Why do you think any Apple product that's supports Bluetooth "(including Airpods)" is goning to get this for free? When Apple can and will sell you something that does the same job?
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Well, for one, because Apple says so? I linked this in an earlier post above.
https://www.wired.com/story/apple-find-my-cryptography-bluetooth/
Granted, it doesn’t exactly say it works with the Airpods, but it should.
It’s the classic catch 22 scenario.
Nobody’s to buy this product when it doesn’t have the install base and there won’t be an install base if nobody buys it.
The Apple tracker is simply piggy bagging on the same technology underpinning the new find my feature, and is essentially a cheap way of extending this to other items which obviously lack Bluetooth functionality. Stuff like your car keys, wallet, handbag, that sort of stuff. It’s also an excellent way to further entrench users in the Apple ecosystem.
I mean, i am obviously not going to glue this device to my iPhone or Airpods case.
They'll be waterproof like the iPhone. You can jump into swimming pools full of distilled water whilst filming an advert, but so much as a drop of sea water or soapy water gets on them and it'll be an Apple engineer in an oily overall tutting and saying "nah mate, it's ruined. See those red water sensors?".
I think the Tile worked as intended.. the keys was never lost in the first place, its still in the purse
Omg! You beat me to it! Well done. They totally look like Mentos!
Hmm, looks familiar
It's looks bigger on the picture than it is. I have it on a mid size dog and it hardly noticeable. Don't have cat's so no idea if it would be too big. It's defiantly smaller than a pager though.. (at least the ones I recall from the 90's
I feel like I must grossly misunderstand this technology...
There are SO many people talking about putting these on pets, kids, slipping them into purses of partners suspected of cheating (lol, hopefully most of those posts are in jest), etc.
But- aren’t these types of products dependent on being within bluetooth range of the device running Find My?
There are SO many people talking about putting these on pets, kids, slipping them into purses of partners suspected of cheating (lol, hopefully most of those posts are in jest), etc.
But- aren’t these types of products dependent on being within bluetooth range of the device running Find My?
I've used a Tile Mate on my female cat (8 pounds) for 4 years without any problem. She doesn't mind it at all. Or, at least she hasn't told me she minds it.
I think the idea is that any device running iOS 13 with “Find My” enabled will work towards creating this massive mesh network. Anytime a signal is received from one of these trackers on *any* iOS 13 device it will silently use whatever device it got the hit from and, in the background, push that information to the registered owner of the trackers via iCloud.
In theory, I lost my keys in the park. You walk by with your iPhone in your pocket. Your phone catches the signal of the tracker I placed into lost mode. It takes that location data and pushes it to my iCloud account so that I can use it to find the lost keys. Once I’m within range of the tracker I can ping it to play some sort of noise or find it via AR or whatever it is they have planned.
I believe this is similar to how tile works (minus the AR bit) and plus a network of approximately X100.
Siri: "Playing Alicia Keys."
Ha - you sound exactly like me. No escape, as much as you see the logic in doing so
I know you're just joking but I wouldn't be surprised if this tech ended up in AirPods and Apple watches at some point allowing people to find them easily. It would be a big selling point for Apple's ecosystem.
Geofencing is the big potential use - you receive an alert on your iphone if a tag goes outside a set range.
It could be very good, but it would be good not to have to lament this technology. If there is total vendor lock-in (which I reckon they will do), it won't be able to be rolled out in enterprise settings. I'm currently looking at this as a solution myself, but I would need it to work across platforms because there is no way the businesses I deal with are going to move to Mac hardware over something like this.
If the feature set is right, for some things cost per unit is no object.
Interesting.. I'm very disappointed with Tile, especially their "Let the community find it" feature. I turned off the BT on my phone and brought it with me everywhere I went in this city (Barcelona). According to Tile's app there's 1500 people that have one in a 2km or so radius. It's heavily visted by tourists in summer.
However after a month on busy subways etc nobody has seen a single ping from it. If it doesn't work here, it doesn't work anywhere.
For local tracking it works fine and you can make it beep and even replace the battery on the latest ones (which I have). But it's pretty useless otherwise and it allows shops etc to track you because it doesn't randomise its MAC address.
If Apple does make this work properly, it would be a big plus for their ecosystem. Especially pointing out where it is in the room would be great.
However after a month on busy subways etc nobody has seen a single ping from it. If it doesn't work here, it doesn't work anywhere.
For local tracking it works fine and you can make it beep and even replace the battery on the latest ones (which I have). But it's pretty useless otherwise and it allows shops etc to track you because it doesn't randomise its MAC address.
If Apple does make this work properly, it would be a big plus for their ecosystem. Especially pointing out where it is in the room would be great.
When describing this new apple tech innovation involves using some other company's product to compare to, it isn't innovative.
Probably why apple made it so difficult to turn off bt & wifi on iOS.
It's not going to be anywhere near as accurate as a dedicated GPS tracker, for one.
However, since Apple devices with bluetooth are going to be more commonplace than tile trackers, the odds are pretty good that in the course of a day, the bearer of this Apple bluetooth tracker is likely to pass by someone using an Apple product. While this won't be effective in say, allowing you to monitor your target's location in real time, it might still be able to provide an idea of where he / she / it has been over the course of the day, assuming that area has someone with an iPhone passing by at some point.
For example, I place an apple tracker in the bag of my child. Say I check the find my app in the afternoon. If he is in a location with no apple devices, I will not know where he is (so this makes it worthless if he is kidnapped in the middle of a forest by men with burner phones). However, I might still be able to figure out his last known location if he has passed by someone with an apple product and both bluetooth signals ping each other to triangulate a location. So I might be able to tell that he was at a Starbucks at a certain time, but not where he went afterwards.
That's my current understanding.
So, if Henry said “it’s just like a horse & buggy... only better”, the automobile automatically wouldn’t have been an innovation??
Lol.
I literally cannot fathom your thought process AT ALL. It seems like you’re just desperate to grasp at any straw that helps you denounce any form of innovation.
An innovation isn’t necessarily a completely wild idea never conceived of before... it's either a new idea, OR a new manner of implementation and/or feature set.
I’d say that “like Tile, only more precise... w/ an added AR component, & accessible within your new Find My app” certainly qualifies.
He didn't invent the car, he invented the assembly line. A faster way to make things.
Which any rational person would consider an innovation...
However, according to you- since he got the idea from a meat packing plant... apparently, the man never had an innovative thought in his life. smh
I still remember how hyped some Apple fans were when iBeacons were announced. Those were going to change the world! For some reason, some people believe Apple changes the world every September.