Kuo: 2019 iPhones Can Wirelessly Charge Other Devices, Feature Frosted Glass and Larger Batteries, and More

[I7guy]

Nope.



LG V20
Motorola E5 Play
Samsung J7 Duo
LG K8
Motorola G5
Samsung XCover 4
LG V10

This is a slim list of phones release at the end of 2017 and throughout 2018 that have replaceable batteries.



Read it long ago.


https://www.nber.org/

Go find the report yourself and read it.


No. You have no grounds to debate this on. Apple never offered a replaceable battery in their phones. Their iPod Touch. Apple has gone to great lengths to limit the user replacebility of components in any of their products. Have you written sweeping posts about those problems, too?

To me, you're just posting and rebutting with your personal thoughts just to air your personal thoughts, and pushing people to say something they shouldn't say.



It costs me $50 to have my S9's battery replaced with a genuine Samsung li-on battery made for my S9. Service takes an hour tops. $50 to extend a phone's useful life by another 2-3 years isn't a big price to pay. I'm sorry you feel differently. Try two paper cups and string. No battery to worry about!

Not going to cover this opinion piece point by point, but suffice it to say I disagree with the entire post. You are just posting opinions and your post comes across as disingenuous. A chasm in our respective though processes. Such is life and YMMV.

That "list" is low end phones that probably don't sell. Not being available on the largest US network says a lot, coupled with many having lcd screens. Although I grant you one can replace the battery, if one wants to buy said phones.

• lgv20 -lcd
• motorola e5 play - low end specs
• j7 duo -reviews at the page says not worth it
• lg kb - not even available on verizon
• motorola g5 - not available on verizon
• samsung xcover - no verizon lcd
• lg v10 not available on verizon lcd

How about some higher-end phones that are in the price range of any of the recent iphones? Probably not, methinks.

And one internet blog does not a "fact" make.

And for the record I had the battery in my 6s and 7 replaced for free by Apple, but that has little do with any of this.

 

[0388631]

Disagree with the entire post. Such is life.

Of course it is. You disagree with anything that you can't win on fact.

That "list" is low end phones that probably don't sell. Not being available on the largest US network says a lot, coupled with many having lcd screens. Although I grant you one can replace the battery, if one wants to buy said phones.

You ASKED for phones. Not high end flagships. Be specific next time. Stop making excuses.

The XR has an LCD. It's a cheap iPhone.

• lgv20 -lcd

• motorola e5 play - low end specs

• j7 duo -reviews at the page says not worth it

• lg kb - not even available on verizon

• motorola g5 - not available on verizon

• samsung xcover - no verizon lcd

• lg v10 not available on verizon lcd

Stop nit picking. You asked for a list of phones. You never asked for a list of phones that are flagships and have the same feature parity of the iPhones XS and XR. You only did so below.

How about some higher-end phones that are in the price range of any of the recent iphones? Probably not, methinks.

Show you what? Replaceable batteries ARE CHEAP TO REPLACE. They extend the useful life of a phone. It isn't my fault or the OEMs fault you don't want to pay $50 for a new battery.

And one internet blog does not a "fact" make.

What internet blog? What the heck are you talking about? Did you even read anything? I don't think you did.


Buddy, just give up. You're repeatedly pushing posts that make little sense given the current market for devices. None user-replaceable batteries aren't a new trend. And the Android OEMs started doing in the early 2010s.

It isn't my fault or the OEMs fault that you don't like what's going on. If you don't, that's fine. Buy a sat phone and use that. But don't complain about how current devices are designed. Battery replacement to give new life to a $900 device is amazing and a bargain, especially when you only need it every 3 years, four years if you don't use the phone much.


You're argument has no meat to it in this day and age.

 

[sigurros]

I'm hoping this is sarcasm. Assuming these prediction are accurate, there is nothing exciting about the 2019 iPhones. They would need to drop the price, add USB-C, fast-as-TouchID Face ID, and a smaller notch to get me to bite.

