Just scored the deal of a lifetime on a 42mm Series 1 (maybe?)

[WarHeadz]

So here are the deets:

I found a black 42mm Series 1 (not a first gen S0, an actual Series 1) on ebay for $120. I checked the serial number pictured and it has AppleCare until October 2017, which means the watch is only 2 months old. There is no exterior physical damage but it's just showing the orange exclamation mark on the screen. The seller, who has a very high feedback score and a 15 year old ebay account, has promised that if i take it to the Apple Store they will most likely send it out to be replaced and I'll have a fully functional watch. If that doesn't happen, I can ship it back to the seller for a full refund and I have this in writing.

If all goes according to plan, I will have a fully functional new condition Series 1 Apple Watch for $120. Deal of a lifetime? I certainly hope so. I'll keep this thread updated as I go through the process of making it happen, the order has been placed and paid for today. Awaiting a tracking number, let's see what happens!

 

[CaptMarvel]

Good luck! However, I'm wondering why the seller is getting rid of it at such a low price...

 

[WarHeadz]

Good luck! However, I'm wondering why the seller is getting rid of it at such a low price...

They had about 3 of them on ebay in the same situation, they were all sold within 24 hours. I was on the fence but I figured I would take a chance given the seller's history and feedback score. The most I would lose is the cost of shipping back to them. Plus, if the seller decides to pull a fast one on me I have an email from them as proof that they said they would refund me if Apple doesn't replace it, and I paid through PayPal who usually always sides with the buyer in transaction disputes. I'm not too concerned about getting my money back, I just really hope I don't have to get my money back and that Apple replaces it. I'm going to make an appointment at my local Apple Store and just walk in there and be sugar sweet to the genius and hopefully they'll authorize a replacement.

 

[44267547]

So here are the deets:

I found a black 42mm Series 1 (not a first gen S0, an actual Series 1) on ebay for $120. I checked the serial number pictured and it has AppleCare until October 2017, which means the watch is only 2 months old. There is no exterior physical damage but it's just showing the orange exclamation mark on the screen. The seller, who has a very high feedback score and a 15 year old ebay account, has promised that if i take it to the Apple Store they will most likely send it out to be replaced and I'll have a fully functional watch. If that doesn't happen, I can ship it back to the seller for a full refund and I have this in writing.

If all goes according to plan, I will have a fully functional new condition Series 1 Apple Watch for $120. Deal of a lifetime? I certainly hope so. I'll keep this thread updated as I go through the process of making it happen, the order has been placed and paid for today. Awaiting a tracking number, let's see what happens!

Interesting. Sounds legitimate.

What caused the issue to begin with the Watch?

Did you confirm the Apple Care with Apple?

What other unannounced issues are possible?

I would at least verify what the issue may be first with Apple and ask what your options may be for repair status?

Let us know how it goes.

 

[Gav2k]

It's usually a bad update that causes it or it's crashed. If a force restart does not help then it's covered under warranty.

 

[44267547]

It's usually a bad update that causes it or it's crashed. If a force restart does not help then it's covered under warranty.

Thanks for explaining. Then perhaps this is a good deal for Warheadz. Curious to why the seller isn't taking the initiative to have it repaired for free.

 

[kylera]

Thanks for explaining. Then perhaps this is a good deal for Warheadz. Curious to why the seller isn't taking the initiative to have it repaired for free.

Maybe the seller doesn't see much use in the Apple Watch for him/herself, so decided to just get rid of them ASAP.

 

[44267547]

Maybe the seller doesn't see much use in the Apple Watch for him/herself, so decided to just get rid of them ASAP.

Agreed. Valid point.

 

[Dodgeman]

Nice pickup...
Just for fun can anyone guess how much I sold my First Gen AW SG Sport 42mm for with Lunatik case?

 

[Ffosse]

Nice find, hope it works out for you.

 

[WarHeadz]

Interesting. Sounds legitimate.

What caused the issue to begin with the Watch?

Did you confirm the Apple Care with Apple?

What other unannounced issues are possible?

I would at least verify what the issue may be first with Apple and ask what your options may be for repair status?

Let us know how it goes.

No word on what caused the issue, but as someone else stated it's usually a bad update or a battery problem. The seller disclosed the serial number, so I was able to check the AppleCare status. It's covered until October 19th, 2017. Worst case scenario I can return it to the seller in the same condition it was sent to me in and I just lose out on the shipping cost. I figured it's worth the gamble.
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Maybe the seller doesn't see much use in the Apple Watch for him/herself, so decided to just get rid of them ASAP.

