What a BS. As Apple has always said it's up to Msft to release Windows on ARM, as they own the software. It has also leaked out the Msft made a deal with Qualcomm, to be only allowed to use Win on ARM as Qualcomm made ARM cpu's for the some Surface computers. This, deal is running out soon and then Msft will allow us to buy Windows on ARM.
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Key M1 Mac Engineer Departs Apple for Intel
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No individual contributor is going to make a huge difference at Apple or Intel at this point in time.
I'm not sure you're the fountain of knowledge we should turn to on things like this when you can't spell "you're".
M2 is based on A16?
Got a link for that?
Everything I've read, said it is A15 based
These movements are completely natural.
What I do think, is that iPhone / iOS sales are still the bread and butter of this new Apple …. Outside the smartphone product and derivative digital services and products the business looks flat, macOS … at instances “poor” for such a company size (Apple TV, HomePod).
Meaning, a break in iPhone sales … s … storm in valuation. But the company has a lot of cash in the bank … so …
Looking foreword to what Apple might bring this year. But the news aren’t really that exciting … will see. 27” iMacs and monitors at over $3000? 24” iMacs that can’t do decent gaming at $1500? Ok we have the Macmini … what else?
To FaceID or not to FaceID on the max this year … that is the question.
What I do think, is that iPhone / iOS sales are still the bread and butter of this new Apple …. Outside the smartphone product and derivative digital services and products the business looks flat, macOS … at instances “poor” for such a company size (Apple TV, HomePod).
Meaning, a break in iPhone sales … s … storm in valuation. But the company has a lot of cash in the bank … so …
Looking foreword to what Apple might bring this year. But the news aren’t really that exciting … will see. 27” iMacs and monitors at over $3000? 24” iMacs that can’t do decent gaming at $1500? Ok we have the Macmini … what else?
To FaceID or not to FaceID on the max this year … that is the question.
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Apple pinched him from Intel so he could work on their CPU's and now Intel has pinched him back again, it's the way of the tech world.
Notice everyone is happy about this.. I am too. This is about time to force intel, AMD, Nvidia (they have an arm cpu that is in development to quote a tech reporter 'its 1000x faster than a xeon server'. ) , Texas, and Samsung. Achieve competition... I love this. Frankly, the M1 & m1 Max is super fast, instant. I am no longer wondering if its fast enough, its INSTANT enough.
I hope this continues.
I hope this continues.
Yeah I thought the same because they mostly use SoC for their integrated Altera line, but it looks like some of their Atom parts are marketed that way too:
Intel Atom® C Processors Series - Microserver Processors
Intel Atom® C processor family for microservers is designed to reduce energy demands, be configured to fit server specs, and built-in security.www.intel.com
Yeah, atom is a special case.
Noone knows for sure, but.....
- Apple did skip the oddnumbered A-chips for the iPP variants
- A15 offers only a mild boost over A14
- A15 is almost half a year old already (and nothing M2 seems to be coming soon)
- If an A15 based M2 had been designed in the same timeframe as the A14 based M1 it wouldn't have made much sense to do the A14 based M1Pro/Max
If you on the other hand start from the assumption of an A16 based M2 everything past and (rumoured) future makes perfect sense.
Exactly. Graphs that chart iPhone performance over the last 6-8 years highlight how amazing consistent the gains were from one phone cpu to the next. Performance started at 40% of relevant Intel mobile chips, but caught up by 2020. So fast forward that trend - in 5-6 years we'll likely see significant increases in performance per core (your iphone cpu observation) combined with increases in number of cores on the Mac cpus.
I think he’s right (though “based on” is wrong language. They use the same cores. It’s just as right to say A16 is based on M2.)
There was a recent rumor about the timing of M2, essentially indicating that the M-series cadence will be longer than the A-series cadence, suggesting that M- will essentially skip A15-cores. This makes sense given that by the time we get M1 Max Duo and M1 Max Quadra for the Mac Pros, and get the new iMacs released, we will be almost to the point where A16 is released.
