Just need to vent about my iphone

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by Kdawg1989, Oct 15, 2017.

  1. Kdawg1989 macrumors newbie

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    ever since iOS 11 my iPhone 6s Plus has

    Rotation issues, it will lock itself to the side and won’t flip back.

    Crap battery life.

    Safari issues where safari just stops working as if I didn’t have an internet connection.. everything else functions normally.

    Attempted a complete hard reset (Dfe mode)? Or what ever it’s called via iTunes. Issues are still all there.

    Every year I say this is the year I will try a new phone (android) but between my 4 iPads, 2 Apple watches, air pods and two Apple TVs and all my purchased music I am so invested in the eco system it is hard. And I know I will rough this piece of crap phone out for another year before I end up buying an iPhone XS. Tired of the direction Tim Cook has been taking their OS


    /end rant
     
  2. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I don't disagree that iOS 11 has been stellar. But do you think you would have better experiences using a different operating platform? And ultimately leaving behind the quality of the product from Apple just because of iOS 11? The way I see it, Apple isn't perfect and neither is their software. But They continually release updates to rectify the issues that some are experiencing, in which we receive iOS updates more regularly than you would with other competitors.
     
  3. Aibocyrus macrumors 6502a

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    If you do the DFU restore, you MUST set it up as a new phone. You can NOT restore it from a backup as this will just put the issues right back on the device.
     
  4. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    If Apple's ecosystem is the main reason for stopping you from switching to a device you believe would be better, I would suggest weaning youself.

    Begin looking into third party services to replace Apple's services and engage in them over time. You'll come to find that while some of them do not work quite as well as Apple's services, some actually work better or at least do the job.

    Google Contacts, Google Photos, Box, Dropbox, etc, etc. There are things out there and believe it or not Apple actually supports them on the iPhone. So it's not like by finding a third party service Apple prevents you from using it instead of it's service.

    I use Google Contacts and Google Play Music. It means I get my contacts on any device, not just an iPhone. I can stream my music on any device, not just an iPhone using the Music or iTunes app.

    In short, with the exception of iMessage I don't use Apple's services. Because I am not dependent on Apple I could switch at any time. That's because I choose to not be dependent on Apple's services. I don't like being locked in and pushed around, even if the cage is a very nice one.

    And with iMessage I don't have a problem going back to SMS. The number of people I communicate with via iMessage can be counted on one hand, while I end up communicating via SMS with most of my contacts - including some who DO use iMessage.

    Just my advice if this is really starting to bug you.
     
  5. m4v3r1ck macrumors 68020

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    This is what I call a GREAT feedback post, thanks for sharing your insights, suggestions and alternatives for all the Apple no-goodies!

    Cheers
     
  6. macfacts macrumors 68040

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    Seperate the apps from the OS, what is new in iOS 11? A lot of the updates are just the apps. Users care about app updates, not the kernel updates nor system library updates.

    Apps get regular updates on the Play store too. Apps that get updated in the Play store include updates to the keyboard, home screen launcher, text to speech files, lock screen, instant messaging apps.

    Android lets you pick and choose the best apps you want as default. It is like building a custom gaming PC vs a pre-built, locked down gaming PC.
     
  7. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    There is not a lot new In iOS 11, it's more of a lateral grade build off iOS 10. But I think it comes down to strictly preference what somebody wants out of each platform. If somebody's been subjected to iOS for so long, it's very difficult to walk away from, because we have to assume they have multiple products in Apples ecosystem. That's what most seem to struggle with in general. But that's not to say that android is not a good platform, because it is.
     
  8. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    This has always been what I find odd here. People seem willing to go all in with a product to the point where even if abandoning the product is better for them they are caught and unable to extricate themselves without some difficulty.

    I'm certainly loyal to some companies, sometimes to a fault, but I don't like being held hostage because of a product or a service. This is not only true with Apple for me, but with other companies. Cable service, phone carrier, grocery stores, etc.

    Apple certainly makes their services attractive and had they worked with my devices way back in 2012 I might have been caught in the same net. But I was forced to find alternatives.

    Those alternatives are not necessarily as good as or better than what Apple offers but they are an alternative to finding yourself locked in.
     
  9. Diorama macrumors 6502a

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    My 6s+ has a new rotation issue with ios11 but only in YouTube for some reason, and it’s only happened 3 or 4 times.
    I do of course still have the old rotation issue that I’ve had since ios8.
     
  10. Kdawg1989 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thank you for all the supportive feed back. I tried to make my post least Apple Bashing as possible as of course I must love their products with exception being a Mac or laptop as I own multiple of most.

    @ DFU mode. Yes I did do a completely fresh install, no backups. I took pictures of how all my apps where all laid out so I could install them all fresh.

    @ eco system. I could give up all my iTunes music. Basically the biggest thing holding me back from making the switch is iMessage. All of my immediate family.. mom/dad brother.. all live in Sweden, with myself in Canada. And I would be forced to lose the conscience of communication with them as they are also heavily invested with their iPhones. I would not want to make them all install alternative apps just to talk with me.
     
  11. aetherpeak Suspended

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    A DFU won't fix issues inherent to the OS itself.

    iOS 11 is a buggy mess that should still be in beta. When droves of people have the same issues, it's not a matter of "No, it's your fault for doing something, you should do a total DFU restore!", it's a matter of lousy software that was pushed out too early.
     
