Just returned my iPhone 7

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by kre62, Sep 17, 2016.

  1. kre62, Sep 17, 2016
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2016

    kre62 macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010
    After just 18 hours and 2 different iPhone 7's I have just returned the 7 and gone back to the 6S.

    As of right now, the 7 is not a superior phone to the 6S in my opinion, for the following reasons:

    -Yellow screens. This is a problem every year when they change the display. The good screens will come back in a few months. I think this has something to do with the manufacturing process of IPS displays. A residue is deposited for the first few million. In a month or so, the clear blue screens will return. This isn't glue, intentional, more correct, or any other BS reason we hear every year. Its a defect of the manufacturing process. 2 iPhone 7's I got both had vastly inferior screens to my 6S, even after color profile/tint correction. Contrast, clarity, and brightness all worse than the 6S.

    -No noticeable speed increases. I put the phones next to each other and tried my hardest to make the 7 run faster. It didn't. In some cases web pages loaded faster on the 6S. Plus the intentional delay after clicking the home button that was introduced in the 7 makes it feel slower and laggier.

    -Marginal at best camera improvements

    -Weird home button that doesn't work unless pressed with bare skin (no more gloves).

    -Legitimate concerns about the lack of sapphire (lower quality materials)

    And for all this what do you get in return?

    -No headphone jack.

    No thanks, Apple

    NOTE: Many have questioned the yellow screen point I made, and here are my final thoughts on that:

    Final thoughts on the matter:

    It's clear that many dont want to think critically and hold Apple accountable in justification of their yellow screens. Thats fine but let me present one more argument for you.

    Many have argued that Apple is moving to a warmer temp, its intentional and more correct. To those people, I ask this question: Is the phone in this reply a defect? Disregard the uniformity issue as thats a separate issue, keep this to color temp:


    As you can see, this phone has the same tint as the posters clear, blueish, iphone 6s. The mail icon, the music icon, all look beautiful and clear, and match the 6s. Whats more, the screen is clearly brighter than the 6s, as promised in the keynote.

    So is this guys screen a defect then? Since Apple is intentionally moving to warm screens? And if it is a defect, then why does this defective screen have the greater brightness levels promised in the keynote?

    In the meantime, the yellow screens have now been measured with light meters and have shown to be less bright than the 6s. Theres entire threads on the lack of brightness and some are calling it brightness-gate.

    So you're telling me that the correct screen looks a lot worse/different than last years screen AND has lower brightness by design, and any clear looking screens WITH the promised increased brightness are the defects?

    Yeah, I'm not buying it. But if you enjoy your dim yellow screen, you should totally keep it.
  2. iphone1105 macrumors 68020


    Oct 8, 2009
  3. Macnificant macrumors 6502a

    Feb 26, 2008
    no headphone jack is a plus, its 2016 get with the times

    where you disappointed the wasn't a rotary dial?
  4. stormedblue macrumors member

    Sep 9, 2016
    Wow people are so mean on this board god forbid someone does not like their beloved iphones...

    OP thanks for sharing your input, I however welcome reading cons and pros.
  5. swamyg1 macrumors regular

    Dec 11, 2007
    I welcome your input as well. I'm wondering if I should consider keeping my 6s... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
  6. kre62 thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010
    I may get another 7 when the good screens return, but you're kidding yourself if you think the screens shipping right now are in any way better than the 6S. These are the same low quality launch screens that ship every year. I've seen these screens a thousand times, on my 3GS, my 4S, my 5, my 5S, etc. My 6 and 6S were fine (though many got bad 6 screens, I got lucky that year I guess), but now we are back to bad launch screens. Sad.
  7. RedOrchestra Suspended

    Aug 13, 2012

    Yeah, guess you had absolutely no idea about that until after purchase, huh?
  8. kre62 thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010
    Yeah man, I'm back on the 6S and couldn't be happier. It feels smoother and faster. The artificial lag introduced on the 7 when you return to the home screen is completely unnecessary and random. That one can be fixed in software though so maybe itll get better.
  9. iphone1105 macrumors 68020


    Oct 8, 2009
    Who was mean to him?
  10. Tsepz macrumors 68020


    Jan 24, 2013
    Johannesburg, South Africa
    Most phones didn't have a 3.5mm headphone jack back in 2005.

  11. maxsix Suspended


    Jun 28, 2015
    Western Hemisphere
    I appreciate your honesty.

