Key Takeaways of 2018 MacBook Pro vs. 2017 MacBook Pro

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    Apple today introduced new 13-inch and 15-inch MacBook Pro with Touch Bar models, now available to order from its online store.

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    As with any new product launch, there is a wealth of information to sift through, so we've created a list of key takeaways about the 2018 MacBook Pro lineup, particularly as it compares to the 2017 MacBook Pro lineup.
    2018 MacBook Pros feature eighth-generation Intel Core processors. Apple says the 15-inch model is up to 70 percent faster, and the 13-inch model is up to two times faster, than the equivalent 2017 models with seventh-generation Intel Core processors in benchmarks.15-inch models can now be maxed out with a 2.9GHz six-core Core i9 processor, while the previous generation topped out at a 3.1GHz quad-core Core i7. Quad-core 13-inch models with the Touch Bar are now available, up to 2.7GHz, while 2017 models were dual-core up to 3.5GHz.
    15-inch models have much-requested support for up to 32GB of DDR4 RAM, compared to 16GB of LPDDR3 RAM on 2017 models, accommodated by a 10 percent increase in the battery's watt-hour rating. Overall battery life remains up to 10 hours per full charge.
    AMD's Radeon Pro graphics cards now come with 4GB of GDDR5 memory standard on 15-inch models, while 13-inch models now have 128MB of embedded DRAM, compared to 64MB on 2017 models.
    2018 MacBook Pros have an Apple T2 chip with "Hey Siri" support, versus an Apple T1 chip in 2017 models. The T2 chip integrates several previously separate components, including the system management controller, image signal processor, audio controller, and SSD controller.
    Apple now offers doubled SSD storage capacities of up to 2TB for 13-inch models and up to 4TB for 15-inch models, compared to up to 1TB for 13-inch models and up to 2TB for 15-inch models in 2017.
    2018 MacBook Pros now feature True Tone displays, including the Touch Bar, on 13-inch and 15-inch models. Like the latest iPhone and iPad displays, the white balance automatically adjusts to match the color temperature of the light around you for a more natural viewing experience.
    2018 MacBook Pros now feature an "improved third-generation keyboard for quieter typing," but they still use butterfly switches, and it's unclear if the new keyboard addresses the issues with sticky, repeating, or unresponsive keys that prompted Apple's new service program.
    2018 MacBook Pros feature Bluetooth 5.0, up from Bluetooth 4.2. 802.11ac Wi-Fi remains unchanged.
    2018 MacBook Pro models have the same overall design and I/O as their 2017 equivalents, with four Thunderbolt 3 ports, a 3.5mm headphone jack, Space Gray or Silver finishes, and so forth. 13-inch model still weighs three pounds, and 15-inch still weighs four.
    2018 MacBook Pros also have unchanged display resolutions of 2880×1800 for 15-inch models and 2560×1600 for 13-inch models.
    13-inch models start at $1,799 and 15-inch models start at $2,399 in the United States, the same pricing as 2017 models. However, configure-to-order prices top out higher, primarily due to larger storage options.
    13-inch MacBook Pro models without the Touch Bar were not refreshed today.MacRumors will have continued coverage of the new MacBook Pro lineup throughout the week, so keep checking back.

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    Don't forget the same display resolution as the 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, and 2012 Retina models (2560x1600 for the 13" and 2880x1800 for the 15").

    It's sad to have to use a non-native resolution for more screen space on a $2,399+ Mac.
     
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    My key take-away is that I have to sell my already over-mortgaged soul to get one and they will drop support in 6 years or less.
     
  5. jgbr macrumors 6502

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    Meh, Rolling of Eyes and 70% increase, even the PC master race wouldn't dare claim that unless putting a *under certain conditions byline.

    Probably followed by a ** but we can get even more performance for half the price!

    Oh look, mail, word and safari open exactly the same speed. ha!
     
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    If you thought the new MBP would be underwhelming, and it turns out it is, can you still say it's underwhelming as that is what you actually expected?
     
