Just got the MacBook

Discussion in 'MacBook' started by PKoz, Apr 11, 2018.

  1. PKoz macrumors member

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    I have wanted one of these since they first hit. I thought about waiting a little longer for a potential 3rd gen but decided to for it. I decided not to bump up the CPU, opting for a default Core M3 1.2 GHz. I did add 16GBs of RAM though. My thoughts on this are that it would be a purely personal computer for me. Meaning I will not install MS Office or my work email accounts. I will not add the Adobe suite at all. Instead, I just want this to be for me.

    So I am only using the built-in Pages, Numbers, and Keynote. I added Affinity Photo and Designer. I like PDF Expert from the iPad so that got added. And I have a few OMNI apps which I also added. I'm letting iCloud optimize the storage. Without my work crap all over it, I find even the 256 GB SSD to be plenty.

    For my personal uses, which is mostly using it for personal learning, I find it perfect. I wanted the lightest possible and this is very light-weight. So far I don't notice any speed issues at all. I'm going to keep it simple and keep the apps modern.
     
  2. HKDesign macrumors newbie

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    Yes they are great machines. Just curious about how you will integrate your iPad usage with the MacBook .? What size iPad do you currently have and would you travel with it or just take the new MacBook.?
     
  3. EugW macrumors 68030

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    That's exactly the model I got, and if the storage is sufficient, the m3 is the best bang for the buck.

    https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...uns-of-cinebench.2073415/page-2#post-25271927

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    The 2017 m3 definitely holds its own against the i5 and i7, in repeated Cinebench benchmarks - translating to sustained load over about half an hour. (The above graph has the m3 on a wood table vs a stone counter.)

    Don't quote me on this, but I don't expect the Macbook to be updated significantly any time soon (unless you're talking about a possible 13" model).
     
  4. adamfozzy macrumors member

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    I just got one too, albeit the 8gb version as got £370 off retail price. Over the moon with it, best apple device I have purchased for quite a few years. I am coming from an iPad as my primary device and tried MacBook Pro late last year but that was a little too heavy and there were a few quality control issues. This is perfect.
     
  5. PKoz thread starter macrumors member

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    The iPad is so freaking awesome right now. I have the 10.5" Pro. The pencil is the best stylus I have ever used. That really high screen refresh makes all the difference in the world. Affinity Designer is being developed for the iPad right now. Once that hits I will be able to draw on the iPad in Affinity Designer and then incorporate that into my Pages and Notes. the iPad is getting closer and closer to being everything I need. It's almost there, but not quite there. I find the Mac less tedious for doing things that require a lot of moving things around. But I love the pencil on the iPad. I also like the idea of an all glass screen-based keyboard. We're in a time when it's difficult to choose one device over the other. For now, I like both.

    There are tons of apps I like better on the iPad, too. I'd rather use the YouTube app on the iPad than the browser to watch YouTube videos for example. It's not even close. I had the browser method and love the app. The iPad is so excellent for things like taking notes all day and always being on and available. I'd rather use Numbers on the Mac than the iPad though. So it really depends. I think the #1 thing on the iPad Pro for me is that pencil. I think Affinity is really doing amazing things by letting us use it on both the iPad and the MacBook. Combine that with iCloud being the universal file system between the two devices and it gets really interesting.

    There is one more thing I want though. Believe it or not, I bought this cheap $40 light panel. It's basically a 21st-century version of a light table. Plug it into USB and it powers the device. Put a piece of paper on it with some art, then another sheet on top of that and start tracing it by hand. But... I'd like to do something along those lines with the pencil and have the trace go into Affinity Designer.

    Something else that sounds interesting is that when learning a new language with a different alphabet you will want to learn to write. I like the idea of having a book which allows you to hear the words you see in the text in the book. It would be huge if you could then use the pencil to trace the characters and learn to hand write by tracing on display over and over again like a workbook. All of this could be done in a book, designed in Pages and published as an interactive book.

    Right now I see a lot of potential for the iPad with pencil creating illustrations and sharing those in the iCloud file system and then being directly incorporated into Pages and Notes. This could be a really streamlined pipeline for creative learning. Learning to draw and paint is one aspect. Learning a new language both spoken and written is another.
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    I read a thread here on MacRumors before deciding what MacBook to buy. I was going to go for the core i7 until I read the thread. It didn't appear to have a lot of bang for the buck on the i7. I would have liked to be able to buy 512 GB of SSD. But once I decided that this shouldn't become yet another computer with my work files I quickly realized 256 would be plenty in that scenario. If you get info on the Adobe apps one at a time you see they are all HUGE. Affinity apps are much smaller. I don't like the Adobe apps on the iPad. Actually, I'm not a fan of Adobe these days. I thought Pixelmator was going to challenge Adobe but it never did it for me. Affinity is much better in my opinion. Having the same app on both is going to be huge.

    I didn't know what to expect for speed. This machine went well beyond my expectations.
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    I have a 13" Pro that I bought for office use. I was carrying both that and the iPad but then wanted to carry only the iPad. Got a nice Waterfield case for the iPad Pro and that worked pretty well. I wish the smart keyboard cover was backlit. There was a web page where I couldn't access the audio on the site. It is a learning site. I talked to the site admin and they made a quick test page for me which does work on the iPad. They are working on updating it to make it more friendly for mobile devices. I like the touch bar a lot. Like you I wanted the thinnest lightest possible and decided to give this a shot. I'm also over the top. It has already gone well beyond my expectations. For a 1.2 GHz machine, it feels totally fine. I'm not really running any apps that would stress a CPU, so...
     