    One more confirmation of my suspicion, the iPhone 7 isn't a better choice than my reliable, efficient iPhone 6S Plus.
  12. stormedblue macrumors member

    Sep 9, 2016
    really? If that's how you talk to people on the daily basis and question that is not mean I feel sorry for you. Have a good day.
  13. ninjaplz macrumors member

    Sep 13, 2013
  14. Mike84 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 23, 2010
    OP, I am going to keep my iPhone 7, but I think the "yellow screen" you are referring to are not yellow due to a manufacturing issue. Instead, I believe it is two things: 1. They are a lot warmer than previous iPhone screens (Apple stated this), and 2. the iPhone 7 isn't as bright as the 6s and 6. The latter, to me, is the bigger issue and one that perhaps lends itself to this whole 'yellow tint" theory. I am disappointed the iPhone 7 is not brighter and i am hoping that Apple fixes it with a software update.

    Aside from the foregoing, I am going to hold onto my iPhone 7 because it was a 'slight' upgrade from my iPhone 6 and also because I got it in a color different from my iPhone 6 and I like it. Time will tell.

    Good luck with the 6s and enjoy it.
  15. Xprmntr macrumors regular


    Nov 18, 2015
    Never heard about the launch screen issue, didn't notice on my launch 5 or launch iPad Pro etc

    I'll wait for my jb 256 plus and give it some time-
  16. RedOrchestra Suspended

    Aug 13, 2012
    I'm glad you returned your 7 ... and you've again found joy in your life.
  17. kre62 thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010
    Yeah I live in SoCal so most days I dont either. But if I visit a colder climate or go snowboarding or any other use case where hands are covered then itd be nice to have the home button still work.

    I know its not a big thing, but for everything thats worse on the 7, it needs to compensate for it with something else that makes up for it. Im not seeing the 7 have anything that overcomes these little things.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 17, 2016 ---

    Thanks! Yeah I know I'm a demanding customer who wants what's advertised and I don't put up with mediocrity or bait and switching, so more than happy returning 2 7's.
  18. evorc macrumors 6502a


    Aug 24, 2011
    OCD at its finest. Glad you happy though. It's better than constantly returning the phone looking for that 'perfect' vivid blue inaccurate screen as far as calibration.
  19. kre62 thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010

    Im afraid you aren't correct. Every single year people claim its intentional. And every single year, after a month or so, the good screens return. Apple has made no statement that the warmer screen is intentional, nor will they. That myth, along with the glue drying, gets floated every year to calm people down. Yet every year we are comparing warm screens to last years cool blue screens so how is that possible if every year a warm screen is intentional and "more correct"?

    It's possible because after launch, the good screens return, and now we have something to compare next years yellow screens to.
  20. Daremo macrumors 68020


    Jul 3, 2007
    Gloves made to work with the screens now, work with the home button. Most people who use their phones in winter, have these gloves, and they are almost standard these days. This is non issue for most, really.
  21. medenblik macrumors regular


    Oct 26, 2014
    My 7plus screen is better than my 6S+. More vibrant

    And camera is way better taking pics/video on 7plus
  22. kre62 thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010
    LOL you're one of those "More Correct" guys huh. Then why is it that the vast majority of iphones have the clear "innacurate" display? It's only the launch phones that get the "More correct" screens every year. So I guess if you like it, stick to launch day phones. For everyone else, avoid if they've changed the panel. The 6S used the same display as the 6, so it had beautiful screens from day 1.
  23. Talkingtoaster macrumors regular


    Aug 19, 2014
    You have to expect a relatively high amount of fanboys considering its an Apple forum...
  24. Mike84 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 23, 2010
    I am sorry, but you are mistaken and that is a patently false statement. Apple on various occasions, including during the presentation of the iPhone 7, stated that the phone has a wider color gamut and the screen reflects that. They further stated that the colors will be warmer. In addition, your statement about the glue drying and all other myths associated with that, for the most part, have not been discussed in great details, advocated for, or pressed in the other threads concerning the yellow and bright screens in the iPhone 7. I think you may be getting a little bit ahead of yourself with what you are claiming.
  25. kre62 thread starter macrumors 68000

    Jul 12, 2010

    can you point to a statement saying in black and white that the screens will have warmer colors? THe wider gamut should not impact overall tint of the screen.

    BTW heres a nice article on the iphone 5 when it came out. Notice anything? And yet, most people ended up with clear iphone 5's. Weird. Notice the glue myth is strong in this one (and still false).


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