I just think this is great! After hearing about the anti-poaching agreements that many in business were enforcing years ago, illegally, it's refreshing to see that someone so key to one company has the freedom to move to another company. He still does not have the right to take Apple technology with him, obviously, so I'm sure Apple will be closely watching what he does for Intel, but he *could* change jobs, rather than be forced to stay at Apple, or forced to take a lesser job at a competitor, or an unrelated job somewhere else. Good for him, and the industry.
Employees SHOULD have the ability to move to another job if they feel the need to. Could Apple have retained him? I guess that's on Apple, but *keeping* employees against their will is illegal, and should always have been so.
Employees SHOULD have the ability to move to another job if they feel the need to. Could Apple have retained him? I guess that's on Apple, but *keeping* employees against their will is illegal, and should always have been so.
Literally no one cares that Macs aren't great for gaming, except non-Mac owners. It's as valid an argument as telling a Ferrari owner that their car is sh-t because they can't fit a month's groceries in the trunk. It's technically true but they didn't buy their Ferrari to go grocery shopping.
I caught an article about it yesterday. Couldn't remember if it was still in beta or it was still being worked on. Arm-powered Windows is moving fast. I believe you have to be on Windows 11, they stopped supporting the Windows 10 version (which was appalling) just recently.
As for Windows on M1, I think it's a Microsoft issue with a deal they have with Qualcomm to have Windows exclusive to their Arm chipset. Whenever it expires, I'd imagine Microsoft is going to rework the deal to allow for Windows to be on other Arm-based chipsets, whether it's their chip, AMD, Qualcomm, NVIDIA or whomever. It's probably why we haven't heard too much from the other PC manufacturers on their Windows on Arm offerings yet.
If all competitors are on same TSMC node then design does matter.
Performance will be almost equal assuming same goals. Again, "design" is just marketing fluff and is a pretty easy part of chip development - it's similar to "designing" a pizza at Dominos or Papa John's. The lithography is the most important part of chip performance. Like how a pepperoni pizza at Domino's is different from a pepperoni pizza at Papa John's, the same is true for chip fabrication. Anyone can design a chip. It's the fabrication method that causes differences in performance.
Once the concept, the big breakthrough is discovered, innovation and incremental engineering tends to get the idea and perfect things. If the defecting lead engineer is some kind of true genius or brilliant researcher, he may be able to innovate new and better designs consistently (but R&D is costly and time consuming regardless), and might give Intel a unique advantage. My guess is that there are a lot of skilled innovative people who, starting with the proven M1 technology will help Apple, who will continue to look for and pay the best and brightest, find vastly improved developments within the new architecture and better approaches besides. There is nothing about Intel's acquisition besides the chest thumping and gloating that indicates who will achieve the upper hand in terms of processor power and efficiency going forward. It will remain competitive and the industry back and forth will continue. And as we know, competition is good for the consumer, because it forces companies to continue innovating.
WTF are you smoking because I want some of it. And they say Apple has a distorted reality field...
The stock is max'd out? Really do tell. I am sure the market said the same thing when they hit 1 and then 2 trillion... yeah ok.
Suffer the consequences?? Really and what might that be?
Apple's roadmap for the next several years will already be in place. People in this thread are talking like the last thing he ever did was work on the M1 SoC.
The cognitive dissonance with which people discuss Intel is just incredible. Fastest chips? So what! Top talent moving to Inttel from Apple? So what!
When will people realize that Intel is moving back to its historic place in the industry, and has built in advantages that will keep that position inevitable in all but the shortest term.
When will people realize that Intel is moving back to its historic place in the industry, and has built in advantages that will keep that position inevitable in all but the shortest term.
The big breakthroughs are made my TSMC and ASML, not Apple.
Designing a chip is just stress-testing how well TSMC's process performs and is mostly a cost-benefit analysis, not a technical challenge.
You're putting way too much weight on Apple. It's TSMC and ASML that's doing all the heavy lifting. Apple is just a customer who gets first dips on the latest processes due to volume.
He got a better offer -- CTO at a one of the central players in computing -- and he took it.
I'd be surprised if there weren't a solid set of "What to do if X gets hit by a bus tomorrow" plans in place at Apple for lots of people at that level, and that includes having people ready to step in quickly.
I'd be surprised if there weren't a solid set of "What to do if X gets hit by a bus tomorrow" plans in place at Apple for lots of people at that level, and that includes having people ready to step in quickly.