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Still think apple big steps this year will be software

Hoping spilt screen multitasking and always on display arrives in IOS 13
 
That’s right, pivot to another argument now that you lost the first.

And that Xr screen still looks better and more color accurate than most modern phones.

I agree with you on the quality of the screen as I prefer LED over OLED screens, I don't think they're quite ready for prime time yet. But, it absolutely is a valid point that less battery draw will subjectively affect user perception and objectively affect the battery cycle of the device.
 
RE: "As for changes to expect in 2019, Kuo says the iPhone XR successor may be upgraded to 4GB of RAM,"

That's a definite !

If they don't, it's a MAJOR class action lawsuit that will cost AAPL hundreds of Billions of dollars in market cap !

Furthermore, I believe there is a very good chance that AAPL offers ALL existing XR owners, as well as those who purchase before Sept 2019, a low-cost Trade-in upgrade to the 4 GB model in Sept.

What are you on buddy? LOL. Which real world user cares about the RAM of an iPhone?
 
Yeah, I thought Apple was leading the smartphone industry and everybody was following, what happen? why are they copying Android phones now?
Bigger batteries, triple cameras, frosted glass backs, reverse wireless charging. Those are some
blatant copies.
Wow, they copied a bigger battery. OMG, shame on you apple. They copied a multiple lens. BAD APPLE. Yep those are some blatant examples of Apple blatantly copying what Samsung is not blatantly copying.;)
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I can't blame people for not getting it. It isn't exactly the clearest concept to understand because at first you're thinking "What's the difference?"

It's a huge thing, IMO. And we're going to see more than just phones and earbuds/headphones in the future. I can see computer mice and keyboards getting the ability. I wouldn't be surprised if Corsair is working on one since they were the first of the computer companies to make a Qi mousepad.

Qi wattage varies on the pad/charger, but I think it's a happy medium between low watt wall chargers and fast chargers. Of course, it depends on how much wattage each phone can take in Qi form. The iPhones at the moment are limited to 7.5 watts, which isn't bad if you put it next to you at work or at home.

The fast chargers are worrying. I find the Samsung made ones good enough. However, One Plus and Huawei are hitting about 22.5-24 watts at the moment on their fast charge systems. That's a little too much heat in too short a time, IMO.
Like the wifi chips and usb these things will be just another piece of hardware but if the devices they charge do not have user replaceable li-ion batteries, they will be tossed.
 
Like the wifi chips and usb these things will be just another piece of hardware but if the devices they charge do not have user replaceable li-ion batteries, they will be tossed.
Your point being? This is how tech culture has been moving. There's a lot more devices out there now that don't have user replaceable batteries. Battery degradation isn't as quick as you make it out to be. Your argument is effectively saying "What's the point of fast chargers if users can't replace batteries when they go bad?" Except they can. The iPhone has never had a user replaceable battery. Flagships from other OEMs generally don't have user replaceable batteries. Even mid-range phones are starting to come out without user replaceable batteries.

This isn't a new trend. You come across as a worry wart. "Oh, let's not use this new open standard because our batteries will die quicker!"

A battery change at an Apple store is $70 for the newer models, and $50 for the older ones. I'm sure iPhone owners can afford that bill. Air Pods cost $50 per bud to replace the battery. $70 out of warranty. Each.

You're beating a dead horse with useless talking points that went the way of the Dodo bird back several years ago.
 
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No, it's bigger. Most people still don't know that batteries gets smaller every time they are is recharged. A fact glossed over by everyone who sells anything containing a battery.
Li-on batteries aren't new. Most people know how they behave. They've been used in consumer tech for over two decades.

If the stock phone charger in an iPhone uses 5 watts, the Qi charge uses 7.5 watts, but the fancier Apple charger uses 12 watts, and most people opt for the 12 watt charger, do you not think the Qi poses less battery degradation through charge cycles?

I've been using Qi on my GS9 for a long while now. No battery degradation. If it isn't in my hand or pocket, it's sitting on the pad(s).
 
Your point being? This is how tech culture has been moving. There's a lot more devices out there now that don't have user replaceable batteries. Battery degradation isn't as quick as you make it out to be. Your argument is effectively saying "What's the point of fast chargers if users can't replace batteries when they go bad?" Except they can. The iPhone has never had a user replaceable battery. Flagships from other OEMs generally don't have user replaceable batteries. Even mid-range phones are starting to come out without user replaceable batteries.
You ask what the point is and then you fully understand what the point is?[

This isn't a new trend. You come across as a worry wart. "Oh, let's not use this new open standard because our batteries will die quicker!"
Little personal insult never hurt any discussion, eh? People are bemoaning replacing an airpod in two years. Imagine throwing out your other rechargeable accessories because you can't replace the battery. I don't want to throw my mouse out because it has a non-replaceable li-ion battery. Airpods I'm willing to put up with, because I don't think something that compact can be manufactured with a replaceable battery.