  8. BuddyTronic macrumors 6502a

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    I guess they are not using pure elephant ivory recycled from used domino's for the keyboards now. GOOD!

    I can't wait to get rid of this loud-ass computer. My wife has been going crazy listening to me type for nearly a year now. I hate hate hate this machine.

    My old 2012 unit is still there - I really still miss it - but of course I wouldn't "downgrade" - but sheesh - what a nightmare this keyboard is. I just ordered the new one and the keyboard I hope is quiet.
     
  9. kodos macrumors 6502

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    This is great. I have waited a long time to pull the trigger on a new MBP. Today was the day!
     
  10. bladerunner2000 macrumors 68020

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    When is Apple going to release something people can actually afford?
     
  11. Attonine macrumors 6502a

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    I got my current touchbar 15 last September. I’m sure these new machines are better in many ways, but that price, these get real expensive real fast with a few bto options added. Ouch.
     
  12. BrooksA, Jul 12, 2018
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    Yep, I feel pretty disappointed with my 2016 MBP to be honest and I've dropped it and dented the corner so will have to keep it until it dies.

    I gave it the benefit of the doubt at first as a fanboy but almost two years on I am still using a stupid dongle to attach things to it, the touchbar is a gimmick still, I cry over magsafe and the keyboard is a piece of ****. It could have been so great if they didn't just have to over-Apple it with thinness and no ports. 11inch Air with a retina screen would have been better for me all round.
     
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    We have mid-2010 MBPs and they have struggled over the past year or so.

    Saw the news on the walk into the office and purchased one when the store went live around an hour later.

    My wife wants a MacBook, so I will wait for the next refresh to purchase hers.

    Enjoy, mate.
     
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    iPad at $329

    Also, they aren’t a charity or something, they are a for profit company, and their profit source isn’t selling user data piece by piece to advertisers.
     
  15. Jimmy James macrumors 68040

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    Shamefully, the cheapest Apple laptop with more than one connection port and at least 500GB memory is $2,159 Canadian. And this with the old processor and still limited physical connectivity.
     
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    It would be wonderful if all new MacBooks from this point onwards have True Tone displays
     
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    What you mean? It’s cheaper in price/performance than your laptop. And it’s even cheaper considering inflation.
     
  19. harriska2 macrumors 6502

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    Ewww. Only way to get a quad core 13” is to get the touchbar. Sticking with our 2015 model.
     
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    Wasn't expecting that at all. Looking forward to speed comparisons on youtube.
     
  21. Sunday Ironfoot macrumors regular

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    Looks like the previous model was 1.9 TFLOPS https://www.techwalls.com/radeon-pro-555-560-vs-450-455-460-gpu-macbook-pro/

    Not an earth shattering upgrade. I might wait this one out until next year, external GPUs are expensive and don't work with Windows Bootcamp. Also we should start to see 7nm GPUs next year., so hoping for a bigger GPU upgrade then.
     
  22. jjjoseph macrumors 6502

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    Apple is still trying to push the touchbar as a better keyboard, I feel like Apple gaslighting us. Give me the 15” without a touchbar please.
     
  23. DTECHQUE macrumors member

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    It's funny how a lot of individuals are complaining about the newly released MBP... guess the complaining will never stop - just like their debts.
     
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    Still limited what?

    You can plug multiple GPUs, which can have themselves multiple USB3.0 and Ethernet ports.

    Is that “limited”?
     
  25. JohnnyGo macrumors 6502a

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    It's quite better than I expected for the 13" (and my guess is the folks who were complaining about the 15" got an even better upgrade).

    In summary:
    - Quad-core (vs dual core)
    - True Tone
    - Faster SSD (T2 chip)
    - 20% increase in battery watt-hour capacity (& same weight)
    - faster graphics (128MB of eDRAM vs 64MB)

    Will likely wait for prices to drop a bit and upgrade my 2016 MBP (original butterfly, no problems so far ). My "old" MBP will be handed down to my son who is heading for college and still uses my old MBAir. He will enjoy the Retina display
     

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