It's actually an ebay store, not a private ebay account. They sell a bunch of other stuff, they just happened to have a coupe of Apple Watches in this condition listed and they were all sold almost instantly.
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Nice pickup...
Just for fun can anyone guess how much I sold my First Gen AW SG Sport 42mm for with Lunatik case?

$250?

 

[44267547]

No word on what caused the issue, but as someone else stated it's usually a bad update or a battery problem. The seller disclosed the serial number, so I was able to check the AppleCare status. It's covered until October 19th, 2017. Worst case scenario I can return it to the seller in the same condition it was sent to me in and I just lose out on the shipping cost. I figured it's worth the gamble.
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It's actually an ebay store, not a private ebay account. They sell a bunch of other stuff, they just happened to have a coupe of Apple Watches in this condition listed and they were all sold almost instantly.
[doublepost=1482002213][/doublepost]
$250?

And your covered under Pay Pals six Months buyer protection if something else were to go wrong or the seller wasn't honest. Did the Watch ship yet?

 

[WarHeadz]

And your covered under Pay Pals six Months buyer protection if something else were to go wrong or the seller wasn't honest. Did the Watch ship yet?

I am covered under buyer protection with PayPal. I'm not too worried about the seller, their communication has been extraordinary. I actually just finished an email exchange with him. He hasn't shipped it yet, he advised me to call up apple and get them to send me a prepaid box to send it to them rather than taking it to the Genius Bar. This is his last email to me about 20 minutes ago in response to me asking him for a tracking number so I know which day it's arriving and can make a genius bar appointment for that day:

I recommend that you NOT take it to the store but that you instead set up the repair online (I can explain how if that would help). I think you'll have a much better chance of getting it replaced, and they send you a prepaid shipping box for free, so it still doesn't cost you anything to have them look at it (and hopefully repair/replace it) since it is under warranty. Since you've already paid for the watch, you can actually set up the repair before you even receive it. That way if for some reason they refuse to allow the repair to be set up due to the activation lock you haven't lost the shipping cost. I can wait to send it until you have at least verified that the online repair is set up and the prepaid shipping box has been mailed to you.

 

[44267547]

I am covered under buyer protection with PayPal. I'm not too worried about the seller, their communication has been extraordinary. I actually just finished an email exchange with him. He hasn't shipped it yet, he advised me to call up apple and get them to send me a prepaid box to send it to them rather than taking it to the Genius Bar. This is his last email to me about 20 minutes ago in response to me asking him for a tracking number so I know which day it's arriving and can make a genius bar appointment for that day:

Glad you found a responsible and responsive seller. eBay really has degraded with all the fraud that has consumed it in these last few years. Hope it all works out for you.

 

[WarHeadz]

Glad you found a responsible and responsive seller. eBay really has degraded with all the fraud that has consumed it in these last few years. Hope it all works out for you.

I really hope it works out, it would be an incredible deal if I got the replacement. Gonna try to contact apple via chat right now.
[doublepost=1482014047][/doublepost]Update: Apple instructed me to log into iCloud to release the activation lock, which obviously I can't do. The seller refunded my money. There goes that deal.

 

[44267547]

I really hope it works out, it would be an incredible deal if I got the replacement. Gonna try to contact apple via chat right now.
[doublepost=1482014047][/doublepost]Update: Apple instructed me to log into iCloud to release the activation lock, which obviously I can't do. The seller refunded my money. There goes that deal.

At least he refunded your money immediately. Keep searching, perhaps there is something similar out there.

 

[WarHeadz]

At least he refunded your money immediately. Keep searching, perhaps there is something similar out there.

He actually had a similar one right before that for $150 with no iCloud lock, just needed to be turned into Apple for a replacement. I stupidly thought about it for way too long and by the time I made up my mind it was gone. I was super upset. I asked the seller to alert me if he ever has anything similar. In the meantime I'll keep deal hunting. Especially now that I already have my heart set on it. At least I have my stainless steel S0 for now, I just really wanted to have a black watch to switch it up with. I'll make it happen!

 

[3lionsbecks]

Kinda makes you wonder where the seller got the watches if they can't get the iCloud lock taken off.

