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There‘s a huge performance and fictional support gap between the current M1 Mac Mini and the Mac Studio that’s screaming to be filled. The Intel Mac Mini is, for all practical purposes, already beyond EOL. For a Desktop, the size and power consumption of the computer is almost entirely irrelevant. Upgradeability of memory or SSD would be far more relevant. Until the Mac Studio, I would have considered Graphics processing far more important. With Ultra tech, that is now questionable.
 
gap between the current M1 Mac Mini and the Mac Studio that’s screaming to be filled.

In the past there have been gaps much bigger some even for over a decade while other products overlapped so much that one made no sense at all.

Studio is placed in that big gap between the Mini and MPro (maybe trending a bit to the higher side) while the iMac now ends far lower than it ever did for the past 12 years (give or take).
 
So you make the Mini smaller by moving half the volume out into another box? I think 1+1 still equals 2.
No. They could make it half the size with an internal power supply. There's enough volume if they don't use an old parts bin fan and heat sink. What I said is that they could easily do it (child's play) with an external power supply. They could make it a third of the size (with an external power supply) if they tried a little. All that said: the iMac power supply isn't half the size of a Mac mini, so you need to check your math.
 
While I ordered a Mac Studio to replace my high-end 2018 Intel Mac Mini, A new chassis with the plexiglass top would be nice for the internal antennas. The amount of Bluetooth and wifi issues I have on this Intel Mini is too much, one of the reasons why I have to move on. Also, it runs too hot for my studio. Wouldn’t plexiglass on top be great for the antenna radios?
 
I don’t mind that at all. To me the insides and the connections is what’s most important. And I guess it will help keep the price low, using an old design.
 
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While I ordered a Mac Studio to replace my high-end 2018 Intel Mac Mini, A new chassis with the plexiglass top would be nice for the internal antennas. The amount of Bluetooth and wifi issues I have on this Intel Mini is too much, one of the reasons why I have to move on. Also, it runs too hot for my studio. Wouldn’t plexiglass on top be great for the antenna radios?
I agree on the connection issues, they at least have to fix that if they stick with the old design. Perhaps the size will stay the same, but with the rumored plexiglass top for better wireless throughput and stability.
 
If you look at the memory use details you’ll probably see some webpages that are consuming multiple GB. MacRumors forum is one of those where it slowly allocates more memory over time and you need to occasionally close the tab to clear it up.
Yep there are web pages that are problematic. Question is, should the browser or MacOS ideally have some configuration settings that puts limits on how much memory will be allocated? Candidly, I find this issue to be a huge oversight on Apple's part.
 
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Apple is being lazy about the progression of design if this is true. Not good. Current Mac mini replacing the elegant iMacs? What a down grade!

Can they cram a M1 Max into a 14 inch laptop, the mini is plenty big. Passively cooled M1/Pro would be amazing progression of the mini. Another idea would be if it had exactly the same foot print as the foot of the Studio display so it can be "hidden" visually on/at the foot.

I think the studio has an uninspiring design. Just boring. The reason is that it is just a Mac mini extruded with some vent holes.
Yes, this is more of a "Mini Pro" with the height of the case increased. I find it rather sad that the space is for their blower system. In 2022 one would think that "innovation" also would come with methods of cooling and that the space in that case could have perhaps gone into housing additional drives. In fact, if Apple made a "cartridge" to hold approved SSD drives that could be slot inserted, that would have been a popular item. When they think "less is more" what Apple interpret that to mean is that less is available in the computer and more has to be added externally. Bad show.
 
I find it hard to believe that shortly after introducing their new badass Mac Studio with M1 Max and Ultra, that Apple would out-class it just a few months later with a less expensive Mac mini with an M2.
If Apple introduces a new Mini or iMac in June, I bet it will be a M1 Max, plus, ultra, etc and not an M2.
 
Like many others here my issue is with ram. 16Gb is just not enough for a workflow which involves editing and content generation work across multiple Word documents, a spreadsheet or two, half a dozen browser windows each with a half dozen tabs and email etc. A mini with 32gb or 64gb would be ideal, it doesn't need extreme processing power, just more legroom. I don't need a studio, I need a mini with more ram.
 
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I find it hard to believe that shortly after introducing their new badass Mac Studio with M1 Max and Ultra, that Apple would out-class it just a few months later with a less expensive Mac mini with an M2.
I've recently said it elsewhere: The number denotes the generation of CPUs - whereas Max and Ultra is the performance differentiator. An M2 processor will inevitably come out sooner or later - but it's not going to bei faster than Max or Ultra first-generation SoCs.
If Apple introduces a new Mini or iMac in June, I bet it will be a M1 Max, plus, ultra, etc and not an M2.
I guarantee you it wouldn't be an M1 Max or Ultra in a "Mini" format.
They introduced such "mini" Macs with M1 Max and Ultra Macs literally days ago.
 
