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do you believe racism exists on this very thread?
The only person I see 'possibly' making a racist accusation is this guy.

Not that I like this thug or his music or any other artist, but when I buy a ticket to show, I don't want to hear opinions or views on anything. Do your job, play your music, and go home.
Kanye has no criminal record or background and his family is very well off. Nothing to classify him as a
Troll him, sir.


BTW Why am I still in this thread? I don't care...
 
people like you are the reason why conservatives feel they have some footing when they claim someone is merely playing the race card when in fact racism actually happening. Crying wolf just because things aren't going your way is a bad idea
You do understand that you are suggesting not "some", but "conservatives" in general are, in some form racist. That makes you an idiot. People do not have to like someone just because they are a different color. People do not have to respect a disrespectful person just because he is a minority. And it doesn't make them racist.
 
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People do not have to like someone just because they are a different color. People do not have to respect a disrespectful person just because he is a minority. And it doesn't make them racist.
Yep ... it's pretty annoying to have to explain that ... repeatedly. I don't like Kanye West because he's a pile of garbage. He's hateful, he's immensely racist, and he's so in love with himself that he's created his own reality and gets confused and angry when nobody but him sees his deluded perspective. The guy even compares himself to Jesus. I don't think he actually has any redeeming qualities as a human being.
 
Yep ... it's pretty annoying to have to explain that ... repeatedly. I don't like Kanye West because he's a pile of garbage. He's hateful, he's immensely racist, and he's so in love with himself that he's created his own reality and gets confused and angry when nobody but him sees his deluded perspective. The guy even compares himself to Jesus. I don't think he actually has any redeeming qualities as a human being.
I won't take shots at him but everything you said about him sure seems like he's a piece of work.
 



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During the Seattle leg of his Saint Pablo Tour, Kanye West was reported as calling out the rivalry between Apple Music and Tidal as the main factor behind the reason why there won't be a sequel to Watch The Throne, his 2011 collaboration with Jay-Z. The main reason appears to be Jay-Z's ownership of Tidal and the streaming company's ongoing rift with Apple Music, which he previously said was negatively affecting the music industry as a whole (via The Fader).

West also said that he and Jay-Z didn't appear on the final cut of Drake's song "Pop Style" because of the same "beef" between the two streaming services. The singer hinted that Apple didn't want artists mainly associated with a rival to appear on one of its exclusive albums, Drake's Views. During the concert, West said the trio needed to quash the squabble and "let people have this song," echoing a similar tweet he sent out over the summer.
Kanye's discontent with Apple Music began earlier in the year when he remained adamant that his new album "Pablo" would "never" launch on the service, but it eventually did after a few weeks. In the summer, West tweeted out a request for Apple and Tidal to meet and officially end their fight, which came on the back of reports that Apple might have been discussing the acquisition of Tidal. Apple Music executive Jimmy Iovine eventually quelled those rumors, saying "we're really running our own race. We're not looking to acquire any streaming services."

Article Link: Kanye West Blames Rivalry Between Apple and Tidal for Lack of New Collaboration With Jay-Z
The only "rivalry" that exists is the one in Kanye's head. He's completely delusional.
 
Yep ... it's pretty annoying to have to explain that ... repeatedly. I don't like Kanye West because he's a pile of garbage. He's hateful, he's immensely racist, and he's so in love with himself that he's created his own reality and gets confused and angry when nobody but him sees his deluded perspective. The guy even compares himself to Jesus. I don't think he actually has any redeeming qualities as a human being.
How is he racist? I've heard so many white people mention this and I don't understand it at all. I am white, and I've never heard him say anything racist. He brings awareness to inequality, which may offend people because they want to avoid thinking about it.

How is he hateful? The only hateful people I see in this discussion are the majority of the posters in this thread.

"He's so in love with himself" Ok maybe, he does have confidence in himself, and he does influence music and fashion. His narcissism is found in many other artists and famous people, but for some reason, he is the only person attacked so much for that.
 