  6. xxnoelziexx macrumors regular

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    I purchased at 1.2 2017 model in space grey today for £750 :)still sealed from the Bay. I did buy one in 2015 but performance was very hit which so eventually returned it few days later. Ended up buying a 13 air i7 8GB, 256gb, 2015 which has been great. Sold that to a friend for £700 so as soon as this came up I snapped it up. Even being £50 out of pocket I feel is justified.
     
  7. PKoz thread starter macrumors member

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    I lot of memory can help speed things up. You don't want to choke the system into using paging for memory. I would go for more memory. Honestly, I would have gone for more SSD storage as well, but Apple likes to prevent that unless I also take the more expensive processor. I would like to see more control over iCloud storage going forward. This machine is working so well for me right now. I'm still in awe of how well this 1.2 GHz M3 is running everything. I've kept off the old bloated apps from Microsoft and Adobe. My thinking is to stick to modern apps written recently. Word has become a behemoth.
     
  8. xxnoelziexx macrumors regular

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    My main machine is a iMac i7 with 32gb ram which does the heavy lifting. 256gb is plenty for me on the move the same with 8gb. Don't use iCloud for anything all my storage and photos are uploaded to Google. So far I have no complaints about the base model.
     
  9. PKoz thread starter macrumors member

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    These newer machines are super nice. I came from 2011 MacBook Pro 15". When I bought it I felt like it was a boat anchor. I never took it anywhere. Now my laptop is thinner than just the lid of many of the laptops out there. It's incredible.
     
  10. Dave245 macrumors 603

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    Sounds like you really like your new MacBook :) personally i'm waiting until WWDC to see if Apple announce a 13" version of the MacBook, i think another size would go well (the Air had a 11" and 13" originally). I'm currently using a 2011 MacBook Pro 15" so i'm in need of an upgrade at some point.
     
  11. TheSkywalker77, Apr 16, 2018
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    Eventually I'm going to upgrade my 2008 MacBook to something new. :p

    I'll take this thread into consideration when I'm looking for a new computer.
     
  12. Dave245 macrumors 603

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    the year 200, is that the stone tablet version? ;):)
     
  13. TheSkywalker77 macrumors 6502

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    Shoot typo lol. That response did make me laugh though. :p
     
  14. adamfozzy macrumors member

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    I was going to do the same but I got my 2017 MacBook for such as unbelievable price last week, it was impossible to turn down and I'm over the moon with it. I will be intrigued to see what they do at WWDC. I think the only thing that would make me upgrade is if they put a 13 inch display in the current 12 inch MacBook dimensions. I don't think thats likely though.
     
  15. Dave245 macrumors 603

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    The rumours are a little murky at the moment, there is going to be a 13” at some point BUT some are saying it will be an update to the Air (adding a Retina display) while others are saying it will be a 13” version of the Macbook.

    Personally I would like to see a bigger version of the MacBook, 13” that would maybe be the same price as the current MacBook while current 12” is then reduced in price (maybe to around $999). Whether any of this will happen at WWDC is a guess, while they did upstate products at last years WWDC, it’s not something they do every year.
     
  16. adamfozzy macrumors member

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    Agreed. They have though updated the MacBook 12 each of the 3 years since 2015 so it may get something. My only gripe with it is the lousy FaceTime camera but not used it yet so its not a biggy. I certainly wouldn't want anything bigger because I am coming from using an iPad as my primary device so portability was my main reason for purchase.
     
  17. EugW macrumors 68030

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    Indoors in low light the FaceTime camera is almost unusable. The 480p isn’t the main problem. The low light quality is the problem. However, it hasn’t been a big deal for me because I just use my iPhone anyway.

    I wonder what aperture the MacBook FaceTime camera has. It’s f/2.2 on my iPhone 7 Plus with 1080p FaceTime camera, but probably also with more sensitive pixels as well.
     
  18. Dave245 macrumors 603

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    I don't know why they haven't put a much better FaceTime camera inside the MacBook, is the MacBook aimed more at the general consumer? it's not like the general consumer is going to be making conference calls, the MacBook Pro yes.
     
  19. EugW macrumors 68030

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    98% of the time I do FaceTime, it is to talk to my kids. In fact, I do FaceTime the most on business trips... again to talk to my kids. A good FaceTime camera is a great feature for general consumers and business users alike.
     
  20. Dave245 macrumors 603

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    I stand corrected :) I’ve never used the ones on my iMac or MacBook Pro and I’ve had them for a few years now :eek:
     
  21. adamfozzy macrumors member

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    I am starting to think the MacBook is very underrated, both by Apple and the tech world. Virtually every online comparison I read between base MacBook and MacBook Pro comes out with the Pro on top. Having used it for the last week, it has been one my best purchases I've made and is far superior than the MacBook Pro for my needs. Portability seems underrated by Apple; the 11 inch MacBook Air plus the iPad mini, smaller phones are going out. Will the MacBook go the same way?
     
  22. Dave245 macrumors 603

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    The MacBook is more aimed at the general consumer I think where as the Pro isn’t. I think Apple could add a 13” version and make the current 12" MacBook replace the Air OR they add the 13" version and remove the current one from the lineup.
     
  23. adamfozzy macrumors member

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    But Apple are also recommending the Pro to general consumers, many of whom buy it when they will only use a fraction of processing power.
     
  24. Dave245 macrumors 603

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    Are they? from what I’ve seen it’s aimed more at the professional side.
     
  25. PKoz thread starter macrumors member

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    It is a huge difference from 2011. Both the 2017 13" MacBook Pro and the 12" MacBook are awesome. The touch bar is really cool. I like them both very much but the 12" really nails it. It's so small and light. I would love to see Apple move to ARM but what they have already accomplished with the MacBook is really good.

    I like ARM, like the iPad, because you never really turn it off. I'd like to see that but with a Mac. Hoping we are getting there. ARM-based machines are going to be spectacular.
     

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