a touch screen ipod.....a phone.....an internet communicator.....an ipod....a phone.....are you getting it??
Lol that was great.
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Lol that was great.
You have to be kidding me. The keyboard on Android Jelly Bean completely sh**s on the iOS keyboard (which is actually quite terrible by today's standards). Syncing with your Google account is significantly easier and quite frankly better than using MobileMe, and Visual Voicemail is implemented with Google Voice. The one thing I WILL agree with you about is the default email app. If you're not using GMail (which is significantly better on Android), the email client for other accounts def leaves something to be desired.
Other than that, you simply don't have a strong grasp on how far the competition has come.
I am indeed serious. Mobile safari was better than other mobile browsers in a lot of ways, but it wasn't like other browsers were unusable. I happily browsed the web on my K800i. Apple improved the mobile browser, but that didn't excuse the numerous ommissions of features that were concidered standard by that point.
It did for me. My Motorola Razr had plenty of features that the iPhone lacked, but all of them sucked. Also, keep in mind that the iPhone can run up to iOS 3 at this point.
First iPhone was definitely the most revolutionary phone Apple released since it laid the blueprint of what iOS would be. Then competitors took cues from it. But the first iPhone still lacked apps and basic features that made power users shun away from it. It was a great-looking device acting like a dumbphone most of its first year unless you jailbroke it which wasnt easy to do yet. Then the App Store opened and it made it officially a smartphone. Most Nokia diehards refused calling it a smartphone since you couldnt install official 3rd party apps yet.
But I tried using a first gen iPhone again this year. I sold it again last month. Even at 3.1.3 and no JB, it still lags. What I hate was its lack of RAM and multitasking. I couldnt even listen to Pandora while browsing the web. The phone would literally freeze up the touch input if I received a text while I was still on a call. I have a cheap dumbphone that can receive texts while I'm on call. First iPhone still had way too many hardware glitches that didnt make it perform smoothly like its successors. I'd say first iPhone was the most revolutionary for laying the groundwork. The iPhone 3Gs is the one that Apple got most of it right. It is usually that 3rd-5th gen in a product line where things get refined.
But I tried using a first gen iPhone again this year. I sold it again last month. Even at 3.1.3 and no JB, it still lags. What I hate was its lack of RAM and multitasking. I couldnt even listen to Pandora while browsing the web. The phone would literally freeze up the touch input if I received a text while I was still on a call. I have a cheap dumbphone that can receive texts while I'm on call. First iPhone still had way too many hardware glitches that didnt make it perform smoothly like its successors. I'd say first iPhone was the most revolutionary for laying the groundwork. The iPhone 3Gs is the one that Apple got most of it right. It is usually that 3rd-5th gen in a product line where things get refined.
The Razr wasn't a spectacular phone either. It was thin, thats it. It is all purely subjective, but thats my opinion. Also, its support of iOS 3 is somewhat irrelevant, we.are talking about the phone at launch. Even with iOS 3, it still had a shocking camera, poor call quality, and a ridiculous headphone jack. Giving it a few more features a year and two years later doesn't make it a better phone at launch.
Now that you've reminded me of the headphone jack...
Man that was the worst headphone jack I have ever seen. They should have used authentic Beats audio d00d:
I had a Tilt (HTC TyTn II was the actual non AT&T device name, I believe)--actually had a couple of them
Agreed. I managed mobile devices where I work when the iPhone came out. We were desparate for anything that worked well so we tried most all of them. The majority of our phones were 3rd generation Tilts and a lot of folks gave them back after using them because they were poor performers in a number of ways. I remember rebooting my every morning to get back on the network and eventually went back to a candy bar dumb phone. I bought the orginal iPhone on launch day and haven't used anything since. We now BYOD and 90% of the mobile devices in use are iOS. Mobile devices were stagnating to the point of festering before the iPhone.
What's funny about this is that all of this stuff is way better on Android. Gmail kicks the crap out of the iOS mail app. The keyboard for Android is also superior, try selecting a letter in the middle of a word on iOS vs Android. Go ahead, I dare you. See where the cursor ends up on iOS vs. Android...then on top of that try dragging the cursor around. See which one works better.
Syncing with other devices? Like what? I can "sync" Android devices...from a web browser. No plugging in. No need to even be on the same network.
Visual voicemail? Try Google Voice on android...visual voicemail is so behind. Android will give you a transcript, but of course you can treat it like visual voicemail as well, and yes it works on your main number.
I would contend that you have no idea what you're talking about and you haven't spent much time with Android. It is so incredibly superior and more functional than iOS that Apple should seriously be ashamed.
I agree with you. On top of that, you couldn't copy and paste! Sometimes I just wanted to throw it against a wall.
I think those that were wowed the most were coming from a Motorola star tac.
