This thread has gone in different directions.
But the “never happened to me” or “I’m not sick” or the Apple Communities common “mine works fine must be you” really upsets me.
And this post is insensitive.
I never had fraud until my identity was stolen. Four years of hell.
Just you wait.
I used it at Harris Teeter in Charlotte. Didn’t even dawn on me they didn’t have it until the PR came out.
We shop at Kroger weekly whose POS and card readers are right out of 1989.
Yea, we just started putting our phone number in so we didn’t need to carry a cardWe have a store like that here.
Every time I go in, I get a new card. It holds the line up while they muck around with it.
I dump it in the trash can on the way out.
Mostly here but some don't do contactless. LJSilvers still doesn't take the chip. And there's still cavemen who don't take cards at all.Doesn't every debit card checkout terminal have a contactless payment pad on the top or side in the US? Or are there stores that don't even offer debit card payment??
Over here in the Netherlands I even pay at a vending machine or a street vendor with my iPhone. Heck, I've even seen churches in France where you can pay for candles with your phone!
Same as lines being long. Talk to a MANAGER! We don't do the schedule or decide the payment types. And why are you here EVERY NIGHT AGAIN!? Go to another store if you don' like it.I have a part time gig at Walmart the amount of abuse that is directed towards the cashiers and self checkout attendants about not having Apple Pay, Google pay and tap to pay are huge.
I pretty much always put in the number at Giant because the code in the app barely ever scans.Yea, we just started putting our phone number in so we didn’t need to carry a card
Walmart is a holdout because they have their own Walmart pay thing in their app. They don’t want to pay processing fees to Apple when they can encourage people to use their own system.Agreed! Walmart needs it desperately. Not sure what's taking so long for them. Let’s not forget Sam’s club.
Again, merchants don't pay Apple anything for Apple Pay. Walmart just wants to be able to track customers across visits.Walmart is a holdout because they have their own Walmart pay thing in their app. They don’t want to pay processing fees to Apple when they can encourage people to use their own system.
Cause he can write down the info and use it later online.I dunno why people are so fixated on where a waiter runs the card.
That’s exactly what I said above.Walmart is a holdout because they have their own Walmart pay thing in their app. They don’t want to pay processing fees to Apple when they can encourage people to use their own system.
How would they know my zip code?Cause he can write down the info and use it later online.
I agree with your larger point, but a zip code isn't hard to find, or even guess if you're dining locally.How would they know my zip code?
Walmart is a holdout because they have their own Walmart pay thing in their app. They don’t want to pay processing fees to Apple when they can encourage people to use their own system.
That’s exactly what I said above.
I’ve worked with them for years - even shoving Woodforest Bank down our throats - and they want every sliver of every penny for themselves.
(In a customer base that is extremely skewed towards low net worth)
We’ve heard that rumor. Some actually think it’s a good thing. I really hope it is not true. I can see most every bank or store pull out of Wallet / ApplePay and force use of an app. By and large the apps are bloated and just bad. And it is no where as convenient and lifting your wrist and double clicking the side button. There would need to be some HUGE benefits offered to get me to pull out my phone, open the store / bank app, put it in “pay mode”, and tap.I believe that iOS 17.0 will allow third parties to access the NFC functionality of the iPhone without needing Apple Pay. That could open the door for Home Depot, Lowe's, Menards, Walmart and even WinCo to accept NFC payments using a specific app not tied to Apple Pay.
There is no ApplePay system. It is just NFC contactless payment. When NFC and ApplePay were new places had to do extra work to not allow ApplePay while still accepting NFC cards. Probably something like reading the wallet header vs a bank card hearder in the transaction.The companies I mentioned still don't have NFC compliant terminals (for the most part). They'll all switch over to start using NFC terminals, in my opinion, once they can use it for non-contact payments without going through the Apple Pay system.
I admit I’ve opened the Starbucks app to pay, though that was several years ago when I was going there several times a week primarily to see how close I was to a free beverage/food item. Since then, though, it’s wallet all the time every time on my iPhone.How many people have a Starbucks card and do not put it in the Wallet? Who really does the open phone, open app, select “pay in store”, scan barcode vs double click phone or watch, swipe to Starbucks card, scan?
I did not realize that. If that be the case, then merchants would be foolish to not accept Apple Pay since they will make more money by doing so. Every transaction that uses Apple Pay will net the merchant more $ since they won’t be paying the 3% or whatever processing fee that is paid to accept cards. I don’t use Apple Pay since my bank can’t be added. Maybe eventually….They wouldn’t pay any fees to Apple anyway: Apple doesn’t charge merchants any processing fees, that’s a widespread myth. Apple only charges the banks a fee for letting their customers add their cards to wallet; they don’t deal with merchants at all.
The merchant still pays the same credit card fees whether you use Apple Pay or your credit card directly. The poster you responded to simply said Apple doesn't charge merchants. The credit card companies still do.I did not realize that. If that be the case, then merchants would be foolish to not accept Apple Pay since they will make more money by doing so. Every transaction that uses Apple Pay will net the merchant more $ since they won’t be paying the 3% or whatever processing fee that is paid to accept cards. I don’t use Apple Pay since my bank can’t be added. Maybe eventually….
Ahhhhh…I guess it doesn’t matter that I can’t use Apple Pay then. I try to always use cash at local / small businesses for the very reason that it gives them more $. Bigger / chain companies I figure it doesn’t matter as much.The merchant still pays the same credit card fees whether you use Apple Pay or your credit card directly. The poster you responded to simply said Apple doesn't charge merchants. The credit card companies still do.
That’s kind of you, and I try to do the same for small local businesses. These are frequent stops so the owners/workers and I develop a relationship over time treating me like a real person. The chains could care less about me other than for my money and to sell my acquired demographic data. And I care equally about them.Ahhhhh…I guess it doesn’t matter that I can’t use Apple Pay then. I try to always use cash at local / small businesses for the very reason that it gives them more $. Bigger / chain companies I figure it doesn’t matter as much.