Spot on! I still have my rock solid 6s and will wait another year until this happens. It’s pathetic there still is no USB-C, at Higher prices and inadequate battery life.

 

[H818H]

Headphone jack back please. No sale without one.

- I don't want to subscribe to AirPods.
- I don't want flimsy dongles.
- I want one pair of headphones between apple devices. You know, like how it used to be. Better.
- Don't preach to me about a wireless future - it's meaningless marketing BS. Wires will always exist. Always.

Headphone jacks don't stop any wireless fans having their fun.

 

[I7guy]

Of course it is. You disagree with anything that you can't win on fact.

You haven't presented any facts, only some low end phones and opinions.

The XR has an LCD. It's a cheap iPhone.

A "cheap" phone with high-end internals and available on Verizon. And btw, the lcd on the Xr is considered to be the best lcd on a smartphone. Apple LCDs scored higher than some oled panels. So much for cheap.

Stop nit picking. You asked for a list of phones. You never asked for a list of phones that are flagships and have the same feature parity of the iPhones XS and XR. You only did so below.

It's a list of low-end phones with low-end specs. I'm sure someone is buying them, but not one of them is in the price range of a mid to upper tier phone. That says a lot.

What internet blog? What the heck are you talking about? Did you even read anything? I don't think you did.

If you read the blog this was in 2016 the release of the iphone 7. 2 years later one can buy an iphone for dirt cheap. that study may have been valid for 2016 with about a 30% chance of being incorrect according to them, but 2018-2019. The landscape has significantly changed as far as the models and pricing tiers of the iphones. It's true the App store does a good business, but it may be because people view Apple as a known, stable commodity where if they spend the dollars on an app, the developer may be around for a while.

Buddy, just give up. You're repeatedly pushing posts that make little sense given the current market for devices. None user-replaceable batteries aren't a new trend. And the Android OEMs started doing in the early 2010s.

There is nothing to give up here, "buddy". My clunky blackberry had a user replaceable battery and I wish the iphone had one, but no top tier phones have one.

It isn't my fault or the OEMs fault that you don't like what's going on. If you don't, that's fine. Buy a sat phone and use that. But don't complain about how current devices are designed. Battery replacement to give new life to a $900 device is amazing and a bargain, especially when you only need it every 3 years, four years if you don't use the phone much.

I like how the current iphones are designed. You want a top tier phone, you get one without a replaceable battery. Want a replaceable battery, the list is slim and half aren't even supported on Verizon.

 

[0388631]

You haven't presented any facts, only some low end phones and opinions.

I presented facts. You asked for phones. I delivered. You weren't specific what type of phones you wanted.

A "cheap" phone with high-end internals and available on Verizon.

As opposed to current flagship Androids with low end internals? It's a cheap iPhone compared to the current iPhone spectrum. Verizon is a major carrier, but their service isn't amazing all over. ATT is a huge carrier, I don't see you complaining about them. Not everyone likes Verizon.

It's a list of low-end phones with low-end specs. I'm sure someone is buying them, but not one of them is in the price range of a mid to upper tier phone. That says a lot.

You asked for phones with replacable li-on batteries. You did not ask for high end flagships. High end flagships ditched replaceable batteries four years and more ago. That says a lot about you keeping up with the news.

If you read the blog this was in 2016 the release of the iphone 7. 2 years later one can buy an iphone for dirt cheap. that study may have been valid for 2016 with about a 30% chance of being incorrect according to them, but 2018-2019. The landscape has significantly changed as far as the models and pricing tiers of the iphones. It's true the App store does a good business, but it may be because people view Apple as a known, stable commodity where if they spend the dollars on an app, the developer may be around for a while.

What? iPhones continue to get more and more expensive with each model generation. If it were true then, then it's true now. Even other Apple products get expensive with each revisions. What are you talking about?

