Konami exec. says Metal Gear Solid may go to other consoles

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http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/10/konami-exec-says-metal-gear-solid-may-go-to-other-consoles/

Konami executive Kazumi Kitaue, head of Konami North America and European ops, dropped a bombshell today saying that Metal Gear Solid 4 may move to other consoles in an attempt to recoup development costs. He also said the PS3 price drop may not turn the ship around. The natural assumption, given the console hardware technology, is that Metal Gear Solid 4 will see its day on the Xbox 360, destroying one of the final feathers in Sony's hat of exclusives.

In regards to the PS3 price cut, Kitaue unleashes the backhand with quickness. "I don't expect a substantial impact ... with $500, you can buy a personal computer," Kitaue told Reuters. It's been surprising to see the mainstream media pick up on the $100 price drop without acknowledging that there is a new "better" model at the same price which caused all the calls for a price drop in the first place.

But for gamers, the first acknowledgment that Metal Gear Solid might find its way to other consoles is what's really going to shake things up. Kitaue says, "Since Metal Gear Solid was born for the PlayStation, we would like to keep it a PlayStation game. But we might have to take some steps." Whether those steps are announced this week or if this is some last ditch effort by Konami to force Sony to pony up exclusivity cash, which they say they do not do, is worth wondering about. If MGS goes to the Xbox 360 ... well, all eyes will be on Final Fantasy XIII as the last famous third-party man standing.
No matter what system(s) you are a fan of, you can't argue with the reasoning behind the rumor.

Development costs are skyrocketing and console exclusives just aren't lucrative enough anymore for 3rd party developers.
 

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Don't forget that Konami (and Capcom) have been struggling with their bottom line recently.

Bearing this in mind, it would make sense for them to release their flagship titles on more than one system, be it PS3, PS2, Xbox360, Wii, PC or whatever.
 

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Kojima has already stated that MGS4 is PS3 only, its his studio, he calls the shots and has his own funds.

Keep dreaming.

Ed
 

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Kojima has already stated that MGS4 is PS3 only, its his studio, he calls the shots and has his own funds.

Keep dreaming.

Ed

If the accountants at Konami say that MGS4 is being released on more than one system, then it will be released on more than just the PS3.

And that's a fact!
 

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If the accountants at Konami say that MGS4 is being released on more than one system, then it will be released on more than just the PS3.

And that's a fact!
It's a fact says you? Great, i believe you now! ;)

Konami may publish the game, but Kojima is the studio and they say where it goes. It is a fact that Kojima said it will be PS3 only because neither of the other systems could handle the game. See facts are only facts if you can back them up, search around and you will find the article im talking about.

Or you can just make more assumptions and misrepresent them as facts :p

Ed
 

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Oh come on. It's too obvious it's coming to either the 360 or the PC. Always has done.

How on earth do Konami hope to make a profit on MGS4 if it's being released on just 1, 3rd place console? When you consider that MGS3 is the only MG game to never be released on another console out of, how many games? And that the cost of production for this game is going to be astronomical.

Then the accounts go and say we should expect it on other systems?
Funny thing is. The longer this is in development for the more its going to cost. The more they can't risk a loss on 1 system.

(not that I'd buy it. I'm no MGS fan. I <3 the first and aren't keen on the rest)
 

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It's a fact says you? Great, i believe you now! ;)

Konami may publish the game, but Kojima is the studio and they say where it goes. It is a fact that Kojima said it will be PS3 only because neither of the other systems could handle the game. See facts are only facts if you can back them up, search around and you will find the article im talking about.

Or you can just make more assumptions and misrepresent them as facts :p

Ed
Who makes the game is completely irrelevant. Who OWNS the rights to game are all that matters. I don't know who owns the rights for MGS4, if it's the studio or the publisher. But, that's the deciding factor, not the guy who makes it.

As for no other system being able to handle it... well, we'll see what it looks like, but point out a PS3 game that looks as good as GoW on the 360 let alone better and maybe you'll get some support for that. The only edge that the PS3 has on the 360 is disc size, as far as any real world game performance has shown so far. Maybe MGS4 will be so huge it couldn't possible fit onto DVD9 and would be split onto two discs, but at that point (18gb) I'd be very shocked to see it needing more room unless they're doing a ton of HD FMV, which is stupid anways and cold be compressed with slightly lower resolutions and quality, etc. Two discs would be a hassle, but not a deal breaker.
 

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Who makes the game is completely irrelevant. Who OWNS the rights to game are all that matters. I don't know who owns the rights for MGS4, if it's the studio or the publisher. But, that's the deciding factor, not the guy who makes it.
Exactly. That's how it goes. Whoever actually owns the game can take it to another developer, or middleware company, and ask them to port it. Which confused the hell out of me as a kid, I thought Factor 5 developed R-Type :D
 

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It's a fact says you? Great, i believe you now! ;)

Konami may publish the game, but Kojima is the studio and they say where it goes. It is a fact that Kojima said it will be PS3 only because neither of the other systems could handle the game. See facts are only facts if you can back them up, search around and you will find the article im talking about.

Or you can just make more assumptions and misrepresent them as facts :p

Ed

No, Kojima Studios are the developers. Konami are the publishers (who presumably pay the overheads?), so they decide where the game goes.

Would it be foolish for Konami to tread on the toes of their superstar developer? Absolutely. Is it beyond the realms of possibilty? Not at all.

Is it a fact? Probably! ( ;) )
 

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Ed H, it really sounds like you don't understand how these things work.

Right or wrong, publishers pretty much control what happens, and they are the ones spending most of the money - that gives them the say in these matters.

