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Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'
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All credit transaction data is public available for sales to hedge funds and other financial analysts to know trends of anything in real time. The data is aggregated and anonymized but if you pay for it you can immediately know how many people pay how much for what vendor in what location
Honestly, I would be surprised if their market position doesn’t sink a lot in Europe come Christmas. Prices are preposterous, 1009€ for the base model, same processor, design, and without a charger.
So far I don’t know a single person who is planning to buy one. Not that I know everyone, obviously, but it’s very unusual
So far I don’t know a single person who is planning to buy one. Not that I know everyone, obviously, but it’s very unusual
There is also size constraints involved though. I don’t see where you’d put additional camera hardware in that tiny phone (reason I didn’t go mini). I think the problem is you’re not far off from “pro” pricing and with people in the US often paying payments, that’s just a few extra dollars a month.
Their global market share is niche anyway, unlikely Apple cares if Europe shrinks further.
Don't worry, here the dated one I guess it's not your 14 Pro but the one that holds it in your hand.
I put these posts to you as soon as they kill DI, so let's see your consistency. 🤣
I can't help but be reminded of the parable of the elephant and the 4 blind men. They each touch a different part of the elephant, and come to erroneous conclusions of what an elephant is supposed to look like as a result. Feels like the same thing here. They may have access to (incomplete) sales data, but lack the context to make sense of the data.
I only know the sales number of 14 plus is very bad, regular 14 is pretty bad, while regular latest iPhone was best selling iPhone every year before.
I kind of agree, their new crazy pricing makes us feel only make sense to buy pro and pro max or don’t buy at all.
Foreign markets? 21% price increase in Japan or 16% price increase in UK…and this crazy expensive plus with 2 camera only and some old hardwares…Expect this would be the worst selling number of new iPhone model ever.
dynamic island is about making what people hate the notch for years become a selling point lol xd
No one likes price increases. Its all about worth, is that phone worth it to you (and can you afford it)? I was going to upgrade, but then saw the phone and was like meh (I have an 11 Pro, would have gone 256 14 Pro) if it had USBC then yeah more likely. But I chose to skip again. Can I afford it, yes, is it worth that to me? No. However I did order an upgrade for a family member, they are on a XR and I got the base 14, because thats all they need and use it for. Another 3/4yrs for them. I might just get my battery replaced instead for now.
Funny thing is that Samsung will change their phones display to a pill shape to emulate dynamic island? Anyone want to wager?
Take that mini haters! BRING BACK THE MINI!
I've got a regular XS in my pocket right now. Replaced battery and great phone.
I look forward to the point where upgrade cycles regularly go out to four years and the phones have lifecycles like laptops. That should really be Apple's goal. And then charge a premium for that longer useful life.
The price hike this year is enormous, it's +250 EUR more for the same model you'd get last year, maybe that's why the pre-orders are low. Diluting the line-up with even more products is also a bad idea considering you can get a 13 Pro Max for 1,000 EUR if you want to go with a bigger form factor.
its called inflation! love my 13 mini and I wouldn't have bought a 14 mini pro, even if they had made it!
I would 100% upgrade to an iPhone 14 Pro mini if it existed. I would gladly pay $999 for it even if they had to charge extra for the additional R&D needed. I would also not even be mad about them taking the SIM card tray away for that model if they needed to do it to make all the components fit.
Very disappointed in apple forcing US users to have to go with a device that doesn’t have the sim tray that other countries do get.
I was actually most interested to see what the 14 mini was going to be like this Apple Event. It’s no surprise the plus is failing, the mini was more popular. It’s just a segment of people that upgrade less frequently. People who buy smaller phones tends to also be people who use their phones less on average.
Very disappointed in apple forcing US users to have to go with a device that doesn’t have the sim tray that other countries do get.
I was actually most interested to see what the 14 mini was going to be like this Apple Event. It’s no surprise the plus is failing, the mini was more popular. It’s just a segment of people that upgrade less frequently. People who buy smaller phones tends to also be people who use their phones less on average.
When I look at the currently available standard size iPhones: 12, 13, 14, 14 Pro, and compare features and prices, as much as I'd like the 14 Pro, the price is just insanity. So I end up just thinking, well, the 12 actually looks just fine. There's so much little extra in the higher priced models. The one single biggest thing I want in the 14 Pro, is the Space Black colour. But the price of that nice colour! The 14 is just a rip off price increase with last year's features. And the 12 and 13 are old models. Meh, I'll just stick with my SE2 after all. You can go jump off a bridge little Timmy.
Technology is getting cheaper as time progresses. Apple can increase some prices because they address markets and user requirements that no other company addresses. So it's getting even more expensive than it looks as the hardware costs are supposed to go down.
But a product consists of more than just the hardware costs. As it happened to computers, the usable lifetime of a mobile device has become longer and longer and so more development and other costs have to be priced in.
Yep. Those living paycheck to paycheck have much to prove. It starts with what kind of smartphone you have. Lol