Even some car marques have done research. Porsche has no plans on bringing Android Auto in their cars because their internal research has dictated their customer base, which is typically high income, is overwhelmingly Apple product owners.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/porsche-will-offer-android-auto-in-the-near-future/

There is nothing to give up here, "buddy". My clunky blackberry had a user replaceable battery and I wish the iphone had one, but no top tier phones have one.

When was this Blackberry used? 2013? The Q10 came out then. It was the last Blackberry I recall having a removable battery.

2013 was 6 years ago. That's a helluva long time in tech. I have no idea why you're hyper focused on a practice that's been dead for years.

I like how the current iphones are designed. You want a top tier phone, you get one without a replaceable battery. Want a replaceable battery, the list is slim and half aren't even supported on Verizon.

But why do you want a top tier phone that has a user replaceable battery which you won't need to replace if you only keep phones for a year or two?


Soon all mid-range phones will become sealed. It's already happening. Soon all low-end phones will be sealed, too.

 

[I7guy]

I presented facts. You asked for phones. I delivered. You weren't specific what type of phones you wanted.


As opposed to current flagship Androids with low end internals? It's a cheap iPhone compared to the current iPhone spectrum. Verizon is a major carrier, but their service isn't amazing all over. ATT is a huge carrier, I don't see you complaining about them. Not everyone likes Verizon.



You asked for phones with replacable li-on batteries. You did not ask for high end flagships. High end flagships ditched replaceable batteries four years and more ago. That says a lot about you keeping up with the news.




What? iPhones continue to get more and more expensive with each model generation. If it were true then, then it's true now. Even other Apple products get expensive with each revisions. What are you talking about?

Even some car marques have done research. Porsche has no plans on bringing Android Auto in their cars because their internal research has dictated their customer base, which is typically high income, is overwhelmingly Apple product owners.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/porsche-will-offer-android-auto-in-the-near-future/


When was this Blackberry used? 2013? The Q10 came out then. It was the last Blackberry I recall having a removable battery.

2013 was 6 years ago. That's a helluva long time in tech. I have no idea why you're hyper focused on a practice that's been dead for years.



But why do you want a top tier phone that has a user replaceable battery which you won't need to replace if you only keep phones for a year or two?


Soon all mid-range phones will become sealed. It's already happening. Soon all low-end phones will be sealed, too.

All of this stuff: Porsches (with carplay), wealth, user replaceable batteries, etc, is all on the periphery of the main topic, which is 2019 iphone rumors. I'm going to politely bow out of this sub-discussion (maybe more labeled a passionate disagreement) and get back on the main topic, which is to say there will be MWC coming up followed by ios 13, followed by the Sept reveal. Hopefully it will be an exciting few months of interesting innovation in the otherwise mature mobile phone market.

 

[0388631]

All of this stuff: Porsches (with carplay), wealth, user replaceable batteries, etc, is all on the periphery of the main topic, which is 2019 iphone rumors. I'm going to politely bow out of this sub-discussion (maybe more labeled a passionate disagreement) and get back on the main topic, which is to say there will be MWC coming up followed by ios 13, followed by the Sept reveal. Hopefully it will be an exciting few months of interesting innovation in the otherwise mature mobile phone market.

I'm only waiting for the Mac Pro. I lost out on the chance to buy a bunch of 5,1s for cheap just after their last update and thought nothing of it. Yeah, it'll be expensive, but anything to get away from the MBP problems before they erupt.

iOS 13 should be the bees knees. I'm waiting for Android Q myself. I'll skip out on Pie for now. I do think (in another thread) that Apple is working on an iOS successor as is Google on Fuchsia. We've reached an era of refinement in SoC and until the next great thing comes out, there needs to be refinement or total rewrites of mobile OSs to be lighter, compact, faster and more efficient in some areas.

