Kodak Files New Patent Infringement Lawsuits Against Apple and HTC

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001


    With Kodak on the brink of filing for bankruptcy as it pursues an auction of its patent portfolio in order to remain solvent, the company today announced that it has filed two new lawsuits alleging patent infringement by Apple and HTC.
    The four patents being asserted against Apple include:
    A fifth patent is being asserted only against HTC.

    Kodak first filed a patent infringement suit against Apple in January 2010, also targeting Research in Motion in the same effort. Apple filed a countersuit a few months later in an effort to bolster its position against Kodak.

    With the new lawsuits coming just as Kodak is attempting to stave off bankruptcy, the company appears to be attempting to demonstrate strength in its patent portfolio as it hopes to attract higher bids for its intellectual property. Even if the company is unable to avoid bankruptcy, its patent portfolio is likely to be one of the key assets to be sold off in a court-ordered auction following the bankruptcy filing.

    Article Link: Kodak Files New Patent Infringement Lawsuits Against Apple and HTC
  2. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    Buyout Bait. For years now.

    Get what you can, Kodak. Best of luck.
  3. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Sometimes I swear you're just a "bot" based on your predictable and fortune cookie responses.
  4. xii macrumors newbie

    Aug 10, 2010
  5. ravenvii macrumors 604


    Mar 17, 2004
    Melenkurion Skyweir
    I applaud them on their plan to restructure rather than declare bankruptcy.

    But this suing thing is a bit sad.
  6. Gasu E. macrumors 601

    Gasu E.

    Mar 20, 2004
    Not far from Boston, MA.
    I'm far too lazy to actually look up the patents, but from the title:

    "Capturing Digital Images to be Transferred to an E-Mail Address"

    Wouldn't this be obvious, as in two separate things: "Capturing digial images to a file" combined with "transferring file to an E-mail address"???
  7. Slix macrumors 6502a


    Mar 24, 2010
    I heard the other day that Kodak was losing money. I'm going to guess this is part of the reason why... :rolleyes:
  8. PlaceofDis macrumors Core

    Jan 6, 2004
    i'm guessing they're suing in hopes of either attracting a buyer or to get some money in order to stay afloat. they're a sinking ship, that much is sure.
  9. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    The naming of those patents is so broad. You can describe several (if not all) devices using any sort of communications.
  10. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    What other response could there be?

    Kodak is on the verge of bankruptcy, and in any case they're angling for some extra value (based on patents) before a possible buyout.
  11. jayducharme macrumors 68040


    Jun 22, 2006
    The thick of it
    Since the patent portfolio is up for grabs now, I assume this action might be an attempt to draw attention to that portfolio and find a quick buyer. Kodak at one time was a powerful industry, but the modern world has passed them by. When I was a kid, Kodak was just about the only name you'd associate with photography. Now they're an afterthought.
  12. HyperX13 macrumors 6502

    Sep 3, 2009
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    Kodak is going the way of Kojak!
  13. rmwebs macrumors 68040

    Apr 6, 2007
    Looks like they took a leaf out of Apples book then :rolleyes:
  14. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009

    Apple did the smart thing and hired new management. Apple was not sold off or acquired. The rest is history.
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    BC2009 macrumors 68000


    Jul 1, 2009
    Kodak is such a sad case. Here is a company that practically invented digital photography, but instead of bringing it to consumers, tried to milk the "film-based photography" for as long as possible. Why? Because they believed their "customers" were the drug stores that ran the film developing and they knew that digital photography would upset their best "customers".

    Instead Kodak did nothing in digital for years, completely missed the digital revolution, and now is finally coming across some patents they owned from way back when which they never asserted and trying to go after companies that were actually smart enough to come up with the same things on their own.

    Many of their patents fall in the "obvious" realm and simply need to be challenged and invalidated. The rest of their patents should be purchased and donated to the public domain. Let Kodak go out of business and pay off whatever they can to their creditors.

    Once great company now produces next to nothing and becomes a patent troll -- so sad.
  16. OrganMusic macrumors 6502

    Sep 21, 2008
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    I lived in a suburb of Rochester (where kodak is) in the mid 90s. Such a huge percentage of the area population worked there you almost certainly knew more than one person who did.
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    WiiDSmoker macrumors 65816


    Sep 15, 2009
    Hermitage, TN
    There is ZERO difference between what Kodak is doing and what Apple is doing when it comes to IP lawsuits.
  18. Thunderhawks Suspended

    Feb 17, 2009
    With their ineptness for decades, I am amazed they were smart enough to find their own patents (if they even apply)

    If Apple and HTC drag this out they may be able to buy Kodak for dollar.
    On the other hand this is something Google may buy:)

    PS: When in Rochester visit the Kodak museum. Makes one sad to see what would have been possible with a better management.
  19. thekev macrumors 604


    Aug 5, 2010
    Part of the issue there is that these are very old patents. Today nothing so generic would be approved (at least I would hope not).

    They've made digital camera sensors for years. They produced a 1 megapixel chip in the mid 1980s according to wiki (that part I didn't know). I'm not sure where they fell behind. They have had some of the best chips in the past decade, but in terms of sensors that move in suitable volume, I'm not sure where they stand.

    It happens. Fuji seems to have transitioned pretty well. Both Xerox and Polaroid are still around, but they've been brutalized by transitions and restructuring.
  20. shartypants macrumors 6502a


    Jul 27, 2010
    You shouldn't be allowed to just sell off patents like that. There should be a law that when patents are just sold off like that, they diminish in value by half. Unless you are the original business unit that created the patents because you have real products to protect, you shouldn't be able to enforce the patents. IMO.
  21. blue22 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 15, 2010
    Oh how the once mighty has now fallen...

    This whole bankruptcy with Kodak is actually quite sad to witness :( They were once pioneers, and this shouldn't have been the mess that they found themselves in now. But ultimately a lot of it is of their own doing, unfortunately.

    The University of Rochester touted one of the most impressive and biggest, if not best, Kodak sponsored labs in the country for at least a couple of decades. Unfortunate to see all this infrastructure going the way of the dodo because of their short sightedness with digital film's viability and evolution.

    Yeah, it's pretty neat, definitely a worthy time capsule of history to behold.
  22. apps1991 macrumors newbie


    Jan 10, 2012
  23. george-brooks macrumors 6502a


    Oct 31, 2011
    Brooklyn, NY
    Kodak makes really great products and is a very important company in my life as an analog photographer so I'd really really hate to see them go, but I don't think its wise for them to be going after Apple.
  24. *LTD* macrumors G4


    Feb 5, 2009
    Its a money-grab. It has nothing to do with protecting the integrity of their products, and everything to do with stuffing the pig a little more in the hope someone will want it for dinner (patents).
  25. samcraig macrumors P6

    Jun 22, 2009
    Sorry - whether or not they are going to be bought or whatever - should they not protect their patents just like you assert Apple should protect theirs. You are always one to point out that Apple SHOULD be protecting their IP. Yet Kodak shouldn't? Sorry - doesn't compute.

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