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Worthless trillion dollar company!. We get the products we deserve.
We are mindless fanboys who buy whatever this company pushes, no matter how minor the “upgrade” it is.
 
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Apple just seems to be constantly fumbling, from everything to internal failures leading to scrapped products, to a lack of innovation in updated products, to pauses on production because they don’t seem to know what they’re doing. And don’t get me started on their atrociously bad applications: podcast app, the horrendous books app, etc.
 
The W3 chip is solely Bluetooth, not WiFi.
Hmm, looks like you're right.
My recollection was that the W-series chips were WiFi and BT (initially targeted at aWatch), and it was only the H chips that switched to BT-only; but I cannot actually find anything confirming that so maybe I just misremembered?
 
It looks like Apple is taking a very considered approach to this, which is smart. They need to be sure that their chips are up to par with the industry standards before they commit to mass production. It's understandable that they'd want to focus on the 3nm chips, but hopefully they'll be able to get back to work on the Wi-Fi chip soon.
 
I think it's better that Apple takes their time to get it right. I have a Thinkpad P16s AMD with a Qualcomm adapter and it's genuinely terrible. 40mbps down when my iPhone pulls 300mbps down and bluetooth audio lag in a university environment. And my experience with intel network adapters in laptops are even worse.

I'd say if they wanted to build their own, it would have to be somewhat comparable to the current Broadcom adapters they currently ship with their products or else it's going to be a complete dumpster fire. It sounds easy to build wifi and bluetooth adapters but it genuinely isn't when there's so many manufactures screwing up wifi adapters.
 
It looks like Apple is taking a very considered approach to this, which is smart. They need to be sure that their chips are up to par with the industry standards before they commit to mass production. It's understandable that they'd want to focus on the 3nm chips, but hopefully they'll be able to get back to work on the Wi-Fi chip soon.
Agreed. I think it's better that Apple takes their time to get it right. I have a Thinkpad P16s AMD with a Qualcomm adapter and it's genuinely terrible. 40mbps down when my iPhone pulls 300mbps down and bluetooth audio lag in a university environment. And my experience with intel network adapters in laptops are even worse.

I'd say if they wanted to build their own, it would have to be somewhat comparable to the current Broadcom adapters they currently ship with their products or else it's going to be a complete dumpster fire. It sounds easy to build wifi and bluetooth adapters but it genuinely isn't when there's so many manufactures screwing up wifi adapters.
 
Honestly. What is the point here? What is the main purpose of having inhouse chips for Wifi/Bluetooth/5G?
Since the connections are standardized it must be a financial margin exercise (only)?
 
Honestly. What is the point here? What is the main purpose of having inhouse chips for Wifi/Bluetooth/5G?
Since the connections are standardized it must be a financial margin exercise (only)?
I'm curious, too. I don't know how standardized these chips and their connections are, so I have no clue. Do they plan to merge chips/functions (ie bluetooth, wifi, cellular) into one chip, separate them, etc? Plus, Apple has a history of using proprietary connectors (look at their SSD connectors).
 
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I am actually a Manager and also help out with HR! I just think that people deserve to hear hard truths instead of what they want to hear!


If that were true, you would know employees are intrinsically motivated. Everything you wrote about "market cap, richest company in the world, influence, OMG!" makes you sound like a teenager with no real world leadership experience.

Good employees want to grow their knowledge and develop professionally. It's what they can bring with them to their next job, not market cap or influence. They want their jobs to have a sense of meaningfulness and appreciate the outcomes. These are basic employee retention principles anybody with real managerial experience would know.

Working for Broadcom and Intel means collaborating with others on leading edge radio and Wi-Fi 7. Working for Apple in secrecy to duplicate existing Wi-Fi features with the goal of adding to Apple profit margins isn't motivating for most people.
 
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If that were true, you would know employees are intrinsically motivated. Everything you wrote about "market cap, richest company in the world, influence, OMG!" makes you sound like a teenager with no real world leadership experience.

Good employees want to grow their knowledge and develop professionally. It's what they can bring with them to their next job, not market cap or influence. They want their jobs to have a sense of meaningfulness and appreciate the outcomes.

Working for Broadcom and Intel means collaborating with others on edge radio chips and Wi-Fi 7. Working for Apple in secrecy to duplicate existing Wi-Fi features with the goal of adding to Apple profit margins isn't motivating for most people.

That is your opinion. And only that. To each his own!
 
That is your opinion. And only that. To each his own!

These aren't opinions. These are basic fundamentals. Pick up a book on employee recruitment and retention if you really are a "Manager and also help out with HR." It'll help significantly.
 
These aren't opinions. These are basic fundamentals. Pick up a book on employee recruitment and retention if you really are a "Manager and also help out with HR." It'll help significantly.

Fundamentals can be biased. There is really not any one definitive answer. Look at the heartless layoffs in the past few months by all of the Tech companies where badges were shut off at midnight as people came in the next day only to find out they were laid off because their badge did not work. Intel just laid of 544 people by the way and they stated that more are to come. Intel also had a dismal Quarter. Apple on the other hand is one of the few tech companies that has had no layoffs.
 
If that were true, you would know employees are intrinsically motivated. Everything you wrote about "market cap, richest company in the world, influence, OMG!" makes you sound like a teenager with no real world leadership experience.

Good employees want to grow their knowledge and develop professionally. It's what they can bring with them to their next job, not market cap or influence. They want their jobs to have a sense of meaningfulness and appreciate the outcomes. These are basic employee retention principles anybody with real managerial experience would know.

Working for Broadcom and Intel means collaborating with others on leading edge radio and Wi-Fi 7. Working for Apple in secrecy to duplicate existing Wi-Fi features with the goal of adding to Apple profit margins isn't motivating for most people.
There are many different types of people, with many different motivations. What you say describe one set, not a different set. You are willing to concede that people (who turned out to be the best in the world) were willing to work to work for Apple “in secrecy” “duplicating existing CPUs” to create the Apple SOC’s?…

If there‘s any single thing wrong with your analysis, it’s the assumption that Apple’s RF work will, unlike their CPU work, be “me-too“ and thus unappealing to the best in the world. That strikes me as a crazy assumption; Apple’s pitch will be precisely “come make the BEST RF in the world. No legacy, no politics, management by engineers, a chance to do everything right“…
 
There are many different types of people, with many different motivations. What you say describe one set, not a different set. You are willing to concede that people (who turned out to be the best in the world) were willing to work to work for Apple “in secrecy” “duplicating existing CPUs” to create the Apple SOC’s?…

If there‘s any single thing wrong with your analysis, it’s the assumption that Apple’s RF work will, unlike their CPU work, be “me-too“ and thus unappealing to the best in the world. That strikes me as a crazy assumption; Apple’s pitch will be precisely “come make the BEST RF in the world. No legacy, no politics, management by engineers, a chance to do everything right“…

"Come make the best RF in the world. We have virtually no essential Wi-Fi 6/7 patents to support your work. So if you love to eat spaghetti with a spoon, come to us!" 😄

Unless Apple intends to create a wireless standard that isn't interoperable with every other Wi-Fi product in the world, I'd say your assumption is the one that's crazy. No, it isn't like their CPU work.

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Why are you arguing with each other over something someone who doesn’t even work at Apple said on Facebook?

Clown town all the way down.
 
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