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Mobile OSs Key Lime Pie?
- Thread starter Michael Goff
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lol I see what you did there.
Let's just say, I doubt that author will be running any subsequent stories apologizing for that not being real.
roxxette
macrumors 68000
It seems to me like it's more to do with how the pictures look since the person took a picture of their screen. It isn't a bad looking UI. Of course, that's just one platform... 😀
SlCKB0Y
macrumors 68040
Yea, me either. I guess it's just too complicated a concept for some.
More likely though - they have just been brain washed into the Apple way of doing this and in its absence, get confused. 🙄
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In what way does it look like Windows 98?
roxxette
macrumors 68000
I just want to know if these leaks are real since the leaked pictures from before turned out to be fake. I want to know if it's legit this time.
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So do you think the pics are real?
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What makes this time any different than the other leaks that turned out to be fake?
roxxette
macrumors 68000
SlCKB0Y
macrumors 68040
Then again, there have been many instances where a particular APK has leaked before the Android version release.
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Haha, nah, I just meant people become accustomed to a certain way of doing things.
An example would be people calling the Windows 8 start screen unintuitive compared to the start menu.... but their familiarity with the start menu biases them against the start screen even though the one is not necessarily more intuitive than the other.
People seem to easily confuse intuitiveness with familiarity.
That's true, but as of right now, even if it did leak, you wouldn't be able to use it. It would be useless.
Tinmania
macrumors 68040
Ugh.... not liking it. It still seems like a hodgepodge of services. Hangout, Google+b needed for photos... They need a messaging app like iMessage. Also don't like the UI. A whole screen for, what seems to be, barely a few sentence fragments worth of messages?
Finally, WTF is wrong with Google about not supporting traditional emoji. I hate--and I mean HATE--the bastardized Androidified emoticons. What the heck were they thinking with that? For that matter why did they ever do the stupid black-and-white subset of emoji in the first place--made worse by the fact that it is Androidified. Ugh.
Michael
That isn't at all how it works. It isn't like you need different services to do different things.
This is much more robust than iMessage. If it was anything like iMessage, it would be a pretty big step back from what it is.
You're entitled to your opinion of course, though I don't think you can really judge the gmail version of the UI on those shots, as though don't show much.
That is not a whole screen.
Tinmania
macrumors 68040
I hope you are right, especially if by more robust you mean it has everything iMessage/Messages already has (such as being able to use phone number, use SMS if the other party doesn't use it, etc.).
Michael
It doesn't have anything to do with SMS. What you have to understand is, Babel and iMessage are two totally different things. iMessage is basically just a barebones instant messenger that is tied into a phone number. It does really have any features at all, and is pretty plain. Babel is something a bit different.
Tinmania
macrumors 68040
Yes but with iMessage I was able to use the same app to communicate with people who had iMessage, and those who didn't. With Babel it will only be useful if the other party has it too, which limits its usefulness to me. It's not much different than what I have to do now, using SMS, whatsapp, and fb--adding yet another to the mix. I was hoping I could go back to primarily one app for messages, as I did with Messages on my iPhone.
Oh well.
Michael
iMessages, like I said is not the same thing. iMessages is only useful if you are sending a text message to another iPhone user. As for the text part of it, that's just sms. iMessages just happens to be in that app. It's usefulness is still quite limited as it doesn't have any real group conversations (it's half-baked attempt at it is horrible), no video chatting, no group video chatting, can't add phone callers to a video chat, can't start rooms, etc. There is much that iMessages cannot do. Babel on the other hand is much deeper and much more robust, it just doesn't include SMS (at least not right now anyway). IMO Babel is much more useful than iMessages, and it isn't even close.
onthecouchagain
macrumors 604
mattopotamus
macrumors Pentium
I understand where you are coming from. Why babel may incorporate all of these features into 1 device, it still will require other users to download an app....unlike imessage which will still send an SMS if people do not have iphones. It won't be a big deal for people who have android devices since you can pick your default apps, but someone who has an iphone may not find it as seamless.
If I'm using a computer and someone sends me something on iMessage, I just won't get it. If someone wants to start a real group conversation on iMessage, they will need to download an app because it lacks that capability. If someone wants to start a video chat with me on iMessage, they will need an app because it lacks that capability. Sure, they can send a text message to a person that doesn't have an iPhone, but that's been possible for a couple decades and truly is nothing special nor worth touting. iMessage is extremely vanilla and isn't very useful except under very specific circumstances (where both users have an iPhone), and even then there isn't very much benefit to it. Babel is a completely different animal.
jrswizzle
macrumors 603
What do you mean by "real group conversation"? I find iMessage does group messages plenty fine.
And all those things you mention - iMessage may be more "vanilla", but it hits the most popular feature - seamless SMS/MMS over wifi. That's my biggest need/reason I really like iMessage - I find that reason alone adds infinitely more benefit than a button for group video messaging that I'll never use.
Don't get me wrong, I'm extremely excited to see what Babel will offer - just hoped it would merge ALL messaging (including standard SMS) into one place that would work cross-platform.....if that's not the case, I'll likely never download it and continue to use the stock SMS app as that is what I do my messaging on 100% of the time.
A big pet-peeve of mine is having multiple apps with essentially the same function.....I want ONE that finds my sports scores, ONE that allows me to message people. Video chat can fall under "calling" - which is why it is merged with the phone/call function (ability to facetime from the call menu).
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Agreed - really just comes down to the stock messaging app being relatively poor. iMessage - even in its "vanilla" state - is infinitely more useful, if only for the fact that it works 100% better and faster.
Was hoping Babel would incorporate SMS into it's fold, but I guess that isn't the case, which means I likely won't bother downloading it - don't generally need/want to group video chat.....