Kuo: All Three iPhones Coming in 2020 Will Support 5G

fiveainone

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It’s a shame we have to wait another yr for what should happen this yr.

2019 iPhones are just going to be a rehash of the same design just better camera features.

2020 iPhones are the ones everyone will want.

It sucks for people on iPhone 6 6s 7 and 7s who want to upgrade. Why buy 2019 when the real changes in design will be in 2020.
Sigh, unfortunate timing for me. On the 6 Plus for the 5th year now, was excited when I heard of bigger size, turns out it's for 2020. My battery is not as great now, and not sure if I can hold out for another year.

Plus this Plus model was on the non-S cycle, and it was plagued with problems. The 5S was perfect, so maybe 2019 one will be as well. :/
 

ZeitGeist

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Sigh, unfortunate timing for me. On the 6 Plus for the 5th year now, was excited when I heard of bigger size, turns out it's for 2020. My battery is not as great now, and not sure if I can hold out for another year.

Plus this Plus model was on the non-S cycle, and it was plagued with problems. The 5S was perfect, so maybe 2019 one will be as well. :/
You have two options - both relatively low-cost.

- upgrade the battery in your existing model, for $79 from Apple, or approx. $30 from third parties. You can even do it yourself for around $15.

- pick up a refurbished or used iPhone 7 Plus via eBay or other sources, which allows you to get upgraded hardware, possibly upgrade your storage capacity, and it will last you well for another 2-3 years, especially with the improvements in iOS 13.
 

MrGuder

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I don’t know whether to get a new battery for my 6s and wait for 2020 iPhone or get a new 2019 iPhone this fall.
 

fiveainone

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Thanks for the suggestion.

Wouldn’t it be more worthwhile to get 2019 one, use all the features I want (mainly camera), then trade it in a year later, when it still has a lot more value?

I guess I would probably loose about $400. Versus $200 on a 7 Plus, to use a better (but still outdated) camera.


You have two options - both relatively low-cost.

- upgrade the battery in your existing model, for $79 from Apple, or approx. $30 from third parties. You can even do it yourself for around $15.

- pick up a refurbished or used iPhone 7 Plus via eBay or other sources, which allows you to get upgraded hardware, possibly upgrade your storage capacity, and it will last you well for another 2-3 years, especially with the improvements in iOS 13.
 

ZeitGeist

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Thanks for the suggestion.

Wouldn’t it be more worthwhile to get 2019 one, use all the features I want (mainly camera), then trade it in a year later, when it still has a lot more value?

I guess I would probably loose about $400. Versus $200 on a 7 Plus, to use a better (but still outdated) camera.
I guess you need to ask yourself how much the camera matters to you, and what is that worth to you?

Upgrading to an iPhone 8 Plus will net you a better camera than you have now - now check how much more the higher end camera will cost you, in difference.

Also, your 2019 iPhones will most likely see a greater loss in resale value when the better 2021 models are announced - because the market will be swamped by those selling inferior devices.
 

PickUrPoison

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I don’t know whether to get a new battery for my 6s and wait for 2020 iPhone or get a new 2019 iPhone this fall.
I went crazy with my 6s. Replaced the battery, the display, front glass, and the earpiece speaker. Excellent indie shop (they also do microsoldering in-house)—$95 out the door.

It’s like new, and since iOS 12 it’s been as fast, or faster, than ever; A9/2GB is still a surprisingly performant platform. I’m not a real big picture taker, the camera does fine for my purposes. (I consider it quite good, but others would disagree.) I can get 90Mbps down/30Mbps up on AT&T LTE on a good day, and after four years I’ve still got over 25GB free out of 64GB.

I’m planning on keeping this until 2021, I hope it gets iOS 14 next year but if not, no big deal.
 
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jeyf

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No 5g on a new iPhone will reduce teh new phone's re sale
way to go apple
 

Baymowe335

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How do they expect to have a 5G chip in time for next year when they just acquired the team? It takes YEARS to produce a chip. Or was the Intel 5G chip already in the late design stages? Or maybe they only focus on sub-6Ghz 5G first and full 5G later?
You need to follow the company more closely before you make such statements.

Apple secured a long term deal with QCOM and will use their chips until they decide theirs are ready. This is common knowledge.
 

Kabeyun

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You need to follow the company more closely before you make such statements.

Apple secured a long term deal with QCOM and will use their chips until they decide theirs are ready. This is common knowledge.
Those read like questions, not statements. Questions by those who don’t know should be met with informative answers, patiently delivered. This is common knowledge.
 

PickUrPoison

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It is question what will be limit for next year. Whether 3G of RAM or A10 or something else or all iOS 13 compatible will be still in game.
I don’t think it will be RAM, since 6s, 6s Plus, 7 and 8 all have 2GB; also iPad Air 2, 5th/6th Gen iPad, Mini 4 and even 9.7” iPad Pro. (Mini 4 only has A8 so that could be on the chopping block; maybe Air 2 with A8X, also.)

But the A9 wasn’t that much slower than the A10, although there are differences other than CPU/GPU speed that could possibly lead to A9 being left out of iOS 14 support. The 6s, 6s Plus, SE and 5th generation iPad all use A9, mini 4 the A8 and Air 2 the A8X. So if A10 is required for iOS 14, they would all lose support. I suppose iPadOS 14 could have different requirements from iOS 14, but that would be somewhat surprising to me.

Of course 3GB (and A10) will be required at some point in the future, but I’m hopeful that won’t be until 2021 devices are released 🤞
 
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nebo1ss

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Apple will absolutely not be supporting 5G in 2020. They will delay (as always) and fall behind other companies and then release it as some major new feature after they are already late to the party. Lol at anybody who thinks they’ll be leading in 5G devices right out of the gate. Not happening.
[doublepost=1564337480][/doublepost]It took them what, 3 or 4 years to bring copy & paste to iOS? But they’re gonna be among the first for 5G support? LOL.
They would be crazy not too. Many of us live in large cities outside the US that already have 5g networks. Releasing a 2019 phone without 5g is already questionable.
 

PickUrPoison

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They would be crazy not too. Many of us live in large cities outside the US that already have 5g networks. Releasing a 2019 phone without 5g is already questionable.
Though I agree 2020 is likely, given the power requirements of Qualcomm’s first generation 5G modem, I don’t think 2019 with 5G was ever in play once Intel slipped.
 

jeyf

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from a resale point 5g in the new iPhones would be 🎀nice
instead
Apple and Qualcomm lawyers stole the iPhone 5G christmas goodness
 

BuddyTronic

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from a resale point 5g in the new iPhones would be 🎀nice
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Apple and Qualcomm lawyers stole the iPhone 5G christmas goodness

No 5G in the smaller towns yet, and I bet next year there will be no 5G in smaller towns either.

So, Apple is not first with 5G, but they won't really be "late" either. It's nothing too concerning.