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I have tons of Chinese friends here in Sweden. All of them rely on WeChat, and would go to Android the second WeChat disappear.

Why would there be a worldwide ban though? Why the hell would Trump decide which I apps I can use in Sweden?

i think the logic is it’s because Apple is an American tech company thus Trumps legislation applies to iPhones even in Sweden.
 
The President of U.S. is like an imbecile that crying to cease the domestic company from working with another region. Ironically, it violated the philosophy and Americans value that stood up for liberty, trust, equality in the economy.

There are lots of younger, talented and genius workforce that supposed to be running as president to bring peace and positive vibe to the country instead of a president with obesity that just want to wreak havoc on the economy.
 
I have tons of Chinese friends here in Sweden. All of them rely on WeChat, and would go to Android the second WeChat disappear.

Why would there be a worldwide ban though? Why the hell would Trump decide which I apps I can use in Sweden?
Apple is a US company and thus have to comply with US law in all its operations globally or face legal action. That is not new, all US companies face the same issue.
 
not quite sure whether the executive order from mr. used car salesman (current leader of the free world they say) has the power and legitimacy to affect the “non free world”. the same way ban on twitter by PRC doesn’t apply to US, does it?
Twitter is a US company so a foreign country's ban would not impact its otehr operations.
 
30% is very optimistic. Make that 100%. A smartphone without WeChat is as useful as a dumbphone in China.

And why do we need to cater to China? They‘re an evil nation, with an evil government. They‘ve been occupying territory for decades, they‘ve been bullying half the globe, and they‘ve been blackmailing governments and consumers around the world. Let‘s just cut ties with China, count our losses and move on. Honestly, who gives a crap - it‘s probably better like that in the long run.
 
I find it hard to believe Trump would take the ban international. I mean who knows what that unstable dude will do but his main focus SHOULD be with what’s going on in his own country.

President from X country forbidding apps in Y country- that sounds stupid and impossible...but then I remembered country Y dictates entertainment made in country X, so I guess it is not that impossible..
 
Any phone without having the option to download WeChat sold in China would be useless. Anyone visiting China who will interact with the Chinese or do business there will find WeChat really useful.

If we could use WeChat here in the west like it is used in China, it would blow FB, Apple Pay, Instagram et al out of the water.
You have hit the nail on the head there. With 1B+ users (I assume mostly in China and SE Asia) - a number over 3X total US population, that horse has left the barn, that ship has sailed, the train has left the station - and that's where we are with the idea to strangle? WeChat? LOL.
 
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President from X country forbidding apps in Y country- that sounds stupid and impossible...but then I remembered country Y dictates entertainment made in country X, so I guess it is not that impossible..
That's not that unusual. The EU expected US companies storing EU citizen data on US servers to comply with the GDPR, an dlater ruled US data storage did not comply.
 
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But wouldn’t google have to remove it too? If the only two players stop servicing the same app I don’t see how that would hurt any single one of them
 
But wouldn’t google have to remove it too? If the only two players stop servicing the same app I don’t see how that would hurt any single one of them
The play store is not the only way to install applications in android.
 
The President of U.S. is like an imbecile that crying to cease the domestic company from working with another region. Ironically, it violated the philosophy and Americans value that stood up for liberty, trust, equality in the economy.

There are lots of younger, talented and genius workforce that supposed to be running as president to bring peace and positive vibe to the country instead of a president with obesity that just want to wreak havoc on the economy.

You sure say a lot about which you know very little. China is a bad actor and trump is banning known Chinese government spying tools. Trump may be a narcissistic ass hole but he’s totally right when it comes to China and particularly these apps. In America people are losing their minds and screaming to the hills that Black Lives Matter (they do- for the record) and demanding anti racism become the norm. How can anyone say that with a straight face without condemning the Chinese communists for their blatant human rights abuses? They currently have slaves. Let me repeat that. China enslaves minorities. The world should be banning China on our own. It’s pathetic Trump has to force it because people care about cheap goods and partisan politics more than human rights. But sure, Orange man bad so that must mean China is the side we should go with because we CANT support anything Orange man does...
 
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And why do we need to cater to China? They‘re an evil nation, with an evil government. They‘ve been occupying territory for decades, they‘ve been bullying half the globe, and they‘ve been blackmailing governments and consumers around the world. Let‘s just cut ties with China, count our losses and move on. Honestly, who gives a crap - it‘s probably better like that in the long run.
As a European, I dare to say most of the things in your list remind me of the US, not China… Compared to the US and Russia, China's foreign policy is extremely low-profile. When is the last time China got involved in a major war, or tried to overthrow a country's government? China hardly cares about Palestine, Ukraine, or Syria; it only cares about China. Of course, from a Chinese perspective, China includes Taiwan, which not everyone will agree with here.
 
And why do we need to cater to China? They‘re an evil nation, with an evil government. They‘ve been occupying territory for decades, they‘ve been bullying half the globe, and they‘ve been blackmailing governments and consumers around the world. Let‘s just cut ties with China, count our losses and move on. Honestly, who gives a crap - it‘s probably better like that in the long run.
You’ve misspelled how that country is spelled. It’s U-S-A.
 
As a European, I dare to say most of the things in your list remind me of the US, not China… Compared to the US and Russia, China's foreign policy is extremely low-profile. When is the last time China got involved in a major war, or tried to overthrow a country's government? China hardly cares about Palestine, Ukraine, or Syria; it only cares about China. Of course, from a Chinese perspective, China includes Taiwan, which not everyone will agree with here.

you’re spot on and America has a lot of work to do regarding international affairs. But America banned slavery 150 years ago. China currently enslaves minorities. Pretty clear to me which country deserves more condemnation.
 
And why do we need to cater to China? They‘re an evil nation, with an evil government. They‘ve been occupying territory for decades, they‘ve been bullying half the globe, and they‘ve been blackmailing governments and consumers around the world. Let‘s just cut ties with China, count our losses and move on. Honestly, who gives a crap - it‘s probably better like that in the long run.

Do you realize that Apple is a company and its purpose is to make profit? Apple will do anything to keep the chinese market.
 
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Do you realize that Apple is a company and its purpose is to make profit? Apple will do anything to keep the chinese market.

Which is why it’s important the government makes decisions that aren’t purely based on profits but rather protecting / strengthening its citizens.
 
And why do we need to cater to China? They‘re an evil nation, with an evil government. They‘ve been occupying territory for decades, they‘ve been bullying half the globe, and they‘ve been blackmailing governments and consumers around the world. Let‘s just cut ties with China, count our losses and move on. Honestly, who gives a crap - it‘s probably better like that in the long run.
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As a European, I dare to say most of the things in your list remind me of the US, not China… Compared to the US and Russia, China's foreign policy is extremely low-profile.

China has chosen economic means, such as thebelt and Road to extend power. It may be less visible but no less of an attempt to exert influence and project power.

When is the last time China got involved in a major war,
Not major but India has sopme concerns about Chinese military actions...

or tried to overthrow a country's government? China hardly cares about Palestine, Ukraine, or Syria; it only cares about China.

Tibet and Hong Kong beg to differ.
 
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Which is why it’s important the government makes decisions that aren’t purely based on profits but rather protecting / strengthening its citizens.
That flies in the face of Capitalism though. It’s the guiding star for pretty much the entire planet, nation-states take a back seat to the demands of the almighty economy.
 
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