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Keyboard: Missing Apple Logo
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hahaha! Next thing you know, people will be calling F3 and F4 the Expose and Dashboard keys... and then in 20 years, people will complain when Apple removes those symbols from the keyboard even though the feature was irrelevant 10 years ago.
-Clive
Steve Jobs Probably Removed It
http://tinyurl.com/ypbooh
Note: the Original Macintosh Keyboard did *not* have the Apple logo on the command key. So, in a way, they're going back to their "roots."
Ultimately, the claim that it's an "end of an era" isn't really accurate. They're just going back to the original.
w00master
http://tinyurl.com/ypbooh
Note: the Original Macintosh Keyboard did *not* have the Apple logo on the command key. So, in a way, they're going back to their "roots."
Ultimately, the claim that it's an "end of an era" isn't really accurate. They're just going back to the original.
w00master
First they drop "Computer" from "Apple Computer Incorporated." Now it's thelogo on the keyboard. Next thing you know, they're gonna stop selling computers altogether and focus on electronic gadgets (i.e. iPhone, iPod, etc.)
Apple still make computes?
Pah, who wants to buy those?
someone should start a business that sells replacement keys so that you can pop it out and put in one with an apple eh eh anyone wanna start a company or something
Maybe these European keyboards have the Apple logo because the Command key would look so empty with just the "POI" symbol on it. If you look at Finnish MacBook keyboard for example, you'll notice that Command and Option keys don't say "command" and "option" they have symbols instead, and Control says just "ctrl". Same thing with Caps Lock and Tab (and Return if I remember correctly).
Agree. For usability, all the modifiers and special keys need to have writing and symbols. (including delete, return, enter, tab) Now why can't the "Command" symbol be changed from the obscure flower thing to the Apple.....? (Windows uses the Windows symbol)
Love the wireless design. Not so happy with the wired design - side view looks horrible with the USB housing not wanting to sit on the desk nicely. Surely a wedge/trapezoid shape would be more functional?
I'd also like backlighting please. Hanging out for aluminium keyboard version 2.
"Open-Apple" was the name of the key since the Apple II. That's the way I learned it 20 years ago and the key on the keyboard never changed so I just kept calling it what it was... the open-apple key. (There was also a "Closed-Apple" key but it died. That's okay. It was confusing.)
So basically anyone who lived, thrived and survived on an Apple II (as I did) calls it the "Open-Apple" key... mainly out of habit more than anything else.
-Clive
He's a newbie because he doesn't know what the open-apple (or for that matter what closed-apple) key is.
When the Apple IIe came out in the early '80s, the keyboard had an open-apple and closed-apple key. That's why it's not a "just apple" key. There was actually and open- and closed-apple key.
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On the Apple Canada website, it has the apple logo on the keyboard, but when you click on the "popup" pictures of the keyboard and it shows "Command"
I grew up with saying "Open Apple". I remember when there was even a "Closed Apple" key on Mac keyboards, looked like this:
I grew up with saying "Open Apple". I remember when there was even a "Closed Apple" key on Mac keyboards, looked like this:
On the Apple Canada website, it has the apple logo on the keyboard, but when you click on the "popup" pictures of the keyboard and it shows "Command"
I grew up with saying "Open Apple". I remember when there was even a "Closed Apple" key on Mac keyboards, looked like this:
the pop-up pictures show the US keyboard no matter which country page you are on.
Now I can tell me girlfriend, "Command-W" without her asking, "Which one is Command again? The Apple?"
someone should start a business that sells replacement keys so that you can pop it out and put in one with an apple eh eh anyone wanna start a company or something
What, and get sued by Apple for using their trademark? No thanks.
The usability has clearly improved and here is why.
1. Keys on the keyboard that have two symbols rather than one are toggled with Shift. Example, to type $ or 4 it's the same key but with a modifier key to get $. Having a key that has two symbols but acts the same is confusing... which brings me to point 2.
