Kaiser does it again....

Discussion in 'PowerPC Macs' started by Imixmuan, Feb 5, 2017.

  1. Imixmuan macrumors 6502

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    This week saw some exceptional work by LASTIC on porting smtube to mac os x ppc, and now Cameron Kaiser introduces a new method of youtube and vimeo playback sort of a sequel to his mactubes enabler in tenfourfox, using, are you ready for it? FLASH. Shock, shock, horror, horror.

    It's experimental and unsupported. You have been warned, grasshoppers.

    http://tenfourfox.blogspot.com/2017/02/an-experiment-introducing-popoutplayer.html
     
  2. Hrududu macrumors 68020

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    This is an interesting idea. I really do appreciate TenFourFox quite a bit, but poor YouTube and other video playback performance is a major drawback. Firing up WebKit means I can watch 1080 YouTube videos on the G5 which isn't at all possible without Flash.... Good lord, hard to believe Flash is still a thing in 2017.
     
  3. Lastic macrumors 6502

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    Just to state that I did't PORT anything, I merely succeeded in compiling the dependencies and the source-code of the
    already available SMtube to work on Leopard via a huge detour namely Xcode and Macports.

    Cameron Kaiser is a true DEVELOPER in that he creates these things from the ground up for which I can only be very thankful and bow , tipping my 'virtual' hat.

    Well, back to Tiger and the Powerbook G4 12" who has been building an older qt4-mac Macports port for the past 2 hours and a half :)
     
  4. Imixmuan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Sorry for describing what you did as a port, I guess the whole having to use Macports thing confused me. Thanks for all your hard work, keeping PowerPC alive in 2017 is no mean feat.
     
  5. Dronecatcher macrumors 68000

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    It's great that we've got another option to play with but I found it too demanding for my 17" 1.67 Powerbook (which is no slouch) - between 85-100% CPU with the flash player stopping and stuttering.
     
  6. eyoungren macrumors P6

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    I read that this morning. It's much appreciated, but I'm still in the camp that goes to a different browser to do stuff like video on Youtube.

    T4Fx is great and I will support it, but even with the tweaking I've done to it, it's still way to heavy to be using for any serious video watching.

    I am reminded of Niobe's comment in the movie Matrix: Revolutions about the Hammer (hovercraft) when trying to maneuver the ship in some tight quarters. :)
     
  7. Lastic macrumors 6502

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    No worries, I've been using port way too much this week :)
    I'm still convinced that somebody with developer skills can more easily integrate smtube with qt4 than my cumbersome
    procedure, glad to be able to contribute something as a geek with a passion for (this) older hardware.
     
  8. Imixmuan thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Maybe Kaiser or the Japanese dude who created Mactubes will see this and say "A-ha, so it can be done!" and rise to the challenge. Alas, whilst I can compile the odd program, even a kernel or two, I have zero programming skills myself. I did use Codewarrior back in the day, and learned to Applescript when I was in desktop publishing, but that was the nineties and I moved on.
     
  9. pochopsp macrumors 6502

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    I could contact the creator of PPC Media Center... I have his google contact
     
  10. dustinschings macrumors 6502

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    MacTubes in 2017 would be a God Send! I sure hope he DOES see this and is able to make it work! Man do I miss that program!
     
  11. Dronecatcher macrumors 68000

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    From the author last year:

    "This spring spent several days researching playback with MPlayer, VLC, NicePlay and the newly-cracked CorePlayer. YES - did get it to work in each case BUT - only after videos had completely downloaded (so not much advantage over normal download). Also, since the video might take however long to download - then start on its own, was a bit strange from a usage standpoint. Also, none of the advanced features of Theatré Mode could be implemented. ApplescriptAPIs for these other apps (even with GUI-scripting) are just not good enough in the older versions.
    The download issue is HIGHLY problematic. First, it must be hard-coded into the script because of the hand-off that occurs between PPCMC and the AutoDownloader and also, if the newly-selected area is not ALWAYS available, the videos will go to a virtual folder within the hidden "Volumes" folder. Also, unless the Temp-Directory in Application Support is also moved (and it's auto-clearing code), then you are not really saving any wear/tear or space-demands."
    --- Post Merged, Feb 6, 2017 ---
    Lastic's SMtube solution is far superior to Mactubes/Youview as they were - I know you have to install xcode/macports but they don't take that long considering the gain you make with SMtube.
     
  12. dustinschings macrumors 6502

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    I guess I will have to attempt to get it going on one of my machines. Was that Tiger or Leopard specific?
     
  13. Dronecatcher macrumors 68000

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    Leopard. Tiger is not playing! (see Lastic's posts)
     
  14. Lastic macrumors 6502

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    Yup, Tiger isn't playing along, have been compiling qt4-mqc the entire Sunday to notice this Monday morning at 5:30 that after I went to bed it failed at 00:35.

    Came home today and restarted compiling from the failed part, it has been busy for the 2 hours and still not completed.

    Keep in mind I'm doing this on a Powerbook. Seriously considering a Power Mac G4 1.42 DP FW.
     
  15. pochopsp macrumors 6502

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    Yeah I know what he said and the difficulties to implement other players instead of QuickTime, but maybe he doesn't know about Smtube!
     
  16. Lastic macrumors 6502

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    Just to point out the difference between Smtube and the others , smtube is a front to do Youtube search in smplayer
    which itself was ment as a GUI for commandline mplayer.

    The biggest difference is that it uses tonvid.com also created by the authors/developers of smtube/smplayer , which to
    my understanding is a HTML5 replica of Youtube.com.

    Youview/Mactubes would directly connect to Youtube.com like a web-browser and are broken because of the change in
    Google/Youtube API's.

    PPC Media Center gets a copied Youtube URL, converts it to a feed which it then will feed to Quicktime.
    Like mentioned by the PPC Media Center author , when he tries to implement it with other players (MPlayer,VLC,CorePlayer) he first has to download to video to then play it, which is not streaming a feed.

    He might be able to use tonvid.com to get a feed to other players ? But that is basically what Smtube does already.
     
  17. pochopsp macrumors 6502

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    I don't want him to modify PPC Media Center , which is already perfect, but I would like to ask him to make smtube work without installing xcode and macports
     
  18. Lastic macrumors 6502

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    Ok, I was also reading about statistic linking Qt4 to an app which means you would no longer need to install Qt4-mac
    (and Macports and Xcode) because all necessary libraries would be included with the smtube.app but apart from the theory, that's as far as my programming knowledge goes.

    Always worth a try to get a developer to look at smtube.

    And now I'm going to stop talking about smtube in this thread, currently installing and trying out PopOutPlayer on TFF .
    I hope it might enable the Udemy videos to playback on TFF. watching videos on udemy
     

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