there are other options - The Sammy Exynos 5400 launched in the Pixel 9 and I am pretty sure Mediatek has a discrete modem still too.
How are they creepy? Shaken down?
While I’m sure that Apple will do extensive testing of a new modem, there are always surprises when you deploy new technology into the field and put it in user’s hands against carrier networks around the globe. There will be some risk. It makes perfect sense for Apple to launch the modem on a new SE, a phone that is less critical to their business than the main iPhone and sells in much lower numbers.
It may make sense to launch somewhere other than the US for the first launch (India/China?). You'd expect to see the modem show up on the FCC's site at least 6 moths prior to shipping in phones and it need to have carrier approval before they can start showing up in our phones.
That was then, this is now. Why don’t we wait and see instead of making declarative statements about a product none of us have ever used and is still at least six months away?
I think the new Apple modem will stay iPhone SE 4 only. They may stay with the Qualcomm Snapdragon X80 for the iPhone 17 "Slim" model.
Well I would advise you to getting the iPhone 16 Pro version this year as the 16 lineup may be the final iPhone with a Qualcomm modem in it. This is not good news for your Qualcomm Stock
It’s not testing dude like R&D and not ready for use.
Do you think Samsung or Huawei, Google or any of the other major phone manufacturers would pass it on? Why should they especially when they have billions in development costs to recover. You should consider how much Apple spent to develop this component. It is public knowledge this has been in development for a long time and had a lot of very expensive setbacks. They are entitled to recover their costs.
You know, this makes me think. A billion dollars in royalties is a lot of money - and it could be more now. But then, Apple is getting something like $20 billion a year from Google to make its search engine the default option on Macs and iOS devices.
Running their company to make the most money they can for their shareholders and protecting their IP is creepy? Enforcing contract terms is creepy? Quite a stretch.
I don't expect or want Tim to pass on the savings. I'm just explaining the truth before the fans come in saying how great it is. I don't enjoy being fleeced by apple.
And the users will be the beta testers, as per todays standards 😅 I would skip the first (maybe even second) generation of these modems, just to be on the safe side 😎
Eh... not overly worried. My old phone is still good, and it seems QCOM is diversifying pretty well. I bounce back and forth between iPhone and Androids. Currenly Apple, but may head back to the other side for a while- the modem may move me that way anyway.
Good points all around (especially going ipad first). No matter though, we should expect to see them on the FCC site soon if there is any chance of a 2025 rollout. I feel like I've read this "any time now!" story for at least 3-4 years. I'll believe it when I see it at this point.
Cheaper for Apple since they would no longer pay as much to qualcomm. If it is anything like Intel's modems it will be a dumpster fire. I will wait until Gen 2 before jumping on that ship. Modems aren't CPU's so will be interesting to see if apple makes something actually comparable to Qualcomm.
You can always go Windows or Android. You have options.
Speaking of mmWave, there seems to be little interest in mmWave in the USA now. Every Verizon is really downplaying mmWave except in places like sports stadiums.
