My guess is that the iPad Air will transition to miniLED when the iPad Pro transitions to microLED... that seems a lot more likely IMO...
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Kuo: iPad Air to Adopt OLED in 2022, Mini-LED to Remain Exclusive to iPad Pro Models
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It’s good to see many educated people here with regards to screen technology. Like them I’m wondering how OLED is the low tier. If it’s true, its backwards. MiniLED does not offer the same performance. Go look at the recent TVs with the tech. Blacks and blooming are terrible compared to OLED. I predict Apple will artificially limit the brightness of the OLED and call it inferior. As if brightness is the only important factor in a screen. This is troubling if true.
LG Display makes WRGB displays for TVs. Samsung makes RGB displays for phones. RGB is considered superior due to the fact that the white sub pixel in WRGB displays dilute color saturation at high brightness. It’s only used to get more brightness. However with their evo panels it’s less of an issue.
Japan Display manufactures RGB screens for LGs new OLED monitors.
Yeah tbh it seems like it’ll be pretty much the same form factor with the display being the main tent pole feature. Would definitely like to see different materials used aside from aluminum which would be cool. They gotta be cooking up something on that front.
Better cameras, better display and Thunderbolt 3? Seem to be the biggest changes.
Would love a true BLACK iPad as well.
I want to say that it’s Apple we’re talking about and if they do use miniLED on the Pro lineup that it’ll still be very good. But idk. We’ll see soon.
There must be a capacity/yield/cost factor at play here.
Obviously it is possible to produce OLED panels in 12:9“ to 16” sizes. Apparently, however, the realities of the manufacturing process may make it unfavorable. So mini-LED gets the nod at those sizes while 11” and below will be OLED.
Eventually, probably by the end of the decade, everything will move to micro-LED, and the transition away from LCD in portable devices will finally be complete.
Obviously it is possible to produce OLED panels in 12:9“ to 16” sizes. Apparently, however, the realities of the manufacturing process may make it unfavorable. So mini-LED gets the nod at those sizes while 11” and below will be OLED.
Eventually, probably by the end of the decade, everything will move to micro-LED, and the transition away from LCD in portable devices will finally be complete.
Obligatory reminder that the "organic" in OLED has nothing to do with "organic" in the sense of "from organisms" or "biological". The LEDs are organic in the sense as they are made with organic chemistry.
Organic chemicals don't automatically have a "predetermined life cycle" or decay. If they would, we wouldn't have problems with non-decaying plastics.
It is confusing. Yet the Apples XDR screen is a miniLED. If OLED was so superior, why did Apple not use it for their flagship display?
Rumours long time ago suggested 10,000 LED zones for the portables and not the puny 500 used in the XDR.
Rumours long time ago suggested 10,000 LED zones for the portables and not the puny 500 used in the XDR.
Sounds like JOLED should get involved here - they specialise in printing OLED screens in this size range. Printing greatly reduces the material cost (for RGB OLEDs 2/3 of the expensive OLED material is wasted on the masks). They will need to greatly increase their capacity but sounds doable over the next two years.
Samsung is screwed in regards to TVs for the next few years. Samsung Display has ceased making LCD/QLED panels and moved to QD-OLED. The TV-making part of Samsung has now had to source their miniLED tech from CSOT and AUO - in other words, the expensive TVs Samsung is launching does not use their own technology which is increasing the costs. Next year is going to be more of the same with the possibility of a QD-OLED range, which as a first gen product will likely have a lot of issues.
What I'd imagine they would do is maybe have a lower PPI and refresh rate for OLED but a higher PPI and refresh for mini LED probably bringing them more in line with each other in terms of picture quality
Maybe they are testing the mini-LEDS on the iPad Pro before rolling out to macs.
Mini LED is superior to OLED, it’s pretty obvious.
With enough dimming zones, mini LED offers essentially infinite contrast. It is also brighter than OLED. Color accuracy is also superior. The only downside as Kuo has reported is that mini LED is more expensive than OLED.
If you think OLED is better, you haven’t been paying attention. The current TVs aren’t representative of what the best mini LED can do nor what Apple wants from manufacturers.
With enough dimming zones, mini LED offers essentially infinite contrast. It is also brighter than OLED. Color accuracy is also superior. The only downside as Kuo has reported is that mini LED is more expensive than OLED.
If you think OLED is better, you haven’t been paying attention. The current TVs aren’t representative of what the best mini LED can do nor what Apple wants from manufacturers.
Actually I thought that too but someone corrected me. XDR doesn't use miniLEDs. Its still LEDs as they are not small enough to qualify for miniLED name 
But I agree with others. MiniLED is superior to OLED in many many ways and I can't wait for this. I hope that miniLED goes into more Apple product (iMac would be sweet). Those who keep saying that OLED is the king are the ones that are stuck on just one thing. OLED has too many issues for little advantages so miniLED wins now and microLED will just show the finger to OLED. For that we will have to wait longer though.
But I agree with others. MiniLED is superior to OLED in many many ways and I can't wait for this. I hope that miniLED goes into more Apple product (iMac would be sweet). Those who keep saying that OLED is the king are the ones that are stuck on just one thing. OLED has too many issues for little advantages so miniLED wins now and microLED will just show the finger to OLED. For that we will have to wait longer though.
Well the amount of dimming zones need to be the same as the amount of pixels for it to be equal to OLED in contrast and deep blacks department.
Mini-LED offers other advantages of course. Many of which matters more for a mobile device, I wouldn’t take mini-LED over OLED for movies though.
I don't think Air comes with OLED, OLED is bad for phones/tablets, causes eye strain and etc. Maybe microLED hit next year on Airs... Btw, can't wait for miniLED ipads/iphones and iMacs
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OLED has come a long way people, just remember that, its nothing like it was a couple of years ago
and they're still doing R&D for it, and constantly improving with big breakthroughs, it will be the display tech for a decade at least
and then eventually we'll see MicroLED in the Apple Watch and 2 years after that in the iPhone and then 5 years in the iPad and MacBook
and they're still doing R&D for it, and constantly improving with big breakthroughs, it will be the display tech for a decade at least
and then eventually we'll see MicroLED in the Apple Watch and 2 years after that in the iPhone and then 5 years in the iPad and MacBook
For all practical purposes, once you have over 1,000 dimming zones on an iPad-sized device, there will be diminishing returns. For movies, you rarely have a natural scene that calls for pixel level control of darkness. In the end, mini LED is a better technology overall especially for the type of mobile devices that Apple sells.
Something is definitely off about this. As others have noted, mini LED in its current form is almost a scam lol. I was watching a review of the new mini LED qleds from Samsung vs the LG OLEDs, and there's essentially no difference from previous FALD LCDs. The OLED killed it in the comparison of course.
Unless Kuo has confused mini LED with micro LED, I can't imagine the scenario where an iPad Air has OLED and the Pros don't.
The Apple Watch display is fantastic... I can't imagine Apple taking a step backwards on that either.
Unless Kuo has confused mini LED with micro LED, I can't imagine the scenario where an iPad Air has OLED and the Pros don't.
The Apple Watch display is fantastic... I can't imagine Apple taking a step backwards on that either.
Samsung would use it if it could - LG won't sell Samsung OLED panels.
So it looks like no mini LED for the mini iPad if only the pro models will get it. Sad to see no love for the mini iPad but it's understandable if you keep in mind the fat iPhones seem to be moving into that niche. OLED is becoming common on the iPhones and is arguably just as good.