I'm glad you're enjoying your MBA! I also ordered the 10th gen MBP 13, but ended up canceling the order before it shipped. For my usage there hasn't been a task the MBA (i5/8/512) hasn't flown through, and post heat sink mod(s), it now runs cool and silent. With the base 16" MBP on sale for $2099 I strongly considered going that route for the bigger screen and better speakers but with a desktop PC at home I simply don't need the added power.
is it silent most of the time ?
is it running hot ?
I am currently selling my MBP in order to get the new MBA, still hesitating between configurations, but there is a good chance i'd get the i5/16/256
Maybe it’s the 16gb ram that does the trick? I get the impression that most that are complaining about overheating issues have base config.
May I ask you why you do not recommend an ARM based macbook? Since I am not a technician I would like to understand a bit more: to wait for the new arm or get the actual mba...With ARM MacBooks coming next year (which I don’t want), I have been looking closer at MBP vs MBA. I don’t want a touch bar, and I want a computer that will last for a few years. I do mainly office work and logging in remotely via Citrix, the MBA model you describe is probably all I need.
Shouldn't be any effect. At least I can't fathom what mechanism might cause such an effect. How are you thinking that'd work?
If I had to guess I'd suggest that those choosing the upgraded RAM may tend to be more experienced/knowledgeable users, and thus know to expect an indexing load during the first couple days, know what actions reasonably cause sustained CPU loading (and thus don't see it as an issue when it occurs, because it's expected), and/or know what to look for when there's a rogue process hogging CPU.
The latter actually happened to me with my i5 MBA the first day. Fan was going crazy, system was definitely warm -- found that the daemon syncing to my Synology NAS had gone whacko and was using all the CPU it could get. I reset the sync setup and it went back to normal. Had the same happened to someone with a different background I can see how they might blame the MBA - when in fact the issue was third party software needing to be reset.
well, for one, lesser probability of having to continually swap between real and virtual ram. I can imagine that virtual ram (flash) generates more heat and maybe forces the cpu to work harder.
May I ask you why you do not recommend an ARM based macbook? Since I am not a technician I would like to understand a bit more: to wait for the new arm or get the actual mba...
With ARM MacBooks coming next year (which I don’t want), I have been looking closer at MBP vs MBA. I don’t want a touch bar, and I want a computer that will last for a few years. I do mainly office work and logging in remotely via Citrix, the MBA model you describe is probably all I need.
Thanks for the impressions. My 2011 11" MBA with 4GB RAM is in desperate need of an upgrade. Fans go crazy just by having a few MacRumors tabs open in Safari (I think it's the ads). Fans also go crazy when I'm watching YT videos. Slack in browser is slow.
I'm wondering if I should hold out for the Arm models or upgrade now and wait for the Arm stuff to improve. I had my PowerBook 12" for 7 years before upgrading to this MBA, which is nearly 9 years old now. I'm worried that if I get an Intel one now, that it won't last as long because Apple is moving to Arm. Yes, there will be universal apps, but for how long? Can I expect Universal apps to keep coming after 5 years?
My i5 MBA is silent almost all the time - only hear the fan at times I'd expect to hear it from pushing the CPU with a heavy load in Lightroom processing a batch of photos.
Similarly it runs cool. Just checked bottom of the case is 85F, palm rests are 78F, metal above F6 key 89F.
I've not done any modifications.
I'm wondering what you're using to test the temperature at different parts of the laptop?
I had an i5/8gb/512gb air & it was close to 99C when i tested it using intel power gadget. Was afraid it running too hot.
Returned it for the 10th gen pro but i'm thinking if i should get the i5/16gb/512gb air instead as it is significantly cheaper
That’s exactly what I started with, a 10th gen MBP and swapped it with the i5/16/256 MBA, couldn’t be happier and also saved a significant amount.