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Seems about right.
And that is with a PSU and cooling solution that is overkill for the M1.
Put an MxPro into it and things might get somewhat cramped again.

It seems that M2 will be a fall thing, so no M2Pro before 2023 seems about right.
And if that happens, they may move to an external power supply before they change the size of the enclosure.
 
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There's nothing in the top half of that picture except for the oversized fan and part of the power supply. Using the iMac 24" external power adapter, it could be 1/3 the size. Making it "only" half sized would be child's play for Apple.
Not to argue but the claim was it was 1/2 empty. That is not the case. What Apple does in the future, they will do.
 
There's nothing in the top half of that picture except for the oversized fan and part of the power supply. Using the iMac 24" external power adapter, it could be 1/3 the size. Making it "only" half sized would be child's play for Apple.
So you make the Mini smaller by moving half the volume out into another box? I think 1+1 still equals 2.
 
There's nothing at all wrong with the Mac mini's design. I'd actually like to see it a little smaller, but it doesn't need to be much smaller. Something more akin to the size of the Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny's would be sweet.
 
Disagree…I think we’re getting a two year cycle from here on out. The mini is priced reasonably enough for Apple to make a profit on them now and with the engineering in-house and not dependent on Intel, this is an important cog in Apple’s consumer lineup.

I agree with you. In fact, I think we’ll see the Mac mini get updated at least with each iteration of the base M? chip because why not?

The Mac mini has an odd history because it was designed to be the low cost entry point for switchers, then the niche machine, then the cheap one again (2012-2018). It was always lesser and ignored with no clear place in modern Apple.

Now with Apple Silicon and the state of the iMac I think that mini has found its place again in the low to mid end Mac desktop crowd and, if it gets an M2 or M2 Pro with 32GB of RAM, a deemed replacement for the 27” iMac.
 
I think Apple has always liked the Mac mini server hosting companies and they have existing racks for the minis. As long as the mini stays the same form factor, the server hosting companies can buy and swap in new minis easy. Add in that making the flat desktop computer smaller is very unlikely to actually leave you with space on your desk that is really going to be all that more useful, there isn't much to be gained by going smaller. Certainly there is nearly nothing to be gained by making the mini half an inch shorter. Keep the space and make sure there is plenty of room for cooling.

Also, the computer looks great the way it is. I think it is a good idea to basically keep it looking the same. Though a couple of color options wouldn't be a bad idea.

The Studio is more computer than I need, so I will continue to hold onto my excellent 2018 mini. But I think the next mini will be the upgrade for me. If that a year from now, so be it.
 
Maybe Apple's crack engineering design team are busy on the iMac Pro for next year and they have to leave the Mac mini for another generation at least?

In all seriousness, perhaps forthcoming price increases due to transport costs have forced Apple to abandon work on investing in the next mini to improve profit margins?

Certainly sticking with the same case enables them to offer the M1 Pro if they wanted to - it'll only have one more Thunderbolt port as with the 14" MacBook Pro
 
Good cooling means that nothing throttles even under full load after a long time and ideally the computer remains quiet at good temperatures. This requires a suitable cooling system.
M1 has been passively cooled. In modded cases and MacBooks Airs. Even compared to the MacBook Pro 13" with active cooling, the difference has been found negligible.

That said, even an actively cooled M1 Mac mini could do just as well in a smaller form factor.
 
M1 has been passively cooled. In modded cases and MacBooks Airs. Even compared to the MacBook Pro 13" with active cooling, the difference has been found negligible.

That said, even an actively cooled M1 Mac mini could do just as well in a smaller form factor.
Yeah but Apple want people to have a good experience, perhaps with a mini that is silent in the current case with the M1. Smaller case = potentially less airflow, running hotter and maybe noise that will annoy customers.
 
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It would be quite boring if the next mini has the same design. Apple is working on the next generation mini, I would say it will be different. ?️
 
The small white light should go vertical/horizontal center of the front, massive update.
 

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Apple is going very anti-Apple in terms of strategy. Instead of a few well-thought products, they are just spraying things all over the place with no consistency.
 
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Is this Apple’s most enduring design?

I mean I can’t really think of a good reason to change it. If they stick an M1 Pro in there, the space will be put to better use with the extra cooling, and maybe a front facing USB-C port and SD card reader.
 
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What is wrong with the current Mac mini?
In three words, Lack Of Ports.

Make it have the same ports as the low end Studio, and then it will be good. 2 USB 3 and a SD card slot on the from, and 2 USB 3 and four thunderbolt 4 on the back and we are good. And the HDMI and ethernet of course.

Actually two Thunder bolts, 2 USB C and the two USB 3 on the back would do it, along with the front ports. The point is you should need a thunderbolt hub to make the machine useful. It's a desktop, it's supposed to connect to things.
 
In three words, Lack Of Ports.

Make it have the same ports as the low end Studio, and then it will be good. 2 USB 3 and a SD card slot on the from, and 2 USB 3 and four thunderbolt 4 on the back and we are good. And the HDMI and ethernet of course.

Actually two Thunder bolts, 2 USB C and the two USB 3 on the back would do it, along with the front ports. The point is you should need a thunderbolt hub to make the machine useful. It's a desktop, it's supposed to connect to things.

I don’t think the current selection is too bad. It already has Ethernet (1 or 10GBe) and an HDMI port for a 4K60 display, plus using Bluetooth for mouse and keyboard, so four ports for data is perfectly usable.

If you’re using a Thunderbolt Display it’s likely you have a few extra USB ports on a built-in hub too (my ASUS PA32UC gives me two USB ports plus a Thunderbolt 3 pass through).

I’d expect if they add the M1 Pro to the Mac mini that it will pickup at least a couple of extra USB-C ports (or maybe TB4).
 
Considering how much the M1/Apple Silicon is energy efficient in comparison to Intel; Apple could really reduce the size of the Mini a bit more. I played around with one at the Apple store last week and I was surprised how big it feels in comparison to the Dell Optiplex 7090 SFFs we use at work.
 
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