 

[cmaier]

I'm only waiting for the Mac Pro. I lost out on the chance to buy a bunch of 5,1s for cheap just after their last update and thought nothing of it. Yeah, it'll be expensive, but anything to get away from the MBP problems before they erupt.

iOS 13 should be the bees knees. I'm waiting for Android Q myself. I'll skip out on Pie for now. I do think (in another thread) that Apple is working on an iOS successor as is Google on Fuchsia. We've reached an era of refinement in SoC and until the next great thing comes out, there needs to be refinement or total rewrites of mobile OSs to be lighter, compact, faster and more efficient in some areas.

iOS is in a much better place than android in that regard. I don’t think they are seriously looking for a successor to iOS per se, but are working on a way to make iOS work on the entire range of computing devices. Remember that iOS, macOS, Apple Watch, Apple TV, etc. all share a decent amount of code. Now they are working on making it easier to adapt third party ux/ui code from device to device.

 

[0388631]

iOS is in a much better place than android in that regard. I don’t think they are seriously looking for a successor to iOS per se, but are working on a way to make iOS work on the entire range of computing devices. Remember that iOS, macOS, Apple Watch, Apple TV, etc. all share a decent amount of code. Now they are working on making it easier to adapt third party ux/ui code from device to device.

It could always be faster. There are ways to do OTA stuff with Android but it's been developed in such a way from the start that it makes it difficult. I believe the rumors surrounding Fuchsia being developed to be a successor and resolve those problems and introduce a faster base mobile OS are true to an extent.

While iOS is plenty fast, I'm sure there's a lot of legacy code that hampers its performance. I think the main issue for either company are users being able to use legacy apps or carry them over until the apps themselves have been rewritten or use a fast enough intermediary.

 

[cmaier]

It could always be faster. There are ways to do OTA stuff with Android but it's been developed in such a way from the start that it makes it difficult. I believe the rumors surrounding Fuchsia being developed to be a successor and resolve those problems and introduce a faster base mobile OS are true to an extent.

While iOS is plenty fast, I'm sure there's a lot of legacy code that hampers its performance. I think the main issue for either company are users being able to use legacy apps or carry them over until the apps themselves have been rewritten or use a fast enough intermediary.

True that it could always be faster, but the iOS architecture is such that it’s much cleaner than its contemporary competitors. It was architected well from the start, at least for use on devices like iPhones. As they bolt new sdks back on to grapple with keyboard/trackpad-type devices, we will see how it holds up. But the fact that it can hit massive refresh rates, has very low latency for things like audio processing, etc., and that it continues to blow away android competitors in speed tests, bodes well.

 

[0388631]

True that it could always be faster, but the iOS architecture is such that it’s much cleaner than its contemporary competitors. It was architected well from the start, at least for use on devices like iPhones. As they bolt new sdks back on to grapple with keyboard/trackpad-type devices, we will see how it holds up. But the fact that it can hit massive refresh rates, has very low latency for things like audio processing, etc., and that it continues to blow away android competitors in speed tests, bodes well.

Speed tests are fairly synthetic in nature. One of the issues is the In day to day use, I see little difference in performance between my GS9 and the missus's XS Max. The real main gripe with Android is the reliance on QC SoC. It's likely the reason Google has been poaching QC, Apple, Intel, NVidia, etc. engineers for the last five years. Google already uses some of their own chips in their Pixel line, probably as a test bed.

In terms of speed tests, it's a bit like an SSD. High write and read speeds, but those tests are based on a set file size in a specific manner. Once real world use comes into play, those numbers are still fast but not what they were benched at. NVME simply allows more throughput loss to occur and still be faster than a regular m.2 connection or SATAIII.

2280 is the typical size. Old 2280 vs NVME in 2280 is a huge difference.

 

[Tech198]

I guess that could be handy...Each device can charge one another...

Apple gives us convenience, and opens a window at the same time,

 

[nia820]

Still not enough for me to upgrade in 2019.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Still think apple big steps this year will be software

Hoping spilt screen multitasking and always on display arrives in IOS 13

I would even just take split screen at this point and a change to the home screen layout.

To be honest the always on display I would only find useful if it could be customised in the way you can do it on Samsung phones and I don’t think Apple would do that at the start. If it’s just going to be the time and the date it’s not really worth it.