The douche of all douche bags!
I cannot believe that anyone would buy his absolute crap music.
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How is he racist? I've heard so many white people mention this and I don't understand it at all. I am white, and I've never heard him say anything racist. He brings awareness to inequality, which may offend people because they want to avoid thinking about it.

How is he hateful? The only hateful people I see in this discussion are the majority of the posters in this thread.

"He's so in love with himself" Ok maybe, he does have confidence in himself, and he does influence music and fashion. His narcissism is found in many other artists and famous people, but for some reason, he is the only person attacked so much for that.


He is actually an insecure winey little b.
 
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Don't even try... they hate him, like he murdered their families.

If this story would have come from any other, more liked artist, people would support him/her.
Because his point is actually very valid. If the politics of the different streaming services get in the way of collaboration between artists and essentially prevent artists from doing what they want to do, then it's actually a big problem.
But as soon as people read his name, their hate kicks in and they get tunnel vision.
Thanks, that what I was asking in an earlier post. He may not be lovable or whatever, but I think he is trying to make a point about the business rivalries stifling the creative process. We used to have to worry about rival record labels and their infighting. Now it's between streaming services. It's one thing for the consumer to be affected on a per album basis when the record labels get a bug up their tails over various deals. But now we find ourselves immersed in subscription based ecosystems and that raises the consequences for the fans. I can't really even comment on it all from the artists' perspectives.
 
I have this crazy theory that since he's been "broke" and needed money and how people say the stolen jewelry was an inside job, maybe it was them that planned it all along so they can collect the insurance money.
Some guy is getting sued right now for claiming that in public (without any justification whatsoever). As much as I dislike West + Wife, what happened to them in Paris is something that I wouldn't wish an almost anyone, and not on them. (Now if it happened to Philipp Green + wife, that's the kind of person where I would applaud the robbers. Sorry, the people taking the jewellery, not the robbers).
 
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Could somebody here please write a browser add-on which changes every text instance of "Kanye West" to something else?

It should make reading about him a little more tolerable. For example:

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Nicely done, however it would actually prove Kanye's point here. Your prowess, or talent with live HTML & js is appreciated by a newb such as myself.

however a few things to consider about Kanye's outburst which is NOT similar to his strong opinions of others when drunk at the awards show.

Started Career with Roc-A-Fella Records:
worked wtih Jay Z
Alicia Keys

debut album "The College Dropout" in 2004 to widespread critical and commercial success
Featuring his own drum coding
named by Time and Rolling Stone as one of the greatest albums of all time

So ask yourself:
How good are you with drum machine coding or playing drums?
how good are you with music engineering hardware / software?
How do you handle yourself with top billing artists in a record studio and the knowledge to direct them for the best performances which in their OWN right and experience usually do NOT need this with their decades of experience?
How many Gold & Platinum and critically acclaimed hits, and albums featured on Billboard have you produced?

See perception is a great thing, a funny thing until you place yourself in some else's shoes and perceive them as how you perceive yourself in your skills and talent and grant them the credit of theirs on the topic relevant. This is relevant and neither you nor most people hating in this article thread have the concept or background talent to comment negatively of his work.
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I cannot believe that anyone would buy his absolute crap music.
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I'd say most of the globe for the past 10yrs have eaten up his works and collaborations setting what used to be the norm of gangster rap in a different direction for Hip-Hop genre and WON! But what do I know.

You may not, nor I, agree with the context and how he words his opinions ... he doesn't have a filter and is a hot-head ... but hey like the current First Lady and President stated, as FANS I might ad, he's being a Jackass! lol. But the respect for his craft is NOT lost on them. Just cause I don't appreciate modern country or blues doesn't mean I cannot respect artists hard work and talent in that area.
 
