Yes, old tech gets cheaper as time goes on. New tech gets more expensive.
Also inflation over time.
New Hardware costs go up, old hardware costs fall.
That’s apples decision to support a product for seven years. Or the 5s eg, for almost 8 years.
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Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'
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My 2 cents:
- that's quite a long wait for the Plus, so most pre-orders went to the Pro Max for those wanting the bigger screen
- it will take some time for customers to get used to the idea of TWO 6.7" models after years of only one
- I would imagine that as most people become more familiar with the 6.7"Plus it will become more popular than the 6.1"
- that's quite a long wait for the Plus, so most pre-orders went to the Pro Max for those wanting the bigger screen
- it will take some time for customers to get used to the idea of TWO 6.7" models after years of only one
- I would imagine that as most people become more familiar with the 6.7"Plus it will become more popular than the 6.1"
People are literally taking out credit to buy food and gas. Is it any wonder they don't have money for an iterative product. LOL
IM A MEGA FAN OF APPLE PRODUCTS & TO MISS A NEW LAUNCH IS UNLIKELY FOR ME…I AGREE WITH YOU. WAYYYYY TOO SIMILIAR! NOPE! I WILL WAIT UNTIL NEXT YEAR. MY 13 PRO MAX WILL DO UNTIL THEN. THEY FAILED MISERABLY WITH THE 14
I am also holding onto my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Not spending another $2000+ on the same phone with just a few improvements, like dynamic island (which I admit is cool) and a slightly better camera (the cameras on the 13 Pro Max are still incredible, even if they’re no longer the best iPhone cameras anymore). Battery life on my phone, while terrible now, could be fixed hopefully in a future software update, which I hope is soon cause it used to have good battery life on iOS 15. I may or may not get the 15 Pro Max
Honestly YouTubers always make it look like the new one is way better, but actually…lol xd even iPhone 11 photos are similar to 13 pro, both phones at home.
You have perfectly summed up everything! I have had a 13 Pro for a year now and I still feel fatigue using it. I’m really torn between keeping waiting for the next smaller phone and trading my 13 Pro for a 13 mini. As I used an iPhone 7 before upgrading to 13 Pro, I really miss how light and portable that phone was. That’s why I also really like the light weight of 13 mini, but I also really like the telephoto on the 13 Pro. If only they could make a mini with a telephoto lense and a bigger battery. That would be a dream phone to have.
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Another 13 Pro user here who finds it too large and heavy. I regret I didn’t get a 13 mini last year (although I would miss the ProMotion display) and I considered getting one now, but I am kind if held back by the fact that Apple isn’t releasing small phones anymore (and there is no garantee the next SE will be small).
I am concerned that if Apple has decided to kill smaller phones, the UI of future versions of iOS won’t be optimised for smaller displays and user experience will be subpar (combined with the fact that sometimes software-based battery usage optimisation goes down the drain when Apple loses interest in an older model).
Could they put the pro features into the Mini and have a good product? The pro camera takes up more space, and Promotion may require a larger battery.
The entire USA product line of iPhone 14 models removed the ability for an actual SIM card. One can not start a "new" eSIM for the UK O2 from the USA. A UK address is usually required. I could and did put my existing O2 SIM card into my 13 Pro Max. It worked fine.
My British wife has now put her O2 SIM card into that iPhone.
Thus, I also acquired a 13 Mini for my O2 SIM card. I just ordered a 13 Mini for my wife for when she gets my 14 Pro Max next model year. We will be back to having two phones unless we put our US Verizon number on the Mini in the eSIM slot.
That then precludes having a use for the two iPhones (14 and 15 Pro MAX 15) if they are sitting back in the USA.
As a frequent traveler to the UK, I need the O2 number to be usable on landing so I can notify family of our arrival for pickup. We need the USA and UK numbers to be hot in one phone. I often have to contact businesses kin the UK on the UK number.
I have recently been on an overland adventure through seven countries in southern Africa. There was no ability for acquiring an eSIM in those economically challenged countries.
So Apple has screwed their entire USA based international travel customers. US based cell companies, just like their UK counterparts, gouge the hell out of their international customers with exorbitant prices for calls outside of their geographic area.
My British wife has now put her O2 SIM card into that iPhone.