 

[Ubuntu]

Charge other devices? Like reverse charging AirPods? Gee, I wonder what other company revealed they were doing that not long ago and is due to release those products in a few weeks.

I guess Apple came out with it first.
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You're a crawfish. You lot always bite.




But what? Surely you're wrong, friend. In a few months time, we'll be told by some members that Apple thought of this themselves. And that Samsung copied Apple.
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It should. The frosting shouldn't be the level of a bottle of Grey Goose, but somewhere close while preserving the color of the device.

Would you really expect much else from an Apple forum? I think it's common for fans of a product/company to ignore facts that don't make their chosen company look as amazing as they see it. Not sure why you'd make a big deal out of it.

 

[Shanghaichica]

I think it’s because of the hit to battery life that always-on would cause.

At most it drains 1% every hour. It’s not a lot. Some are more efficient than this.

 

[Steve121178]

Headphone jack back please. No sale without one.

- I don't want to subscribe to AirPods.
- I don't want flimsy dongles.
- I want one pair of headphones between apple devices. You know, like how it used to be. Better.
- Don't preach to me about a wireless future - it's meaningless marketing BS. Wires will always exist. Always.

Headphone jacks don't stop any wireless fans having their fun.

Headphone jack is dead, we don't want it. Getting rid of it also allowed Apple to seal the device which helps in making the device more resistant to the elements, namely water. Wireless audio is the standard for now and the future. Get with the times or carry on enjoying your old cans & phones.

 

[Shanghaichica]

Headphone jack is dead, we don't want it. Getting rid of it also allowed Apple to seal the device which helps in making the device more resistant to the elements, namely water. Wireless audio is the standard for now and the future. Get with the times or carry on enjoying your old cans & phones.

Why does Apple need to remove the headphone jack to make phone water resistant? Samsung phones are water resistant and up until he Xs had a higher resistance rating than the iPhone. Yet they have a headphone jack. I still see plenty of people on my commute in London using wired headphones so I wouldn’t say wireless is standard. You can still use wireless headphones if the jack is still there.

 

[Steve121178]

Why does Apple need to remove the headphone jack to make phone water resistant? Samsung phones are water resistant and up until he Xs had a higher resistance rating than the iPhone. Yet they have a headphone jack. I still see plenty of people on my commute in London using wired headphones so I wouldn’t say wireless is standard. You can still use wireless headphones if the jack is still there.

People still use wired headphone as they haven't got the latest iPhone or Android flagship that has ditched it or some people choose to use their old wired headphones with the lightning to 3.5mm dongle.

 

[The Game 161]

I would even just take split screen at this point and a change to the home screen layout.

To be honest the always on display I would only find useful if it could be customised in the way you can do it on Samsung phones and I don’t think Apple would do that at the start. If it’s just going to be the time and the date it’s not really worth it.

True, dark mode as only feature wouldn’t be enough for me

New layout, spilt screen is needed

 

[juiz206]

seems like an "iPhone 7 upgrade" . The 3 year major update is real guys.

Keeping my iPhone 6 for another year. Waiting the notch to go away.

 

[revjoel]

Seems like Apple might emphasize the battery life improvements this generation. They can't have the XR being the iPhone with the best battery life. And a significant improvement in battery life might be enough to win a lot of people over, at least until the 2020 5G model.

I would think they would have to especially if you're going to charge another device using power from your phone. I would, personally, never do this as battery life has never been that great on my 7+.

 

[cmaier]

I would think they would have to especially if you're going to charge another device using power from your phone. I would, personally, never do this as battery life has never been that great on my 7+.

I think the point may be more that you can do it when your phone is plugged in. Plug in your phone and use it to wirelessly charge AirPods or Apple Watch. Would mean fewer wires to carry around, especially when traveling, those small devices would charge relatively quickly, and you wouldn’t have to worry about draining your phone.

 

[IRockThat828pScreen]

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