There are a few companies, like Valve, who can call their own shots (they have Steam, etc) - but I highly doubt Kojima Productions is one of those companies.
 

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Ed H, it really sounds like you don't understand how these things work.

Right or wrong, publishers pretty much control what happens, and they are the ones spending most of the money - that gives them the say in these matters.

There are a few companies, like Valve, who can call their own shots (they have Steam, etc) - but I highly doubt Kojima Productions is one of those companies.
Hao, Kojima calls the shots and has its own bean counters. Maybe you should teach yourself a little something someday ;)

Ed
 

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Hao, Kojima calls the shots and has its own bean counters. Maybe you should teach yourself a little something someday ;)

Ed
Heh, whatever you say. I mean, since you say it, it must be right!

Kojima is an employee of Konami. He was the vice president of KCEJ (Konami Computer Entertainment Japan), a subsidiary of Konami.

KCEJ was turned into "Kojima Productions", so that Hideo himself wouldn't have to mess around with the business/management side and focus on developing games.

So now he has more time for games, but the business side of things he isn't even in charge of. Now how can you "call the shots" if that isn't your position? He's still Konami's employee, they still pay the money, he makes the games - Konami decides the business moves, such as platform.
 

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You know though, didn't the guy in charge or developing Resident Evil 4 originally say that RE4 was going to stay exclusive as well?

I have no doubt it'll be exclusive for PS3 for now, but I think sooner or later we're goning to see it somewhere else.
 

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Heh, whatever you say. I mean, since you say it, it must be right!

Kojima is an employee of Konami. He was the vice president of KCEJ (Konami Computer Entertainment Japan), a subsidiary of Konami.

KCEJ was turned into "Kojima Productions", so that Hideo himself wouldn't have to mess around with the business/management side and focus on developing games.

So now he has more time for games, but the business side of things he isn't even in charge of. Now how can you "call the shots" if that isn't your position? He's still Konami's employee, they still pay the money, he makes the games - Konami decides the business moves, such as platform.
Whatever makes you sleep better ;)
 

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I'm sure MGS4 will port over to the 360 but I don't think it will at the same time as for the PS3. Just as I see Bioshock coming over to the PS3 maybe next year the same goes here....but by that time I'll already flip over MGS4 twice.




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It's a fact says you? Great, i believe you now! ;)

Konami may publish the game, but Kojima is the studio and they say where it goes. It is a fact that Kojima said it will be PS3 only because neither of the other systems could handle the game. See facts are only facts if you can back them up, search around and you will find the article im talking about.

Or you can just make more assumptions and misrepresent them as facts :p

Ed

And really, who do you think tells the accountant that the game is coming to XBox 360? Hmmm...I'd guess Kojima.
 

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buwhahahahahahaha.......


As Ed already stated - MGS4 is confirmed PS3 exclusive. This comment was not from the Japan studio, but from their NA counterpart, and if it does go to "other" platforms, it will be a new title or a spin-off(or a very long timed-exclusive). I highly doubt he is talking about MGS4, but MGS in general. ;)
 

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Kojima has already stated that MGS4 is PS3 only
Mikami also said RE4 would not appear on any other consoles than Gamecube or he'd chop his own head off.

Funny how times change...:rolleyes:
and AFAIK, his head's still intact. :p

Kojima has no say where the game is published. If he's so adamant about it, he'd cease developing the game now and cut his losses. Of course he wouldn't get paid and the game would never see the light of day.

buwhahahahahahaha.......

As Ed already stated - MGS4 is confirmed PS3 exclusive. This comment was not from the Japan studio, but from their NA counterpart, and if it does go to "other" platforms, it will be a new title or a spin-off(or a very long timed-exclusive). I highly doubt he is talking about MGS4, but MGS in general. ;)
Just like Devil May Cry 4, Assassin's Creed and Virtua Fighter 5 were Ps3 exclusives. :p

Sorry to both of you...wake up and smell the coffee. Any third party title anymore is not a guaranteed exclusive. In-house, ok. I don't expect to see Dave Jaffe demoing God of War 3 on the 360 or Bungie showing Halo 3 on the Ps3. But come on already. :rolleyes: All the "guaranteed exclusives" have went out the window and are no longer "guaranteed". The only one left is Final Fantasy, and even that one's in question.
 

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It's like being on vacation in Egypt round here.

I see a lot of people in d'nile ;):D
 

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...because swapping discs is so horrendously bad and ruins the experience, doesn't it? :p

LOL :rolleyes:
whatever helps you sleep at night, knowing that the Ps3 is closer to losing another exclusive ;)
 

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tries to find old jpeg with MGS4 for 360 image
(showing a 20 dvd set.....lol)
It's probably next to the quote that each level of Lair takes 9GB and that all PS3 games will require huge storage space.....

And we have to remember BluRay will not result in developers filling it with just cheesy extra content to bump up the disc usuage at all will it.....

But oh wait... what about Warhawk being downloadable, and the only benefit of buying it on disc is loads of making of movies filling the disc....

mmmmmm.

Seriously WHO CARES if MGS4 goes Multiplatform. People need to get off their high horses. At the end of the day this makes financial sense for konami especially considering the poor sales of ps3 in Japan so far.
Kojima wants his gme to be a commercial success, for that he needs multiplatform.
 

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Whats the reall sense of it....MS lost a lot of "exclusive" too but I hear nothing about it...it makes sense for games to go this route but being smart biz players Sony and MS will pay a little extra to keep the software a timed exclusive.

I see no problem here....I still rather MGS on the PS3 and thats what I'll buy it for...more money for them...more gaming for me.



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