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A new design would be welcome but really what I care about is getting an M1 Pro in there!
Or at least an M2, I hope they release a new mini soon, I’m debating about a studio vs a mini and I wont make that choice until the mini is refreshed
 
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I don't really care how it looks, as long as it has the latest proccesors and auxiliary computer outputs. Ive got a Mac mini M1 and I love it. I will never get a iMac again although I have enjoyed using one for the past 10 years. To me a computer has to be extremly functional and the looks are incidental.
 
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Really, you think this looks 1/2 empty?

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I mean, compared to the hardware the chassis was originally designed for, it is indeed quite empty. A more compact design is definitely possible. That being said, the current design doesn't look all that dated and Apple probably wants to save on tooling costs.

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In the past there have been gaps much bigger some even for over a decade while other products overlapped so much that one made no sense at all.

Studio is placed in that big gap between the Mini and MPro (maybe trending a bit to the higher side) while the iMac now ends far lower than it ever did for the past 12 years (give or take).
They have a ongoing glaring overlap with the base 13-inch Pro and the Air.

The base two-port Pro has always been an oddity in the lineup, both from a capability and naming perspective.
 
I find it hard to believe that shortly after introducing their new badass Mac Studio with M1 Max and Ultra, that Apple would out-class it just a few months later with a less expensive Mac mini with an M2.
If Apple introduces a new Mini or iMac in June, I bet it will be a M1 Max, plus, ultra, etc and not an M2.
I think there is a general misconception about how CPUs work. A quad core CPU with 2 memory channels and 8 GPU cores will not and in no scenario "outclass" the previous gen architecture with 8 cores, 4 memory channels and 32 GPU cores. That we had this crazy jump in perf/watt with the M1 is a one-time thing that will not repeat. Since, no, Apple will no change the ISA again, at least not for at least a decade, and even then I cannot see them ever buying other people's chips again, unless there is some as of today completely unforeseeable Gutenberg-Event fundamentally changing computing as we know it (no, not quantum computing, jesus).

Even if we graciously expect the M2 to be based on A16, and A16 to be on TSMC N4, and that process advantages together with incremental gen-over-gen-over-gen (A14 -> A16) improvements add up to a phenomenal 25%, and since we are really believing in unicorns we expect the same for the GPU.... even then someone who bought an M1 Max machine because it offered something they actually "required" will find no suitable alternative in a machine with an M2 quad core CPU and 8 core GPU - that also has half the memory, half the accelerators and half the IO.

The M2 will be snappier in single core, it will be somewhat more power efficient (which is an afterthought on the desktop), and it will perform better compared to an actual M1, yes. But all of those things do not matter if you needed an M1 Max (or, lo and behold the Ultra) in the first place.
 
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Yep there are web pages that are problematic. Question is, should the browser or MacOS ideally have some configuration settings that puts limits on how much memory will be allocated? Candidly, I find this issue to be a huge oversight on Apple's part.
Perhaps, but it happens in all browsers. You can check Activity Monitor and see if any of the websites are using a large amount of memory. then close that process or close that tab.
 
I don’t agree, given it’s $2000 entry price point. There is room for an intermediate product between the M1 Mini ant the Studio with better Monitor support and 2-3 TB4 ports.
The mini is the intermediate product. If you want entry level get an iPad.
 
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Perhaps, but it happens in all browsers. You can check Activity Monitor and see if any of the websites are using a large amount of memory. then close that process or close that tab.
Well again, should those making the browsers be held accountable or Apple's MacOS for letting this happen? It is to the point of ridiculous. As a few mentioned, Mac Rumors itself can take up a lot of RAM.
 
Well again, should those making the browsers be held accountable or Apple's MacOS for letting this happen? It is to the point of ridiculous. As a few mentioned, Mac Rumors itself can take up a lot of RAM.
MacOS is not at fault. If macOS would start limiting how much ram any given process can allocate...... that would cause real issues, not just for browsers.

But also the browsers are (not really) at fault here. If browsers blocked all ridiculously ineffective code and borderline stalker-level tracking practices that all contribute to this problem the internet would break and people would blame the browser for it - so they don't. It would require a coordinated effort from Google, Apple and Mozilla to effectively fight this.
 
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