I still use my original.....really, the first one, iPad in the kitchen to keep recipes on. It works just fine for that and is much more efficient to organize, find, and read than my old recipe books and recipe card holder.
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Kuo: 2024 MacBooks and iPads to Feature 3nm Chips, But Demand Might Fall Below Expectations
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Agreed, although I went from the M1 to the M2 MBA and don't regret it for a second. The M1 (I gave it to my daughter) now feels positively chunky after using this slim beauty.
And I DO notice the difference in screen brightness from the M1.
All that said, it'll be at least ten years (or it's death) before I replace this thing again.
Let’s not give Apple any ideas like the M1 was “too good..”
Already noticed FCP performance issues when upgrading my very expensive M1 MacBook Pro 2021 to macOS Sonoma….
There always customers who upgrade because they want the latest and greatest. Probably the majority of users upgrade when they had their Mac for a good number of years to justify the high cost. I would guess that the average Mac consumer replaces or buys a Mac on average 3-5 years. Apple knows this and is why the supported longevity of a Mac version is what it is.
It looks like the “hype” of Apple silicon first response wave is dying down, so probably we can expect a once a year CPU update yearly cycle going forward.
It will be interesting to see who is correct on the rumor treadmill, Kuo or Gurman.
Each “say” different things about predicting when the 3mn comes out. We will see what happens in October..that should determine who is just “saying” stuff to keep their band going or who has become a has-been.
Each “say” different things about predicting when the 3mn comes out. We will see what happens in October..that should determine who is just “saying” stuff to keep their band going or who has become a has-been.
256GB should be base for non pro, 512GB for pro mobile devices.
512GB for non pro and 1TB for pro computing.
And going from 1TB to 2TB shouldn’t be so expensive either.
I have a 13" M1 air and like it a lot. I bought it back when the 15" air did not exist and whose design I love. It's a fanless laptop, so I want all of the thermal improvements that will come with the M3. So I will be one of the folks that will upgrade the minute they come out.
But for most people, I just don't see them getting excited over like 10-15% performance in terms of shelling out thousands for a new machine.
But for most people, I just don't see them getting excited over like 10-15% performance in terms of shelling out thousands for a new machine.
All data from respectable sources suggest inflation has steadied in the US without a whiff of a recession, and the economic recovery and rebalancing both in the US and in several developed economies are progressing fine.
And they shouldn't, as it most likely will make either no difference, or so little a difference as to be moot!!!
I'm a geek, but I don't even care about that. I see a lot of people that seem to care around here, but I'm a different kind of geek I guess.
Consumer debt isn’t looking too great too me. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CCLACBW027SBOG
Neither does personal savings rate
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Nor rent for primary residence in urban areas
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Make no mistake, people are getting squeezed left and right. You may be technically right that inflation is cooling and recession is being avoided, but the data doesn’t fully capture what’s actually going on. We are teetering on the brink in many ways.
The OS is the biggest impediment to reducing latency. MacOS has all sorts of things going on all the time. That's why Sonoma has a game mode, but I don't even think that would be good enough for audio mixing.
To get latency as close to 0 as you can, you either need a realtime OS (marginal), or dedicated hardware that does nothing else.
So Kuo is just saying next year’s feature bumps aren’t as desirable as last year’s? Well, color me surprised… a lot of the switchers attracted by “cool, quiet, fast, long battery life” have switched, and now they’re all set to enjoy their devices for a few years.
Hey there, good question! Ram is important for mixing large projects, but single core speed is what matters for reducing latency during real-time recording. Many will argue to use direct monitoring, but to free a person up from a racks worth of gear, I prefer to use software plug-ins. Plus, I find that inspiration and creative choices can come from using EFX, so I don’t like to turn them off, such as singing dry with direct monitoring.
As far as RAM, I had 64 GB on my 2019 i9 Intel, and it stunk. Using a M1 Air, however, with 16gb was amazing. I’ve found that 24 GB of RAM works like a charm for me.
