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Kuo: iPhone 14 Plus Pre-Orders Worse Than iPhone 13 Mini, Product Strategy 'Fails'
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I'm really curious to see how you all feel about touch sensitivity around "the pill." I've seen several reviewers have to touch the thing twice to get it to activate. It seems like it takes a longer press than people first expect.
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Absolutely, with our cheaper materials and lack of pro-motion display, the 14 Plus will be lighter than the Pro Max, as well as the customer's wallet! That's just a joke, please pre order our new iPhone 14 Plus.
The difference is actually even slightly less than that. The U.S. price of 512GB iPhone 14 Plus is $1,229 (your figure included a $30 connectivity discount) while a 512GB iPhone 14 Pro Max is $1,399. A difference of $170.
Apple could've increased the prices of the Pro and Pro Max models by $100, as had been rumored, and given more separation between the regular/Plus and Pro/Pro Max but maybe kept prices the same as last year (in the U.S.) to try to encourage more Pro and Pro Max sales.
As long as the iPhone 13 Pro Max is still available, with the same processor but extra zoom camera, for a similar price...
To not compete with themselves:
- iPhone 5.8" and 6.4"
- iPhone Pro 6.1" and 6.7"
This is what happens when you go from selling 2 models of an iPhone to 8 models.
4 models?
That's just to make more money, presumably.
Bring the price down, so we don't need a loan to buy a phone, and reduce the models to 2. Stop this "Pro" crap. Shove the good stuff into the 1 model per year, plus a bigger screen option.
Done.
That's just to make more money, presumably.
Bring the price down, so we don't need a loan to buy a phone, and reduce the models to 2. Stop this "Pro" crap. Shove the good stuff into the 1 model per year, plus a bigger screen option.
Done.
SE
13 Mini
14
14 Pro
14 Pro Max
Would be a complete lineup everybody could enjoy.
And you could still remove the SE in favor of the Mini.
That's right, without the 14 Plus. Completely redundant product.
I'm so happy for this, Apple must suffer for EU sales, A LOT
12 mini has now been discontinued and the remaining (and better) 13 mini now sells for 599$ (US), £649 (UK) and anywhere between 715€-829€ in Europe.
Folks, let's slow our roll:
1. Do we know for a fact that Kuo's numbers are accurate? (no, we do not)
2. Even if they are accurate, there's usually more pent up demand for the pro models than the regular ones, so preorders would reflect this bias.
Our tendency to accept any news as true and immediately jump to conclusions is not a good look for a crowd that considers itself intelligent...
1. Do we know for a fact that Kuo's numbers are accurate? (no, we do not)
2. Even if they are accurate, there's usually more pent up demand for the pro models than the regular ones, so preorders would reflect this bias.
Our tendency to accept any news as true and immediately jump to conclusions is not a good look for a crowd that considers itself intelligent...
But that’s the thing. You might as well, because the Plus is still $900. If the plus was $700 for example, this might be a different story.
I only joined because it didn’t cost more than buying the phone and apple care normally. If it did I certainly wouldn’t have joined. The upgrade bit has always been just an option, not something compulsory. So I still don’t think I made a mistake joining, and if the programme won’t change I might join it again if and when apple releases a decent non pro iPhone that actually feel like an upgrade from iPhone 13.
Early birds are the enthusiasts aka all of us in this forum. Preorders are going to be people who want the pro. Wait until the phones are stocked at the Apple Store, and I be the 14 and 14 plus do just fine.
And why are we talking doom and gloom during the preorder period. Haven’t we learned this lesson 1,000 times before?
And why are we talking doom and gloom during the preorder period. Haven’t we learned this lesson 1,000 times before?
Adjusting for inflation, iPhone prices aren't necessarily as bad as they've been in the past e.g., back in 2011, the U.S. price of an iPhone 4S ranged from $649 (16GB) to $849 (64GB). In today's dollars, that would be around $850 to over $1,100.
You can get a better, larger 128GB iPhone 14 today for $829 USD. That's less than the inflation adjusted price of a 16GB 3.5" display 4S.
Sure, iPhones may have gotten more expensive at the upper end (Pro and Pro Max) but those levels of iPhones simply didn't exist years ago. No one is forced to go with a Pro or Pro Max.
I think they knew it would be this way, hence the insane price hikes. They know EU won't be buying a lot this year, not with the economic storm we are about to face here.
Last April stats came out indicating that the top four sellers in the world were iPhones, the 13, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, and the 12. The SE was 8th or something. The mini didn't even make the top 10 list. By Apple standards, its sales were absolutely abysmal.
It's no surprise the mini has been deleted. Basically nobody wanted it.
First of all… Apple is doing the same mistakes as they did when Steve Jobs left. They’re spreading too thin and make too many products. It’s confusing and they just can’t understand that they can’t make everyone happy. There’s no clear vision about their products and the only courage they have is when they remove useful things.