...because there were so many threads comparing Apple to Android, the mods had to create a new sub-forum to contain them... and now you're all bickering over what the better phone was 5 years ago.
Geez, it never ends.
Geez, it never ends.
When I select a letter in the middle of a word on my iPhone it goes right where I wanted it to be. What do you have fat sausage fingers? Stop making up falsifications in order to put down the iPhone. It's old.
I would contend that you are upset that the iPhone is superior, and you are for some unknown reason, convinced that Android is better. It's not. 8 out of 10 times I see someone with an Android, first of all, most of them are girls, second of all, they almost always claim "well I wanted an iPhone, but they were too expensive". The iPhone is more adult, more serious, it means business... it's a toy, but it's also a solid smart phone. I really don't feel the same about Android. I feel like it's all toy. It may be a more fun platform to tinker with, and customize. But at the end of the day, if you put an iPhone and an Android phone side by side, I'd be willing to bet that 80% or more of the population would run to the iPhone.
Sadly this debate will never rest. Be happy with YOUR phone. And stop hating.
Now that you've reminded me of the headphone jack...
Man that was the worst headphone jack I have ever seen. They should have used authentic Beats audio d00d: Image
So you don't actually remember the headphone jack then? Let me remind you. It was recessed so that pretty much the only headphones that could be used with the phone were the crappy Apple ones. Given that it was marketed as being a widescreen iPod, limiting it to Apples shoddy headphone offering was plain stupid. Even Beats would be a welcome experience after those tinny earbuds dood.
Yeah, I remember that. Actually, I have the original iPhone. You can actually use non-Apple headphones with it, but many of them won't work. I got mine to work by jamming them in there, but it doesn't always work well. That was just really, really stupid.
It reminds me of the retarded buttonless iPod Shuffle that you could only use Apple earbuds with because it didn't have any buttons!! Or you could use some kind of thing that let you control it but had an audio output. Seriously, whose retarded idea was that?
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that was the issue with the keyboard....selecting just a letter in the middle was impossible for me using both the nexus and the s3 with stock and downloaded keyboards. The drag cursor always would shoot to where ever the hell it felt like, and i like the magnify glass better. I guess it is all preference...I love the iphone keyboard.
the email app i clearly said not gmail, but the one that can support all mail clients blows.
again I was talking about having visual voicemail automatically implemented, and i think you have to pay to have text on googlevoice...not sure though.
Syncing I was more so referring to the stuff available to sync with...google q sucks compared to atv, and air port express makes wireless printing really easy. Again this is all preference.
I have owned a lot of phones , so i know what i am talking about and have spent time with each. Android, like iphones has its perks and downfalls...I just feel like the most important things to me work better with my iphone.
I'm not sure what stock of bad Tilt's you were getting, but mine worked 100% perfectly - I NEVER had an issue. In fact, I still have it, and just tried it, and it STILL works fine over WiFi. I'm not sure how good it was as a WORK phone because I did not use it in that capacity, but as a media device and consumer phone, it was awesome as the time. In fact, picking it up now, it's STILL pretty cool with all of my TABBED custom launchers (I wish OS's had that today) and custom keyboards and dialers and widgets and the like, with a bunch of apps that still work perfectly and intuatively. And the Web browser was decent as well - not up to today's standrads but definitely usuable. And I had Opera browser which was also pretty good and ran flash. It still blows away the iPhone 1.
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You do realize that there are numerous other keyboard that you can download that to replace the stock Android keyboard, many of which are absolutely killer fabulous - Right?
With the iPhone, like most other iOS controlled things, you have NO CHOICE whatsoever. You either like the keyboard (with no swipe, skinning and other modern features) or you don't. Personally, I can barely type on the iphone screen, mainly because the screen is too darn small.
I've watched that keynote several times over the last few years. It was actually before I bought my first iPod, then MacBook Pro and then iPhone 3G. So I was totally oblivious to the whole Apple thing back when SJ did the keynote in 2007.
You do realize that there are numerous other keyboard that you can download that to replace the stock Android keyboard, many of which are absolutely killer fabulous - Right?
With the iPhone, like most other iOS controlled things, you have NO CHOICE whatsoever. You either like the keyboard (with no swipe, skinning and other modern features) or you don't. Personally, I can barely type on the iphone screen, mainly because the screen is too darn small.
I tried other keyboard, but none of them worked the way i wanted. I have small hands so the screen is really easy for me to type on. I use two hands on the keyboard and type with my thumbs and for some reason i can be a speed demon on the iphone and not the droid =/. Also, with the nexus and Jellybean I felt like i was making my phone as minimalist as possible, which the iphone kinda is stock. I definitely agree that the droid's are amazing phones and the customization is endless, but i just want to grab and go and could careless about widgets.
It really is an endless debate that people have encounter over and over on these forums, and the only way to know for yourself what works is to try both. I have and I couldn't get my hands back on the iphone fast enough.