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Kodak Files Patent Infringement Suits Against Apple, Research in Motion
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I love these threads. 70% of posters click on the "negative" button on the front page (why do those even exist?) and post about how any patent against Apple is baseless and just "jealous companies" who can't compete. It's funny, but basically the reason why I am rarely at MR for Mac related discussion anymore; the fanboys have pretty much ended any intelligent discourse.
The MR sub-communities (gaming and photography) plus the Marketplace are about the only parts of the forum worth visiting anymore, imo. That, and the actual news portion of the main page and keynote liveblogging. Didn't used to be that way... anyone have opinions on when the tipping point was around here?
The MR sub-communities (gaming and photography) plus the Marketplace are about the only parts of the forum worth visiting anymore, imo. That, and the actual news portion of the main page and keynote liveblogging. Didn't used to be that way... anyone have opinions on when the tipping point was around here?
Those are completely different cases small white car. Their is no comparison.
Apple markets an image of cool. They have made the computer you own define part of your personal image. This makes people who buy a Mac for those reasons have to defend it at all costs or their image is damaged.
Copyright laws need to be updated to the 21st century. To be granted a patent, companies should be required to give explicit details on how 'x' works or how 'y' interacts with 'z'. The current laws allow vague descriptions open to interpretation. No more of this, "method of previewing pictures", what is this method, describe how it works. These trolls stifle innovation particularly when they depend on stale technologies and everyone else passes them by.
How dare you look at the whole issue with an open and unbiased mind.APPLE & KODAK DO NOT COMPETE???
Kodak says it has licensed digital imaging technology to some 30 companies, including major players like Nokia, Samsung, LG and Motorola, and that all those companies currently pay royalties to Kodak over use of its patented technology.
"Kodak has a long history of digital imaging innovation and we have invested hundreds of millions of dollars creating our industry-leading patent portfolio. In the case of Apple and RIM, we?ve had discussions for years with both companies in an attempt to resolve this issue amicably, and we have not been able to reach a satisfactory agreement. In light of that, we are taking this action to ensure that we protect the interests of our shareholders and the existing licensees of our technology. Our primary interest is not to disrupt the availability of any product but to obtain fair compensation for the use of our technology. There?s a basic issue of fairness that needs to be addressed. Those devices use Kodak technology, and we are merely seeking compensation for the use of our technology in their products
Kodak wants royalties like every other company would if their technology was being used.
Apple would go after someone.
RIM would too.
Kodak just wants what the others are doing. Why is that so hard for a company to do?
Knee-jerk reactions in Apple's favour are what it's all about here!
Not True.
Apple is the only company that runs OS X
Microsoft runs Windows on PCs
and then there is LINUX
People buy Mac because they choose to develop or be apart of a different platform. It's all about choice.
The world would be boring if everything ran Windows.
Good for you, Kodak. Apple certainly guards their intellectual property, and defends its patents (see article below); it's great to see someone turning the screw the other way. It's also kind of ironic that Apple is now the "Big Blue" brute of the 21st century. Remember IBM, Steve? Never assume anything my boy, this aint 1984....
How dare you look at the whole issue with an open and unbiased mind.
Knee-jerk reactions in Apple's favour are what it's all about here!
LOL.... Yeah unheard of huh
Let the Kodak bashing begin.
Yes, other companies make digital cameras...
Maybe they made agreements with others?
No one company has autonomous power over the camera industries.
LOL.... Yeah unheard of huh
You made a good post. I bet the most ravenous of Apple fans will skim it and still manage to bash Kodak for protecting their patents.
Apple don't want to pay Nokia, Apple don't want to pay Kodak.... Such a shame.
Well that was impossible considering that Psystar had only been around for what 3...4 months before Apple sued them. Kodak as been making cameras for many decades and actually pre-dates Apple as a company.
As a matter of course Apple gets sued for all sorts of things on an annual basis. It's actually quite common in business. Doesn't mean anything regrading the validity of claims.
You made a good post. I bet the most ravenous of Apple fans will skim it and still manage to bash Kodak for protecting their patents.
Apple don't want to pay Nokia, Apple don't want to pay Kodak.... Such a shame.
I'm the biggest Apple geek on here probably, but it's obvious Kodak isn't seeking anything un-realistic, and Apple along with RIM were trying to see how long they could get away with this before legal action were to be taken.
This case sounds more like an Apple & RIM ego thing, and a small dose of reality is always needed in those circumstances.
I find it bizarre that so many people take this suit personally. It's just business.
Legally Kodak must defend its patent for it to remain valid. That means it has no choice but to file this suit. But this suit is not about jumping on the Apple or RIM money train. If you read the linked press release here is why Kodak is going forward with the suit:
Kodak has licensed digital imaging technology to approximately 30 companies, including such leading mobile-device companies as LG, Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson, all of which are royalty bearing to Kodak.
If Kodak does not defend its patent then its licensing agreements it has with every other company regarding this technology is in jeopardy of becoming invalid, and then we are talking big bucks.
Legally Kodak must defend its patent for it to remain valid. That means it has no choice but to file this suit. But this suit is not about jumping on the Apple or RIM money train. If you read the linked press release here is why Kodak is going forward with the suit:
Kodak has licensed digital imaging technology to approximately 30 companies, including such leading mobile-device companies as LG, Motorola, Nokia, Samsung, and Sony Ericsson, all of which are royalty bearing to Kodak.
If Kodak does not defend its patent then its licensing agreements it has with every other company regarding this technology is in jeopardy of becoming invalid, and then we are talking big bucks.
I never said everyone. Look at Apple marketing. They market 'cool'. For a lot of people they have bought into the Apple image of cool. They take this and make it a part of their image. These types of people have to defend Apple because they have made owning Apple part of their personal image.
Me, I own a MBP because at the time it was the least bad out of the other options available (even though I still drop keystokes, have had a bad battery and bad video card). When it's time to buy again I'll make another assessment and go from there. A computer is just a tool, not an image.
Completely agreed. I don't think there was a tipping point, but a gradual increase in people new to the Apple ecosystem. I'd guess the per capita number of "believers" is about the same, they've just now overrun the front pages. So people who want to have rational discussions avoid taking part.