2. On windows keyboard there is a windows icon, when you press it it opens the Start (or Windows) menu. On the start menu there is a picture of the windows icon so it makes sense that pressing it would open the menu just as pressing the volume controls toggles the volume. On the apple keyboard, pressing the apple button does NOT open the apple menu in the top left yet the icon is there. So because there are two icons on the key (see point 1) there surely must be a way to press a modifier key and that key and get the apple menu to open. Nope. Again, confusing to some degree.
The keyboard I use (Macally Slimkey) it doesn't have the apple logo anyways, it just has the command glyph. Simple and although the glyph doesn't explain what it does it serves the purpose because menus throughout the system use this glyph so it's obvious to the user to press command + s to save a document.
1. Keys on the keyboard that have two symbols rather than one are toggled with Shift. Example, to type $ or 4 it's the same key but with a modifier key to get $. Having a key that has two symbols but acts the same is confusing... which brings me to point 2.
2. On windows keyboard there is a windows icon, when you press it it opens the Start (or Windows) menu. On the start menu there is a picture of the windows icon so it makes sense that pressing it would open the menu just as pressing the volume controls toggles the volume. On the apple keyboard, pressing the apple button does NOT open the apple menu in the top left yet the icon is there. So because there are two icons on the key (see point 1) there surely must be a way to press a modifier key and that key and get the apple menu to open. Nope. Again, confusing to some degree.
The keyboard I use (Macally Slimkey) it doesn't have the apple logo anyways, it just has the command glyph. Simple and although the glyph doesn't explain what it does it serves the purpose because menus throughout the system use this glyph so it's obvious to the user to press command + s to save a document.
Why do you say "Open-Apple-W"? Does it make you feel hardcore or something? There hasn't been a Closed-Apple on the Mac keyboard for years, so saying Open-Apple is pretty stupid IMO.
Saying "open-apple" is out of (bad) habit. Remember, there are still some of us dinosarus left.
The missing Apple key may actually be present in international versions - after all, Apple's international keyboards have always been different.
In the UK, the MacBook Pro keyboards do not even say "option" (it has the odd 'switch' sign in the menu and "alt" written on it) and the shift key has an outlined up arrow on it.
There are strange icons for buttons like tab, caps lock, enter, return, backspace as well;
although to make things more complicated, control says "ctrl", even though the icon on the menu is a strange up arrow that looks more like the one on the enter key...
Pic of the UK macbook keyboard –– http://www.powerpage.org/images/apple/macbook/macbook-keyboard.jpg
The keyboard on display on the Apple UK Keyboard site is almost certainly NOT the UK keyboard – http://www.apple.com/uk/keyboard – it does not even have the £ sign (the £ replaces # in UK keyboard).
I think Apple has to decide what they want to use – symbols or text? I can imagine Mac newbies being baffled by the US keyboard in that the menu icons show funny symbols, and the only symbol they can find on their keyboard is the cloverleaf for the command key!
In the UK, the MacBook Pro keyboards do not even say "option" (it has the odd 'switch' sign in the menu and "alt" written on it) and the shift key has an outlined up arrow on it.
There are strange icons for buttons like tab, caps lock, enter, return, backspace as well;
although to make things more complicated, control says "ctrl", even though the icon on the menu is a strange up arrow that looks more like the one on the enter key...
Pic of the UK macbook keyboard –– http://www.powerpage.org/images/apple/macbook/macbook-keyboard.jpg
The keyboard on display on the Apple UK Keyboard site is almost certainly NOT the UK keyboard – http://www.apple.com/uk/keyboard – it does not even have the £ sign (the £ replaces # in UK keyboard).
I think Apple has to decide what they want to use – symbols or text? I can imagine Mac newbies being baffled by the US keyboard in that the menu icons show funny symbols, and the only symbol they can find on their keyboard is the cloverleaf for the command key!
I actually know a few people younger than me (26) that say open apple still. It always surprises me a little bit.
The LED is there on the norwegian keyboard.. strange..
hey wait.. that's not a norwegian keyboard. this one has the @ on the 2, while a no-keyboard has it besides "return". So I'm guessing this really is an old revision.. :/ bummer!
No, what's pretty stupid is ever using a DOS-based box. Why did you ever do that? Did it make you feel hardcore?
The real question throughout all this is why do you NOT say "Open-Apple?"
-Clive