A battery change at an Apple store is $70 for the newer models, and $50 for the older ones. I'm sure iPhone owners can afford that bill.
Playing with other peoples money?

Air Pods cost $50 per bud to replace the battery. $70 out of warranty. Each.
And there is some bemoaning about this on the forums. You can read it yourself.

You're beating a dead horse with useless talking points that went the way of the Dodo bird back several years ago.
It's a dead horse to but it must be because at some level I am correct about this.
 
Little personal insult never hurt any discussion, eh? People are bemoaning replacing an airpod in two years. Imagine throwing out your other rechargeable accessories because you can't replace the battery. I don't want to throw my mouse out because it has a non-replaceable li-ion battery

That's not a personal insult.

Non-replaceable li-on in mice isn't as common as it once was. Replacement was dead simple, though. Remove the teflon feet, unscrew, pop off top shell, replace battery. No soldering required, it clipped into the board. Also, mice use very little battery power. They don't die faster or at the same pace as other batteries in other products.

I have a Logitech G700 from 2011. I use it daily and charge it when it needs to. To this day, its battery have only negligibly gotten "smaller." Obviously, this is Logitech, the company who'll send out a new device free of charge as long as you send in your old one. Their battery powered keyboards are the same. Though they last longer.

Playing with other peoples money?

No. It's the fact touted by some very vocal Apple fans. That Apple customers have more disposable income and can buy without worrying.

Of course, the reality is most Apple consumers aren't and weren't buying all new products each year.

It's a dead horse to but it must be because at some level I am correct about this.

You are, but you're focusing on an issue that's already a problem and has been for 30 years.


Air Power will be limited to delivering a steady 7.5 watts. I don't recall the watts rating for the chargers that come with phones in the box. Apple's fast chargers start at 18 watts. That is more detrimental to the phone's battery than low watt Qi charging. Heat and excessive power kills batteries.
 
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That's not a personal insult.
Yes it was and always better off not discussing posters in negative light. It doesn't lead to anything good on these forums.

Non-replaceable li-on in mice isn't as common as it once was. Replacement was dead simple, though. Remove the teflon feet, unscrew, pop off top shell, replace battery. No soldering required, it clipped into the board. Also, mice use very little battery power. They don't die faster or at the same pace as other batteries in other products.
I was using that as an example. If many accessories are going to have wireless charging, I'm betting between the coil and battery the unit will be sealed. Could be wrong, but we'll see.

I have a Logitech G700 from 2011. I use it daily and charge it when it needs to. To this day, its battery have only negligibly gotten "smaller." Obviously, this is Logitech, the company who'll send out a new device free of charge as long as you send in your old one. Their battery powered keyboards are the same. Though they last longer.
You unit probably has a nimh battery.

No. It's the fact touted by some very vocal Apple fans. That Apple customers have more disposable income and can buy without worrying.
Of course, you know exactly what's in every pocketbook of the "vocal apple fans". Admit it, it was a hyperbolic remark.

Of course, the reality is most Apple consumers aren't and weren't buying all new products each year.
I don't know how you know what most apple consumers are buying or not buying.

You are, but you're focusing on an issue that's already a problem and has been for 30 years.
The dead horse is making the rounds. Let me know when you want to hand him off to me.:rolleyes:
 
Yes it was and always better off not discussing posters in negative light. It doesn't lead to anything good on these forums.

No, it wasn't. The end.

I was using that as an example. If many accessories are going to have wireless charging, I'm betting between the coil and battery the unit will be sealed. Could be wrong, but we'll see.

The coil is wrapped around on the back of the phones. The Samsung Galaxy S6 and newer have it. For example, the iPhone X's coil is a separate piece of hardware that's enclosed.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+X+Teardown/98975

You can find the coil in the same manner at the bottom of this for the XS Max.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+XS+and+XS+Max+Teardown/113021

Battery and coil are never integrated as one. Coil is enclosed and delivers power to the board which moves power to the battery. It isn't connected directly to the battery. In the same manner, your charger doesn't deliver power straight to the battery; it goes through the board.

You unit probably has a nimh battery.

It does, but I'm illustrating a fact. A li-on device like a mouse or keyboard won't eat through battery life if it's being charged all the time.

Li-on batteries don't take in excess charge. They shut off the ability to charge once they're at capacity. Sonicare toothbrushes use li-on batteries. They get partial drain 3-4 times a day and back onto the charger they go. They last for years.


