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Android has not been using "rubber banding" for years now and nobody noticed. With or without this feature people prefer Android to iOS in growing numbers.

People "prefer" Android over iOS the same way that people "prefer" Kia over a Lexus. Some people can't justify paying the difference because it's 'almost' the same experience. Others prefer to pay the premium price for a premium product. Put another way: iOS is to Android, as Kraft Easy-Mac is to Walmart Macaroni and Cheese
 
People "prefer" Android over iOS the same way that people "prefer" Kia over a Lexus. Some people can't justify paying the difference because it's 'almost' the same experience. Others prefer to pay the premium price for a premium product. Put another way: iOS is to Android, as Kraft Easy-Mac is to Walmart Macaroni and Cheese

Keep on telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. We're talking Samsung devices right? The same ones that sell for similar prices as iPhones? That's what I thought...
 
People "prefer" Android over iOS the same way that people "prefer" Kia over a Lexus. Some people can't justify paying the difference because it's 'almost' the same experience. Others prefer to pay the premium price for a premium product. Put another way: iOS is to Android, as Kraft Easy-Mac is to Walmart Macaroni and Cheese

Feel free to think that but you couldn't be more wrong on your assertion. When I bought my Galaxy S3 (switched from an iPhone 4) last year I had the money in hand to buy an iPhone 5 no problem. My sister who recently switched to a Galaxy S4 from an iPhone 4S could have done the same as can my step-father who wants to switch from his iPhone 4 to a Galaxy S4.

The difference in price between the Galaxy S4 and iPhone 5 here is rather minimal as is the monthly rate so basically if you can afford an S4 you could get an iPhone 5 too.

Really, people are switching to the Galaxy S3/S4 because they find it to be a superior phone, not due to being unable to afford the iPhone. That's just a stereotype lots of iPhone "fans" like to conjure up in order to make themselves feel better.

It is wrong...of course.
 
Really? Over such a minor garnish to functionality?

Hardly a ground breaking and choice determining factor. I am sure Apple lost 1000's of sales to Samsung just because customers became confused between the two OS's. :rolleyes:;)

Oh...I thought Apple lost sales because people became confused between rectangles with curved corners. Damn, hard to keep up! :D

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LOL, good one.

You're accusing the industry innovator of killing innovation :eek:

The industry innovator - maybe 6 years ago. Remember what happened to that "innovative" company the last time Steve Jobs left? Yeah, it almost went out of business if not for the money infused into it by other companies, namely Microsoft.

Stevie boy won't be making a comeback to save it this time, so Cook & Co better pull their heads out if they want to keep the momentum up. The Mac Pro is innovative, I'll give them that. Unfortunately, it'll be priced waaay out of the mainstream user's reach and even some prosumer's reach. They need another grand-slam like it, and I hate to break the news to you - iOS 7 isn't it, at least in it's current form. They really need to accept the criticism they're getting about it & fix it instead of trying to shove it down people's throats. Otherwise, the next iPhone will be lackluster in sales.
 
******* thieving Lamesung. Copy Apple's innovations and hard work then constantly make fun of them after Steve passes? Corrupt company with a criminal anti-American CEO who's been pardoned by Korean govt many times for crimes he committed.
 
People "prefer" Android over iOS the same way that people "prefer" Kia over a Lexus. Some people can't justify paying the difference because it's 'almost' the same experience. Others prefer to pay the premium price for a premium product. Put another way: iOS is to Android, as Kraft Easy-Mac is to Walmart Macaroni and Cheese

These car analogies are silly. Does KIA have more powerful engine than Lexus? More features? Android phones have much better specs than iPhone. Galaxy is a luxury brand here, not iPhone. Just compare their BOMs (Bill of Materials). iPhone has the lowest BOM of all premium smart phones. That's a budget brand not a luxury.
 
These car analogies are silly. Does KIA have more powerful engine than Lexus? More features? Android phones have much better specs than iPhone. Galaxy is a luxury brand here, not iPhone. Just compare their BOMs (Bill of Materials). iPhone has the lowest BOM of all premium smart phones. That's a budget brand not a luxury.

You're comparing an iPhone from last October to a recent Android phone's BOM? You seem to continuously top yourself in saying silly things. The GPU is an area that the iPhone and Ipad are always either leading or near the top at release. What about that?
 
You're comparing an iPhone from last October to a recent Android phone's BOM? You seem to continuously top yourself in saying silly things. The GPU is an area that the iPhone and Ipad are always either leading or near the top at release. What about that?

Specs don't matter? The major tech industry players tend to leapfrog each other with every new release? What about it?
 
