oh well, didn't plan on doing it, bought a macbook wednesday, was delivered yesterday, and the thing runs great and looks like brand new. even looks new on the bottom and that's where the problem comes into play. i wanted something old that i could toss around and not be too careful with and my macbook looks too good to do that kind of mess with. so i got a 1.33ghz ibook real cheap. this will be my first g4 (i've owned a few g3's in the past) ibook so i'm sure i will have some questions when it arrives. i already have two 1.25ghz iMacs so if i get the same type of performance from my ibook as those two i'll be well satisfied. it will be my "road apple". if i kill it or it gets lost or stolen then i won't be too bent out of shape.