  12. Tallfish0919 macrumors member

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    I have come up with a routine on how to properly restore devices so there are no bugs on iOS 11.

    1. Download 3utools
    2. Delete “profile,secure and text input” from your Iphone under iCloud storage
    3. Reset device
    4. Put device into dfu mode
    5. Open 3utools
    6. Pro Flash the device with the latest Ipsw, “make you turn off reserve baseband features on the right hand side before you flash” and don’t activate the phone from within the app.
    7. When finished “setup as new” and wait 30 minutes while the phone indexes.

    This works every time and I have all day battery life on an iPhone 6s Plus with 80% battery capacity left.
     
  13. aetherpeak Suspended

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    See guys? No big deal. Just follow these seven excessive steps to make your $1000 phone work as advertised. No big deal.
     
  14. Tallfish0919 macrumors member

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    Haha right. Every time I restored with 12.7 ITunes I keep getting data migration errors, weird bugs and what not. So I tried this out lol
     
  15. aetherpeak Suspended

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    Hey, kudos to you for taking the time to not only figure it out, but post it too. Personally, I think it's ridiculous to *need* to take a bunch of steps like this, but enough effort can sort out a lot with iOS and macOS lately.
     
  16. 1rottenapple macrumors 68020

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    It’s the buggiest iPhone iOS that’s not a beta. I’ve been an iPhone user since the first model and it’s horrible. I wonder if apple is spreading it self to thin.

    I lm having signal issues and rotation issues and am freezing issues. It’s ridiculous.
     
  17. Kdawg1989 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Oh yes, I forgot to mention the random total phone lockup’s
     
  18. 1rottenapple macrumors 68020

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    the 11.0.1 was the worst I had to restart every few hours.
     
  19. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    That's not exactly accurate. iOS releases the same time every single year (Most versions). That doesn't make it "too early" when the previous versions of iOS have released during the same timeframe. It's just this version of iOS has not had a very good reception, at least based on various reports.
     
  20. DNichter macrumors G3

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  21. eyoungren macrumors Core

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    Hmmmm…wasn't there one release, iOS 8 I think, where Apple had to revoke the signing of an update because it killed cellular?

    Also, in 2015 I got a replacement 6+ for the price of my cracked screen because Apple had just launched iOS 9 and the genius couldn't get my phone to boot after a restore. The reason given to me was that Apple was having serious issues with the launch of iOS 9.

    I don't recall iOS 10 having much of an issue though.
     
  22. Relentless Power, Oct 16, 2017
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    Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I already established iOS isn't perfect previously in this thread and nor is that the point behind my Post your quoting. IOS 12, 13, 14, etc won't be perfect either and you will have those chastising concerns on a tech forum, because that's where discussion Thrives the most with imperfections with each version. Not to mention, it's usually the negatives discussed more often, then praising the positives about iOS.

    (And your iOS 9 example, I never has issues at all when on any of my devices with that version.)

    However, revisiting the quote stated by the member I quoted:

    "it's a matter of lousy software that was pushed out too early."

    My point is, that poster commented on iOS being "Pushed" to early. iOS traditionally releases the same time every year, so it's negated when it's when it was said it was "To early" when it's not if it releases the same time accordingly. Now, if a specific version of iOS has issues being reported, that doesn't make it early or premature, it makes it a lackadaisical and apathetic release. Significant difference.


    Lastly, iOS 11 has 47% adoption rate according to reports last week. iOS sometimes Can appear a bigger issue on a tech forum then it is in the real world. I'm not saying iOS 11 was Apples best release, because it likely wasn't. But on a tech form, it's vastly more a problem for many, then it is in the real world for every day iPhone consumers that likely have no issue for the millions who have downloaded it. I have no metric for my analogy, but I can at least use myself for example, which I have occurred no inconsistencies.
     
  23. sdwaltz macrumors 6502a

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    iOS 11 certainly feels the least "ready" of all the iOS GM's over the years, but I've found it to be highly stable.

    As others have said, restore the phone as new and see if you get some positive results.
     
  24. barkomatic macrumors 601

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    I also had serious problems with my 6s Plus whereby it frequently froze up and rebooted itself. I tried re-starting and restoring as a new iPhone several times but the problem persists. I took it to a genius at the Apple store who claimed there were no hardware faults and did not replace the iPhone. Shortly after that, my Apple Care ran out.

    The whole experience led me to purchase a Note 8 while I decide whether to move forward with an iPhone X. I have weaned myself off of and found alternatives for Apple services and some of them actually work better--others not so much. I'm glad that I have built an infrastructure and established processes on Android so that I'm not so beholden to Apple. For all it's faults, Google at least makes most of their services work in iOS as well and rarely tries to lock you in like Apple does.

    iMessage is a big pain point however and since most of my friends are on iPhones it's annoying to them. I've messaged people on Facebook Messenger which mitigates the problem somewhat -- because even most iPhone users have Facebook and Messenger installed. Perhaps your family could message you this way OP?

    As far as hardware, the Note 8 is superb and modern in design and the screen is the best on the market right now. It really makes the iPhone 8 look very dated. There are other Android phones of high quality as well. On Apple, you've got to go up to the iPhone X to get anything significantly different and new.
     
  25. FunkyTang macrumors 6502a

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    Why did all of you update to iOS 11 so soon? What feature(s) did you need to put yourself through this Gamma testing hell?

    Of course my 6s is buttery smooth with awesome battery life since it's on 9.3.5
     

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