You're comparing an iPhone from last October to a recent Android phone's BOM? You seem to continuously top yourself in saying silly things. The GPU is an area that the iPhone and Ipad are always either leading or near the top at release. What about that?

You can compare BOM of any iPhone in the last three years to the BOM of any HTC On or Samsung Galaxy S phones in any of these years. All three iPhone BOM are lower than any of the BOMs for these Android phones (pick any year). Which is not a surprise since iPhone has half RAM, smallish screen, small battery, no NFC etc.
 
Yeah no kidding. What's the point in comparing a phone from last October to a new phone? What about that?

Isn't comparing a new phone to older ones what you just did when you bragged about the GPU in the iDevices being best of class at release?

I see you can read.

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You can compare BOM of any iPhone in the last three years to the BOM of any HTC On or Samsung Galaxy S phones in any of these years. All three iPhone BOM are lower than any of the BOMs for these Android phones (pick any year). Which is not a surprise since iPhone has half RAM, smallish screen, small battery, no NFC etc.

I see. So the iPhone needs a higher BOM? Why don't you go back to complaining about iOS needing a filesystem?
 
'Rubber Banding'? What an awful name....
I thought it was called 'Bounced Scrolling'?

Anyway I have no problem with this patent being valid. It's genius and not so obvious. Unlike the 'tap to zoom' patent.
 
Those equates apple for suing to killing innovation, only want something cheap regardless stolen ripped or hijacked. These are the real murderer.
 
IMHO, the rubber-banding was one of the most important behaviors of the iOS UI. The behavior shows something fundamental to our biology -- all parts have a viscoelastic behavior with each other. You can see this behavior if you pull on your earlobe; you can see the same behavior if you squeeze on your earlobe. Such nonlinear behaviors are intuitively obvious in the physical world; they make a huge amount of behavior to use for mobile devices (and, now, in OS X). See my follow-up message for info about the science and liberal arts behind Apple's design.

Interesting stuff.

I have a different take on rubber-banding through. IMO it makes the UI feel alive, because unlike a button phones, touchscreen isn't tactile, so if you slide somewhere and there is no action, it feels like the phone froze.

Rubber-banding makes navigating the UI more playful, it's an incredible little effect and IMO one of the biggest things responsible for iOS' user experience.

I wish it had been invalidated so Android and other operating systems used it too.
 
Keep on telling yourself that if it helps you sleep at night. We're talking Samsung devices right? The same ones that sell for similar prices as iPhones? That's what I thought...

Except the ones that sell for similar prices as the iPhone don't sell nearly as well as the iPhone does. You can't throw in all the "Kia" phones with the "Volvo/Mercedes/whatever premium brand" Android phones and then try to say people prefer them over the Apple "Lexus".

That's what the OP was getting at with the car analogy. So like he said, saying people "prefer" Android over iOS is like saying people "prefer" Kia over Lexus.

The majority of Android phones sold are not S4's or HTC One's. The real numbers being moved are in the mid to low range phones. Especially in the large emerging markets like India and China.

Hence why you see Android and iOS very close in mature markets like the U.S. with Android losing market share for several quarters now and iOS expected to overtake it within the next year or two.
 
These car analogies are silly. Does KIA have more powerful engine than Lexus? More features? Android phones have much better specs than iPhone. Galaxy is a luxury brand here, not iPhone. Just compare their BOMs (Bill of Materials). iPhone has the lowest BOM of all premium smart phones. That's a budget brand not a luxury.

No. Just no.

Do you really think the Samsung Galaxy Ace and other similar Android phones that Samsung, Huawei, and others are selling a ton of have better specs than the iPhone 5?

Even if you look at the relative small number of Android phones like the S4, Apple always beats them on specs when they introduce a phone. Sure the companies leapfrog one another depending on release date but how is that saying that they have better specs? Heck, even the latest Android phones can't touch the GPU specs in Apple's older iPhone.

And here's a hint for you. Android IS Galaxy Ace and similar mid range phones for all practical purposes. And Android IS Gingerbread much more so than it is Jelly Bean. Meanwhile, when Apple introduces a new OS, people generally update extremely fast so that it actually represents what you may call "iOS". The S4/HTC Ones of the world are the premium brands of Android but make up a relatively small part of it just like Jelly Bean.

Sort of like how the Lexus brand is for Toyota. The poster earlier was trying to add up all the tons of Toyota cars sold with the relatively fewer Lexus cars sold and then compare them to just a Mercedes Benz and say people "prefer" Toyota over Mercedes (already a bad analysis) but while also hinting they mean Lexus. So yeah, all sorts of things wrongs in that analysis.
 
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