Except every other REAL way of measuring economic recovery is absolutely in the gutter. Americans are way worse off now and the longer we continue what we’re doing the worse it gets. Gas is still over double what it was 3 years ago (pre-COVID), groceries are at least 50% more expensive, rent is nearly double, mortgages and interest rates are astronomical compared to pre-COVID. That all amounts to people feeling less comfortable spending money on luxury items. The policies made by current administration in the US are indefensible. They clearly haven’t worked. Forget the disastrous border policy, Ukraine policy etc, it all amounts to people feeling less comfortable buying new things, so maybe they keep their phone longer, laptop longer, etc.
Look at net incomes. Stagnating. People can't afford to just buy fancy stuff or things too expensive. This is why more budget friendly stuff like iPhone SE, Mac mini or iMac are exactly the right thing to do and keep in the Apple portfolio.
I didn't go quite that far, but I finally replaced my Mid 2012 15" cMBP with a M2Max (lower tier) 64GB RAM, and 2TB 16" back in January. I wanted 4TB, but just wasn't willing to spend that much. I only skipped the M1 gen because I generally like to wait one gen after huge changes for big problems to be sorted, but the M1 range ended up being pretty solid. I'm hoping to keep this new MBP for at least 6 years, would prefer to get another 10 out of it like I did my old one.
M2 is based on the same core architecture as the A15, not A16. A16 was a one off on 4 nm, Macs will jump from 5 to 3, skipping it entirely.
M3 will be either based on A17 or on a different new design made specifically for N3E.
~20% would be a realistic but conservative estimate.
It's not even about can or can't.
Macs and iPads have always had longer upgrade cycles for most people. They don't even have actual cycles, they just get used until they develop issues or get noticeably slow.
It's going to take years until M1 devices start feeling slow, especially for casual users, which is probably most M1 MacBook Air and almost all iPad customers.
Honestly, even for a lot of professional users M1 is plenty fast, the 8 GB of RAM are far more of a concern here than actual processing power.
Seeing as nothing has been announced, I don't see how you can be so confident...
Well said.
They have removed me totally.
I use a Hack and buy my phones and iPads preowned, where someone else took a bath on it
I would argue that certain design decisions and quality issues have diminished the overall value proposition for Mac laptops versus the past. I owned a 2021 MacBook Pro (14", M1 Pro) for about a year before ultimately selling it and reverting to my older Apple machines. The primary factor was that I experienced moderate to severe eye strain with it (I am not generally an eye strain sufferer, but after extensive research the issue seems to be the display panel backlights or GPU driver issues such as harsh/aggressive temporal dithering). There are many similar reports about people suffering eye strain from modern Apple products including MacBooks, iPhones, iPads, etc.
There are a plethora of other concerns about modern MacBooks, such as cracking display flex cables (YouTuber Hugh Jeffreys did a video touching on this I believe, and the only remedy appears to be a full display assembly replacement, which you can't even do yourself without desoldering/resoldering an IC from the board), the soldered-on/non-upgradeable storage, the gimmicky oversized display notch, the fact that you can't even power it off to clean it (it basically turns back on whenever you touch it), etc. Then, at the end of the day, you will have minimal support for extending the life of the machine by running alternative operating systems once Apple no longer provides system updates, as all components are proprietary and driver support must be reverse-engineered (thankfully, the Asahi Linux team is working on this).
Apple products used to be known for their premium quality, longevity, and high degree of polish/refinement. Unfortunately, customer trust is difficult to earn and easy to lose, especially when your customer wastes several thousand dollars and spends months dealing with vision illness from using your products.
There are a plethora of other concerns about modern MacBooks, such as cracking display flex cables (YouTuber Hugh Jeffreys did a video touching on this I believe, and the only remedy appears to be a full display assembly replacement, which you can't even do yourself without desoldering/resoldering an IC from the board), the soldered-on/non-upgradeable storage, the gimmicky oversized display notch, the fact that you can't even power it off to clean it (it basically turns back on whenever you touch it), etc. Then, at the end of the day, you will have minimal support for extending the life of the machine by running alternative operating systems once Apple no longer provides system updates, as all components are proprietary and driver support must be reverse-engineered (thankfully, the Asahi Linux team is working on this).
Apple products used to be known for their premium quality, longevity, and high degree of polish/refinement. Unfortunately, customer trust is difficult to earn and easy to lose, especially when your customer wastes several thousand dollars and spends months dealing with vision illness from using your products.