Heat kills batteries more. The more watts pumping through, the faster your battery expectancy will go down over other methods.

Here's a decent thread to get an idea.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ttery-health-after-one-year-of-usage.2145841/

Of course, you know exactly what's in every pocketbook of the "vocal apple fans". Admit it, it was a hyperbolic remark.

Query the words "disposable income" and "Apple owners" and you'll see this is not something I came up with myself. It's a fact touted by people on this site, too. You can even query against the site by using "site:forums.macrumors.com."

http://macdailynews.com/2018/07/09/owning-an-iphone-is-the-most-common-sign-of-wealth/


The dead horse is making the rounds. Let me know when you want to hand him off to me.:rolleyes:

I'll take it once you realize you had no argument from the get-go and you have a habit of getting it into with people and being wrong.
 
Some day wireless charging will have couple feet range... One could top off apple watch and AirPods from the iPhone that is in the pocket. And all 3 can charge from the charger plugged in the outlet, for example by the night stand
 
Have we not learned from the iPhone 6/6S/7? Apple reuses the body for 3 years now. Speed update in year 2, minor finish change in year 3 but it’s the same basic design. They aren’t going to change plugs, screens, basic shape etc. It costs Apple BILLIONS to design a new iPhone so they get their money out of that R&D for 3 years.

The next “exciting” iPhone will be 2020, it will be speed bumped in 2021, get a minor facelift in 2022 and repeat...
 
No, it wasn't. The end.
Basically was an ad-hom.

The coil is wrapped around on the back of the phones. The Samsung Galaxy S6 and newer have it. For example, the iPhone X's coil is a separate piece of hardware that's enclosed.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+X+Teardown/98975

You can find the coil in the same manner at the bottom of this for the XS Max.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+XS+and+XS+Max+Teardown/113021

Battery and coil are never integrated as one. Coil is enclosed and delivers power to the board which moves power to the battery. It isn't connected directly to the battery. In the same manner, your charger doesn't deliver power straight to the battery; it goes through the board.
Can you name any li-ion rechargeable consumer phone from the major manufacturers that have a user replaceable battery?

It does, but I'm illustrating a fact. A li-on device like a mouse or keyboard won't eat through battery life if it's being charged all the time.


Li-on batteries don't take in excess charge. They shut off the ability to charge once they're at capacity. Sonicare toothbrushes use li-on batteries. They get partial drain 3-4 times a day and back onto the charger they go. They last for years.


Heat kills batteries more. The more watts pumping through, the faster your battery expectancy will go down over other methods.

Here's a decent thread to get an idea.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ttery-health-after-one-year-of-usage.2145841/
https://batteryuniversity.com/

Excellent site for information on batteries, since you mentioned heat and all.


Query the words "disposable income" and "Apple owners" and you'll see this is not something I came up with myself. It's a fact touted by people on this site, too. You can even query against the site by using "site:forums.macrumors.com."

http://macdailynews.com/2018/07/09/owning-an-iphone-is-the-most-common-sign-of-wealth/
All sorts of good conjectures and andecdotal information come from a google search.

I'll take it once you realize you had no argument from the get-go and you have a habit of getting it into with people and being wrong.
Taking about the subject matter and not the poster is always the way to avoid the mod hammer. But's that is just my friendly advice.
 
Basically was an ad-hom.

Nope.

Can you name any li-ion rechargeable consumer phone from the major manufacturers that have a user replaceable battery?

LG V20
Motorola E5 Play
Samsung J7 Duo
LG K8
Motorola G5
Samsung XCover 4
LG V10

This is a slim list of phones release at the end of 2017 and throughout 2018 that have replaceable batteries.

Excellent site for information on batteries, since you mentioned heat and all.

Read it long ago.

All sorts of good conjectures and andecdotal information come from a google search.
https://www.nber.org/

Go find the report yourself and read it.
Taking about the subject matter and not the poster is always the way to avoid the mod hammer. But's that is just my friendly advice.

No. You have no grounds to debate this on. Apple never offered a replaceable battery in their phones. Their iPod Touch. Apple has gone to great lengths to limit the user replacebility of components in any of their products. Have you written sweeping posts about those problems, too?

To me, you're just posting and rebutting with your personal thoughts just to air your personal thoughts, and pushing people to say something they shouldn't say.



It costs me $50 to have my S9's battery replaced with a genuine Samsung li-on battery made for my S9. Service takes an hour tops. $50 to extend a phone's useful life by another 2-3 years isn't a big price to pay. I'm sorry you feel differently. Try two paper cups and string. No battery to worry about!
 
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