 

[Arran]

I am covered under buyer protection with PayPal. I'm not too worried about the seller, their communication has been extraordinary. I actually just finished an email exchange with him. He hasn't shipped it yet, he advised me to call up apple and get them to send me a prepaid box to send it to them rather than taking it to the Genius Bar. This is his last email to me about 20 minutes ago in response to me asking him for a tracking number so I know which day it's arriving and can make a genius bar appointment for that day:

That email you quoted smells fishy. In it, he is instructing you very precisely in the process you must follow with Apple to have the best chance of scoring a replacement (and doubling or tripling your money)

If he knows how to do that - and everything is above board - why isn't he doing it himself? Selling stuff on eBay takes time and trouble, but people do it primarily to make money. So why is he giving away half or more of his profit? To be nice to a stranger?

Doesn't add up.

 

[Sajal]

Those watches maybe stolen or unknowingly purchased by 3rd party ignorant buyers, otherwise the seller would have been able to release the activation lock from his iCloud account

 

[44267547]

Those watches maybe stolen or unknowingly purchased by 3rd party ignorant buyers, otherwise the seller would have been able to release the activation lock from his iCloud account

Did you read the OP's post(s)? He had intensive communication and writing stating the negotiation. Not to mention the Seller rating and feedback. Not every transaction is corrupted. And even if it was, @WarHeadz is completely covered by Pay Pal six month protection. It's fail safe and without the unknown.

 

[WarHeadz]

That email you quoted smells fishy. In it, he is instructing you very precisely in the process you must follow with Apple to have the best chance of scoring a replacement (and doubling or tripling your money)

If he knows how to do that - and everything is above board - why isn't he doing it himself? Selling stuff on eBay takes time and trouble, but people do it primarily to make money. So why is he giving away half or more of his profit? To be nice to a stranger?

Doesn't add up.

I really don't have an answer for that. He had two cloud locked watches listed and one without the cloud lock that I missed out on. Since refunding me my money, he relisted the item at a reduced price and "for parts only", no mention of warranties or replacements anymore. I guess he learned something from this too. Given this seller's 15 year eBay history and phenomenonal feedback score, I doubt he was trying to do something fishy. At this point it doesn't matter though, I already have my money back.

I actually just bought a brand new still wrapped in plastic (somebody received it as a warranty replacement and is selling it) 42 mm black for $150. They had it listed as a Series 1 but after I committed to buy it I asked them to confirm it was a series 1 and they said it was a mistake and it's actually a first gen model. Still, $150 for a brand new first gen 42mm Apple Watch is a good deal. Should I pay for it and take it or should I cancel the transaction? What would you guys do? Kinda wanted the Series 1 with a faster processor, is it that noticeable of a difference?

 

[Populus]

@WarHeadz I personally wouldn't buy a first gen Apple Watch, because both Series 1 and Series 2 have now a much powerful dual core CPU.

Yes, 150$ is a good price, but still, I think that Apple Watch won't age very well... But it depends on the use you're going to give it. It's up to you.

 

[WarHeadz]

@WarHeadz I personally wouldn't buy a first gen Apple Watch, because both Series 1 and Series 2 have now a much powerful dual core CPU.

Yes, 150$ is a good price, but still, I think that Apple Watch won't age very well... But it depends on the use you're going to give it. It's up to you.

You're right. I just cancelled the transaction. Back to the hunt!

 

[Arran]

I really don't have an answer for that. He had two cloud locked watches listed and one without the cloud lock that I missed out on. Since refunding me my money, he relisted the item at a reduced price and "for parts only", no mention of warranties or replacements anymore. I guess he learned something from this too. Given this seller's 15 year eBay history and phenomenonal feedback score, I doubt he was trying to do something fishy. At this point it doesn't matter though, I already have my money back.

I actually just bought a brand new still wrapped in plastic (somebody received it as a warranty replacement and is selling it) 42 mm black for $150. They had it listed as a Series 1 but after I committed to buy it I asked them to confirm it was a series 1 and they said it was a mistake and it's actually a first gen model. Still, $150 for a brand new first gen 42mm Apple Watch is a good deal. Should I pay for it and take it or should I cancel the transaction? What would you guys do? Kinda wanted the Series 1 with a faster processor, is it that noticeable of a difference?

Okay, trying to be positive here... Maybe he bought them at a lost property auction?

Oh, hang on, look what Google turned up: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7452674?start=0&tstart=0

Maybe that's it: Lost and then locked by their original owners? Not claimed and then legitimately sold in an auction to someone like your seller who then tried to re-sell on eBay?
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You're right. I just cancelled the transaction. Back to the hunt!

Okay, well if you can spring for $399, Best buy is selling a "Series 0" 38mm SBSS with link band. New. They must've got more clearance stock from Apple?

(The Apple link band is awesome, BTW. If it wasn't 38mm only I'd buy another one for myself at that price)