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That’s the $2899 model?
Yes it's the $2,899 13" model. For what you're getting it's actually quite reasonable, I think they scale better at the higher price points than the 15" where I think they rob you with the margin on those upgrades XD
 
Does anyone know how much of jump the 13" base processor is compared to last years model?

I'm settled on the 13" Macbook Pro with Touch Bar, i'm just waiting until WWDC to order, that way all the reviews will be out and teardown of the "tweaked" keyboard. However i'm not sure which configuration to get, would the base model be enough?

  • 2.4GHz quad-core 8th‑generation Intel Core i5 processor, Turbo Boost up to 4.1GHz
  • Retina display with True Tone
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
  • 8GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
  • 512GB SSD storage
OR do i go all out and get

  • 2.8GHz quad-core 8th‑generation Intel Core i7 processor, Turbo Boost up to 4.7GHz
  • Retina display with True Tone
  • Touch Bar and Touch ID
  • Intel Iris Plus Graphics 655
  • 16GB 2133MHz LPDDR3 memory
  • 1TB SSD storage
My last Macbook Pro was the 2011 15" it was a great machine until it died late last year :(, i'm currently using my 2012 iMac at home and my 2017 iPad Pro as the portable.
 
Does anyone know how much of jump the 13" base processor is compared to last years model?

Its around 5-7% increase in turbo boost clocks. Basically, this year i5 will be slightly slower than last years i7. As I wrote in the other thread, the real-world performance increase will be under 5%.
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However i'm not sure which configuration to get, would the base model be enough?

Enough for what? For general computing the base model will be more then sufficient spec-wise for next 5 years. For 4K video editing instead, well, it will be able to do it, but there are better configs for that purpose. The difference between i5 and i7 is very small. Might make a difference for some people who can use the higher burst speed (e.g. programmers, data scientists — but depends on the exact profile). RAM: 16GB might be a good idea if you work with large datasets, if you are a normal everyday office user, 8GB is enough. And as to SSD size, you are the only person who knows your usage.
 
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Its around 5-7% increase in turbo boost clocks. Basically, this year i5 will be slightly slower than last years i7. As I wrote in the other thread, the real-world performance increase will be under 5%.

Thank you, yea i saw the reply from you after i had posted in this thread :rolleyes:

At the moment i think i'm going to go with the i5 base model. My usage probably won't see much difference with the i7 version.
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Its around 5-7% increase in turbo boost clocks. Basically, this year i5 will be slightly slower than last years i7. As I wrote in the other thread, the real-world performance increase will be under 5%.
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Enough for what? For general computing the base model will be more then sufficient spec-wise for next 5 years. For 4K video editing instead, well, it will be able to do it, but there are better configs for that purpose. The difference between i5 and i7 is very small. Might make a difference for some people who can use the higher burst speed (e.g. programmers, data scientists — but depends on the exact profile). RAM: 16GB might be a good idea if you work with large datasets, if you are a normal everyday office user, 8GB is enough. And as to SSD size, you are the only person who knows your usage.

Everyday usage mixed with some photo editing in Pixelmator Pro, but not very large files, more pictures taken on my iPhone X. A little video editing in iMovie (No 4K only 1080) occasionally. Other than that it's just writing in Pages and Final Draft, web browsing in Safari, listening to Apple Music and when it comes out i may play the odd game on Apple Arcade streaming service.

My current iMac 2012 has 16GB but i don't think it gets used (see screenshot) the Same with the 3TB Fusion drive i have.
 

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Or this girl.
Thanks. I am just sharing my excitement for my new MacBook Pro, when my previous one was a 2013 model.
I’m actually a Senior Programmer. I might edit a few home videos in iMovie, but as a programmer and tech girl geek, I appreciate the speed of this machine as much as the next guy (or girl).

Congrats. Other than the absence of a proper escape key, I think the new MBPs are excellent machines for programmers. (I still can't get used to not having a physical escape key to feel for vim, but nothing can be done about that)
 
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Or, you know, not every programmer uses vim, and thus it's much less of an issue for others than you personally feel it is.

There are actually a lot of people that favor macs because it’s Unix with a good GUI. It’s sad hearing people remapping their escape key to deal with this mess. It’s too bad these folks weren’t significant enough in number to be given consideration, compared to people that use their macs for emoji iMessages and Instagram.
 
the 13" has escape key right? not quite sure why everyone keeps saying this LOL!! what am I missing??

There are two models of the 13”. One with the touchbar, and one without. The one without it still has the row of function keys, which includes the ESC key. People mentioning not having an ESC key are referring to the touchbar model.

The one without touchbar has an older processor, along with other older bits inside compared to the model with touchbar.
 
Or you could choose to frame it as buying the best possible version of this design before we get a new one with a whole new set of issues. Glass half full imo ;)
This is actually one of the reasons I've been thinking about buying the 2019 MBP. I initially passed on buying a 2015 MBP to wait for the "new" 2016 models. I then waited to see what the 2017 models would be like and finally decided to backtrack and picked up a 2015 from the Apple refurbished store. As long as the latest MBP only had quad cores, I could justify keeping my 2015. Now however, with the faster 8 core, I'm really tempted to jump in and pick up a new 2019.
 
After a few months of issues with the 2018, kernel panics, garbled video, some keyboard issues I just got back from the apple store and they have agreed to bump me up to a 2019. It’s been 5 months, I didn’t expect this and it made my day.

I had a 2.9, Vega, 1tb,32gb - the model below is what they ordered to replace it.

Fantastic service, really after a lot of disappointment they have restored a little faith.
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Congrats. Other than the absence of a proper escape key, I think the new MBPs are excellent machines for programmers. (I still can't get used to not having a physical escape key to feel for vim, but nothing can be done about that)

I've fixed that by mapping the top left key to ESC. On a Belgian keyboard, it's back quote and tilde, which I remapped to bottom left. That key is a double of the \| key that sits next to the return key. So I'm not losing anything but gaining a physical ESC in the location where it used to be in the AT&T SVR4 days,.

This is actually one of the reasons I've been thinking about buying the 2019 MBP. I initially passed on buying a 2015 MBP to wait for the "new" 2016 models. I then waited to see what the 2017 models would be like and finally decided to backtrack and picked up a 2015 from the Apple refurbished store. As long as the latest MBP only had quad cores, I could justify keeping my 2015. Now however, with the faster 8 core, I'm really tempted to jump in and pick up a new 2019.

I was looking at the 2018 6 core with 32GB/1TB because I've started using VMs rather extensively. The 8 core only made it a better offering. I really like that Apple has immediately extended the exchange programme to the new models. Cynics can say what they want, but when the 2018 was launched and not included in the programme, there were lots of worried voices. Then problems started appearing and the worries became anger. With this move, Apple has not only tried to fix it again but reassured people as well. It's really the best MBP offering in years.
 
It has looked the same for years
just because its a 2016 design doesnt mean that it doesn't look extremely good and up to date...
These "newer" designs are the best MacBook Pros ever made imo. Apple may end up making the refresh looking worse...
 
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I keep going back and forth too, but what's ultimately stopping me is I think the Touchpad is awful and I refuse to pay more to be forced to use it. Hopefully they get rid of it on whatever the new design is next year, or at least release a 2019 model without it.
 
There are two models of the 13”. One with the touchbar, and one without. The one without it still has the row of function keys, which includes the ESC key. People mentioning not having an ESC key are referring to the touchbar model.

The one without touchbar has an older processor, along with other older bits inside compared to the model with touchbar.

apparently the wireless is slower too
 
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