of a news app where they take the design from assigning the action button and let me pick from JUST the publications I select. Clean and sleek like Apple claims to be
 
I don’t think apple even cares of user feedback. They give the minimal gold nugget to entice the user then frustrate said user to the end of the earth with non logical obstructions throughout their digital apple brand life

Watch - bloated software, too many functions, 💩 battery life. Strip back the glossy animations, make it as basic as poss but maintaining a slight edge over garmin.

Car play - just let us see ALL downloaded music on the screen & for the love all things holy STOP auto playing the first track in album starting with A. I can’t put up with my wife’s yoga music any longer!

Apple News - did the trial & never went back. Too many ads & forced content I wasn’t interested in.

Apple Music - never used. I prefer to download my music. I now use my astell & kern as my audio player which is night & day compared to iPhone.

Aperture was a great app but since App Store started going subscription model & adobe went that way I’ve turned my back on my digital editing days. I’ve adobe LR & PS sub for a year & hardly used them. Interface is impossible to use, & LR refuses to let me open a folder on my desktop saying I don’t have permission ! Wtf! My computer, my content, no other user profiles on Mac. If I have to do editing I fire up my Mac mini 2011 on LR6, it may be slow even with ssd & it doesn’t recognise my Sony a7iii but I can get around it.

Everything I used to do easily up to 2015 on my Mac nowadays seems to have blockers in place that just frustrate the hell out of me.

And don’t get me started on the truly awful predictive text on all Apple devices.

Tim Apple get your 💩 together & fix the software
 
Wow there’s a lot of negativity about Apple software here.

I agree with the OP that News is muddled, user experience is so bad that we don’t explore the many rich features. All of the points raised are valid.

I didn’t read it all but Recipes are virtually invisible.

As for all other software, still pretty magical !

I might make an exception for Journal, only because you have to press Edit before editing and can’t place photos inline. Small beans
 
It's definitely the case that any new apps lean towards being very poor.

Even updates to established software.

For example, the new System Settings app in macOS is still very weak compared to what it replaced. When it launched it was missing functionality compared to the older app. It's better now, but it's still a confusing mess, and finding what you're looking for invariably requires use of the search functionality.

Apple applies the iPhone software design principles to EVERYTHING. Including Mac. That just doesn't work but Apple is hammering that square to make it circle no matter what. It's pure ideological dogma, but Apple can't see that. This is why I think Apple badly needs new blood at a senior level. At the moment it's a cabal of late-middle-aged men, and I think they've lost the plot. They missed AI, they jumped into AR/VR maybe a decade before it was ready, and as you say, the only real destination on their product road map is dollar signs.
I wouldn't say that every Apple software is universally bad or industry's worst. I do use Apple's Logic, and that's still quite good. I used to use Final Cut X professionally, which feels a little neglected and gets new features only once in a while, but there's already more than basic functionality and what works well makes it imho worth it over the hoops it sometimes makes you jump through. A lot of other apple software is functional, something a...-backwards, but not as bad as competing OS's-Software. I do like iWork for it's simplicity, Garageband is great for a free DAW, iMovie not so much, Photos, Safari, Music, Calendar and Mail are "meh" - far from the best, but mostly functional, Shortcuts is still severely crippled and feels like something breaks every update - but something like Audio-Midi-setup is a godsend you won't find otherwise (and has been in MacOS at least since OSX launched).

But, as OP said.. they often launch and forget. Software and new features often feel half-finished and lacking in functions or even simple re-evaluation after the first launch. There are often good ideas there but they don't get developed until they are really functional or are mentioned once in a keynote and then never again talked about.

And they know about it - see ringtones in ios26, a function which every dumbphone from 2005 could do - but at first apple didn't do it, so they could sell their own ringtones, and even after the ringtone-business more or less vanished, they just didn't care until now, to throw their user's a bone after the AI debacle.

After all, it's the software that makes the hardware shine. And this has been in obvious decline for years. Function are no more easily discoverable, there's feature-creep and clutter, bugs are becoming more and more common, usability and productivity takes a hit as more and more functions require more and more taps/clicks - often unnecessary, sometimes just for eyecandy.

Apple is big and has a lot of momentum, but I wouldn't be too much surprised if the chickens will come home to roost eventually, if not soon. Everytime I look at screenshots from the iOS26 betas, I think to my self "That looks ugly, I kind of don't want to have this". It's probably not as bad and I'll get used to it, but it's the first time I've thought this about a upcoming UI from Apple.
 
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I lost all faith and desire for wanting to really integrate News+ into my life in 2021 when I found there were ads in it. No, not the printed ads in the publications - those are fine. Those crappy little text based “Over 40s can claim this free health check. click here” ads, occupying a tiny square in the middle of the article / interface (you know, the kind that Apple poked fun at Android tablets for in 2013 for being an incredibly poor use of screen space).

I have News+ as part of the highest tier family sharing Apple One, but if I could ever remove it to save money I would. The 2TB is the primary reason I’m on it. Unfortunately some of that monthly cost contributes towards it.
 
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It's not going to get better at all. Apple software is by far, some of the worst software I have ever used. This goes way beyond the news app. All across the board, if the software comes from Apple, it's usually the worst in the industry. Look at what Apple did with Darksky. It's just appalling how poor Apple software is. They simply just don't care.

It's all about the money now. Nothing more.

Logic is a fantastic piece of software and costs nothing compared to its value
 
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Apple applies the iPhone software design principles to EVERYTHING. Including Mac. That just doesn't work but Apple is hammering that square to make it circle no matter what. It's pure ideological dogma, but Apple can't see that. This is why I think Apple badly needs new blood at a senior level. At the moment it's a cabal of late-middle-aged men, and I think they've lost the plot. They missed AI, they jumped into AR/VR maybe a decade before it was ready, and as you say, the only real destination on their product road map is dollar signs.
This is exactly why I say a company unwilling cannibalise its own culture deserves to die, including big corporations like Apple. Things change, world change, everything change. Why culture is the thing that must not change? Even regime changes from time to time. Isn’t CEO and executives job to lead Apple to adapt? Yes Apple cares about investors but investors also need to adapt. If some investors don’t like what Apple is doing they can walk away. But no, same old people from the same old bygone era carrying all the burden and refuse to step down, including the entire board.
I’m sure when the inevitable Apple’s Nokia moment comes, lots of people will comment however they like discussing why Apple fell and the entire empire collapsed. But before that, if they refuse to cannibalise their culture and adapt, they will very likely lead the entire empire to their own demise.
 
All news apps share the font size problem. Don’t know why they can’t follow the web model and allow you to change the text size with your fingers. I read all my articles via the browser but you still run into sites like reddit and NYT that bothers you into using their app.
 
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