I think generally speaking, people don't have a lot of practical uses for AI yet - not saying they don't exist, but other than writing your term papers and making funny pictures, the "real" uses are known to the common user.
And, it's also very impersonal. I 100% agree.Communication being devalued to "guessed things I might want to say" is something I honestly find disrespectful to anyone I'm communicating with.
They might be hitting a wall. Hardware purchases are down 9% month over month for Jan-February. Typically they see a 3% decline the past few years.Apple finally has something to stress iPad hardware but misses.
Apple lied to investors to sell iPhones and keep their stock price high.
I suspect none are truly reaching some sort of higher ground with customers on AI yet. Sure plenty use Gemini or ChatGPT to answer all sorts of things but Apple users can use those exact tools too. Even if Apple was doing great at AI now there would be a lag before users were frequently using it. Some would avoid it on principle at first and others just wouldn't know what situations it could help. But over time and after hearing how friends use it it would slowly creep into their daily lives.
LLMs are useful for code help, specifically for language that have an enormous corpus of data out there such as Python.I think generally speaking, people don't have a lot of practical uses for AI yet - not saying they don't exist, but other than writing your term papers and making funny pictures, the "real" uses are known to the common user.
That’s where I am. Even if everything Apple promised for Siri and AI was delivered on time and worked perfectly, there’s nothing that I would be interested in. I would continue to turn off AI and Siri. Neither influences my Apple purchases now - nor will they going forward.Even if ai worked great many people just don't want it.
I largely agree. Any answers I get from these AI agents I take with a grain of. salt until I read up some more. Still useful as a starting point, but not as the final point. I also hate how much resources their servers use. But you need to let these animals into the wild to learn what is possible and let them evolve so I'm glad they are out. But I do hope many others know their current limitations.LLMs are useful for code help, specifically for language that have an enormous corpus of data out there such as Python.
You can treat them like a rubber duck for brainstorming which can be useful on occasion.
You can use them as a kind of terrible “fuzzy search” over an enormous corpus of knowledge, albeit requiring extensive understanding of the subject matter yourself because of inaccuracies in output and incorrect sourcing (and sometimes those sources themselves being incorrect which no one keeps in mind).
You can use them as a novelty, like a fancy modern version of ELIZA.
You can dump a bunch of data into them and fine-tune things to help synthesize insights you may have missed, but this also has the same accuracy problems as the “fuzzy search” I mentioned and your prompting and follow-up needs to be extremely specific and thorough to derive benefit.
Otherwise, yeah not so much.
Does any of this sound like an “internet” level of breakthrough to you? Not to me. It’s interesting, but if anything the proliferation of the technology will do a lot of harm because most users don’t understand the technical underpinnings, and it’s not something you can teach in a short explainer text or even a 10-minute video. You need to understand the mechanisms themselves which requires a lot of skill and expertise.
The general public should never have been given these models, unless there was some way to gate the use of them with confirming you understood how they operate.
Other technology, such as world models, may behave differently but we are a few years (at the earliest) away from those being previewed outside of a lab setting.
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It’s ironic that I have the best Mac I’ve used in over 15 years (16” M4 Max MBP fully-specced with Antiglare), by far, at a time when the software situation is so very poor and misguided.
Does anyone here use Apple intelligence on a regular basis? I don’t. Maybe a Genmoji once in a blue moon and a quick auto reply in iMessage once in a blue moon too.
If one were only using this message board to know the state of AI for users they sure would get a mixed message. Combining all posts I get "I have little use for most of this AI stuff and I'm sure mad at Apple for not having it running well now". Most people wouldn't mind if a feature they never would use didn't work so well.No one is clamoring for AI from Apple. The dedicated AI companies are creating amazing technology that is not quite there for the masses. And when it's ready, the same will be true. People will not be clamoring for AI from Apple.
Apple Intelligence will go down as one of Apple’s biggest and most embarrassing failures of a product launch.
Quite true. AI is something the financial markets have been excited about - not most consumers. People are finally realizing that the emperor wears no clothes. Apple - and most of the tech companies - had better get back to looking closely at the product.Are AI features pushing Android sales either? IMO a few things are happening at once:
AI has hardly any truly compelling use cases for consumers, they’re at best moderately useful (I don’t need AI to write replies to texts etc). Hence consumers are sceptical about it, whilst also being worried it’s gonna come for their job and make them worse off.
AI aside there has been a slow down of innovations in consumer tech over the last 5+ years, certainly compare to the 5/10 years prior to that (hence big tech jumping on the AI hype train so hard). It’s getting increasingly hard to justify upgrading your handset every 2 years.
Meanwhile Big Tech have lost their sheen, people are losing trust that technology is going to make their lives better. This is in large part due to ******tification, but the AI scepticism will be feeding into it to.
Feels like we badly need some exciting new companies and products to shake things up. When was the last time you saw someone with a new device and thought ‘I need to get one of those’?
I mean if I could ask it to turn off my Phillips hue lights, and it work better than Siri that would be nice.Is there a single Apple Intelligence feature that isn’t just a gimmick?
Genuine question.
It'll be the 'redesign'.I'm looking forward to seeing how the iPhone 17 will be marketed. Will they push again on Apple Intelligence? I can't see anything else in the rumours that they can base the marketing campaign around: iPhone 17 Pro...now with more RAM (that we don't publicise), a 48 MP telephoto sensor and it won't overheat as much!
That’s why you shouldn’t combine all posts. That’s what AI might do. The truth is, some people are interested in AI but want it to work well. That’s why they are upset at Apple. But many others aren’t interested in AI at all. Two different groups with two different points of view.If one were only using this message board to know the state of AI for users they sure would get a mixed message. Combining all posts I get "I have little use for most of this AI stuff and I'm sure mad at Apple for not having it running well now". Most people wouldn't mind if a feature they never would use didn't work so well.