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1. I'm black
2. You're the only one that brought race into this thread.
3. I hate Kanye because of his inflated ego and the fact that he doesn't seem to know how to shut up.
4. I'm a musician who has wrote music before. Your comment doesn't make any sense considering no one is criticizing his work, just his personality and actions.

on point 3. Ego yes, many artists do regardless of their focus of talent/craft (ahem Prince) BUT that's their job to stir things up show off their talent which IS THEIR VIEW their perception of things:

Picaso - paintings
Prince - music via instruments collaborations. Nobody said **** about his view of recording company's and MP3's that was AGAINST the norm fronted by Metallica drummer Lars very early on ... BUT he got a standing ovation stating his by MANY peers in various genres! Funny they villified him for "The artist formerly known as Prince" not realizing his views with MP3's and free downloaded music and recording company's and their stiffling contracts was a precursor to that artistic title to get OUT of a 5yr obligation of recordings to Sony. The man NOW is revered by so many as a GENIUS in the music industry views. But then most people, especiall non fans ONLY SAW HIS INFLATED EGO ;) Savvy?

^ that is just one artist that is actually DOING their job, not just the craft that pays them.

4. "I'm a musician who has wrote music before." it should be 'written' not wrote but I make mistakes in tense all the time. ;)

And the very first page about 15 people criticized both his work and opinion read again.

cheers.
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Not that I like this thug or his music or any other artist, but when I buy a ticket to show, I don't want to hear opinions or views on anything. Do your job, play your music, and go home.

Dude ... an artist is to present, change perceptions of others, and even direct others to different points of view!
Music MOVES your soul, changes your emotions, a uephoric form of high
Pictures, carvings, or other visual forms of art MOVES your concious and sometimes sub-concious thoughts on WHERE you are and possibly WHO someone is in the present and potentially future goals. Look at many visual artist greats in history in what they changed on human views of society and pointing for very few scientist to prove their views as fact!

So ... it IS their job to express their opinions and views on anything:
Why do you think so many musicians and singers create lyrics to their tracks ... it's very rarely FACT thta is written, but it's not wrong either (most of it) it's their .... opinion.
 
Are you serious?


And this is where I stopped reading.
Maybe if you actually read my whole post, you would see what I'm trying to say. It is just a fact that it is predominately white people who have stated that he is racist. It would be nice if you could tell me why he is racist and hateful.
 
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Maybe if you actually read my whole post, you would see what I'm trying to say. It is just a fact that is predominately white people who have stated that he is racist. It would be nice if you could tell me why he is racist and hateful.
If you're incapable of separating race from character, this conversation isn't even worth having.
 
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people like you are the reason why conservatives feel they have some footing when they claim someone is merely playing the race card when in fact racism is actually happening. Crying wolf just because things aren't going your way is a bad idea - it hurts us all.
You do understand that you are suggesting not "some", but "conservatives" in general are, in some form racist. That makes you an idiot. People do not have to like someone just because they are a different color. People do not have to respect a disrespectful person just because he is a minority. And it doesn't make them racist.
No, I was not suggesting that all conservatives, or conservatives in general, are racist. You're mis-parsing my sentence. I was saying that the subset of conservatives who are racist (that is, the intersection of the set of all racists and the set of all conservatives), who say real actual racist things and then try to claim any detractors are "playing the race card", will, unfortunately, benefit from the actions of the OP, who is hurting society precisely by playing into that very stereotype.

I could have said - indeed I should have said - "people", not "conservatives", and for that I apologize. My experience has been that the majority of people who do the specific thing in question (saying racist things and then claiming their detractors are "playing the race card"), when their political leanings have been discernible, have, indeed, been conservatives (it has seemed, at points in the past, like that was one of the favored catchphrases on conservative talk shows). That is why I worded it the way I did. But you are right in that I should have said "people".

I absolutely agree with your two statements, "people do not have to like someone just because they are a different color" and "people do not have to respect a disrespectful person just because he is a minority". In the first half of my original comment, before the part you quoted, I was saying that I strongly dislike both Trump and Kanye, because of their words and actions, their patterns of behavior, and their disrespectful attitudes. I am not prejudiced against black people, I am not prejudiced against white or orange people. I do have a strong dislike for those two individuals. I have a extreme dislike of racist behavior from any side. I was calling out the OP for behaving that way.
 
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