Thus, I also acquired a 13 Mini for my O2 SIM card. I just ordered a 13 Mini for my wife for when she gets my 14 Pro Max next model year. We will be back to having two phones unless we put our US Verizon number on the Mini in the eSIM slot.
That then precludes having a use for the two iPhones (14 and 15 Pro MAX 15) if they are sitting back in the USA.
As a frequent traveler to the UK, I need the O2 number to be usable on landing so I can notify family of our arrival for pickup. We need the USA and UK numbers to be hot in one phone. I often have to contact businesses kin the UK on the UK number.
I have recently been on an overland adventure through seven countries in southern Africa. There was no ability for acquiring an eSIM in those economically challenged countries.
So Apple has screwed their entire USA based international travel customers. US based cell companies, just like their UK counterparts, gouge the hell out of their international customers with exorbitant prices for calls outside of their geographic area.
More likely Apple is trying to force the hands of the carriers. It wouldn’t surprise me if EU and UK phones are next to go eSIM-only.
On another note, T-Mobile USA offers 5GB of data in over 200 countries on their most popular plans.
What about Verizon's international calling plan? I'm curious whether you've costed that out as an alternative.
Yes. The Verizon plan can work out to about $10 per day to have the same data plan abroad as I have in the USA. That rapidly gets expensive when in the UK for six weeks or even three weeks like the trip in January for a family funeral.
Are there any carriers that offer better international plans, or are they all pretty much the same? I've heard T-mobile has particular good international plans, but I don't know if you're locked into Verizon. I know Spectrum (which uses the Verizon network, if you want to stay with that network) has an international calling plan, but you need to be a Spectrum internet or cable customer.
Verizon does have an international unlimited plan for $100/month, but it's not clear from their literature if you can get that in place of your domestic unlimited plan, or if you have to pay an extra $100/month for it on top of your existing plan
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We have three iPhone Verizon plans (one 5G Get More and two 5G Do More) that give us one free "foreign day pass" per month. If unused, they can accumulate to a maximum total of 12 banked day passes or a total of 36 days over the three iPhones. If triggered, the day pass is 24 hours from the instant of turn-on. The Verizon foreign day pass is $10 per day.
My UK O2 SIM card (as is my wife's O2 SIM card) is a "pay as you go" and that plan is not available on an O2 eSIM program. Thus we both will need a 13 Mini for for use in the UK where her family resides starting when I get the iPhone 15 and she gets my iPhone 14. She currently has my iPhone 13 Pro Max with the O2 SIM and it works fine.
We need the UK numbers so the friends and relatives have a local call to us. However. in the UK, all calls are toll calls. There are different rates depending on the called number and where it is located.
Thus, there is an Apple tax of the price of a iPhone 13 Mini or some other iPhone 13 (or older) to be able to use the O2 SIM cards.
Note that when we traveled through seven countries in Southern Africa a few years back, there were NO eSims to be found at the borders but actual prepaid SIM cards could easily be found.
This Apple obsession for all eSIMs will drive long loyal internationally traveling customers away. If they want a single cell phone for multi country use, they will go to the other brands.
My UK O2 SIM card (as is my wife's O2 SIM card) is a "pay as you go" and that plan is not available on an O2 eSIM program. Thus we both will need a 13 Mini for for use in the UK where her family resides starting when I get the iPhone 15 and she gets my iPhone 14. She currently has my iPhone 13 Pro Max with the O2 SIM and it works fine.
We need the UK numbers so the friends and relatives have a local call to us. However. in the UK, all calls are toll calls. There are different rates depending on the called number and where it is located.
Thus, there is an Apple tax of the price of a iPhone 13 Mini or some other iPhone 13 (or older) to be able to use the O2 SIM cards.
Note that when we traveled through seven countries in Southern Africa a few years back, there were NO eSims to be found at the borders but actual prepaid SIM cards could easily be found.
This Apple obsession for all eSIMs will drive long loyal internationally traveling customers away. If they want a single cell phone for multi country use, they will go to the other brands.
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I wonder how many people are using Canadian 14 series iPhones in the US. They have SIM trays but no mmWave.
A US citizen would have to cross into Canada to go to an Apple store to buy a Canada version outright. Apple will not ship a Canadian one to me in Arizona.
In the big US cities, third party phones sellers sometimes carry new Canadian iPhones. However, I wonder how much of a premium they charge.
