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I really can't understand why Apple doesn't simply use OLED technology for iPads. I mean, there are tablets out there (Lenovo P11 Pro) that use OLED and only cost 500 bucks. And OLED is superior to miniLED in every single way, with basically no drawback (pixel aging doesn't apply to tablets, it shouldn't stay on that much). So.. why?
My iPad screen is on 6h a day at least.
 
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Can we please get a 14” iPad Pro with the M1(X) chip? :D
I am ready to send my MacBook Pro back to my company as I can use everything I need on an iPad with Azure Windows Virtual Desktop.
 
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Yeah, we have OLED in 88 inch TVs. Why can't we have it in a 12.9 inch iPad?
Because not many want to pay for it. Just the same with the iPhone 11 Pro. Many people don’t want to pay for the OLED screen so they buy the standard iPhone 11.
 
March? I doubt it. iPad Pro is about 17-18 month refresh cycle. A15X in November 2021 wouldn’t be surprising. Nor would June/July with an A14X.
Even June would be surprisingly late. Rumors and supply chains had the iPP releasing at the END of 2020 with Covid moving it back. Recent rumors said the screen tech was ramping up production! Current supply chains are fine. China has been having no issues.

Most importantly, I would not call the 2020 pros A full update - still A12 series chip. I won’t be buying a chip that is 2 years old when the A14X has such seemingly significant advantages.
 
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In all honesty I don’t think Apple are going to release any new iPad Pro’s until mid-late 2021 now, I think the Pros will skip the A14X altogether and go straight for A15X just after the next iPhones, I think this will be an iPad Mini refresh.

My predictions of hardware for 2021 are:

March - iPad Mini, Apple TV, AirTags, AirPods, AirPods Studio.

June - Mac

September - iPhone 12S, More MagSafe Stuff, Maybe Apple AR Glasses

October - iPad Pro, Apple Pencil 3, Magic Keyboard 2

November - More Apple silicon Macs
No, Apple has a tick-tock processor cycle. Every other processor year (A8, A10, A12, A14), they use that processor and make a bunch of variations of that processor to use in other devices. The A12 (and variations), for instance, was in two iPhones, two iPad Pro generations, iPad Air, iPad Mini, and iPad. The A13 (a ”tock“ year) was only featured in one generation of iPhones (And the iPhone SE). The next iPad Pro gen will most likely use the A14X.
 
Yeah, the 10.2 iPad getting microLED is a head scratcher—especially in the absence of a 11" iPP or updated Air. Give the budget iPad the far better screen? There's some aspect of this leak that is getting lost in translation.

Mini LED is not micro LED I think. That one should show up a few years later.

And this is not a leak but speculation, at this point in time.
 
I strongly disagree. A tablet is much more similar in use to a phone than to a desktop/laptop. There is nothing static in a tablet interface or its use that would warrant such a concern. The tablet also doesn't stay plugged in for as many hours as a normal computer. It's just a different device, and all the other premium tablets on the market are OLED at this point. Except Apple.
You don't sound familiar with the types of apps that are available for tablets and not available for phones. Most of the professional apps that duplicate desktop/laptop functionality are only available on tablets. All of those kinds of apps will have plenty of static elements like menu bars and tool bars etc. that don't work well with OLED burn-in over the long haul.

Sure, there are tablets that use OLED but they're typically marketed towards people who want to use them like a portable TV...videos and video game use primarily. Someone mentioned Lenovo earlier in the thread and if you go to their OLED tablet promo site you'll see what I mean. The lead images and text are for movies/games.
 
March? I doubt it. iPad Pro is about 17-18 month refresh cycle. A15X in November 2021 wouldn’t be surprising. Nor would June/July with an A14X.
That timing isn't a strict rule they have to stick to, though. If they couldn't quite get miniLED ready in time I'm sure a shorter 12 month stopgap cycle with the current gen would be perfectly acceptable. By the same logic you could say the 16" MacBook Pro can't possibly have launched in November 2019, it must have launched in summer 2020.
 
Kuo originally said iPad Pro would be released 4Q20, and then more recently said the Mini Led displays being manufactured 4Q20 would be for the Pro. So the Pro looks first in line for mini LED.

Together with the other recent rumour of production on the iPad Pro starting in January I'd say Feb or March release is coming.

Kuos rumour of 1H21 now lines up with lovetodreams prediction for both iPad Pros.
 
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I really hope that Apple does not go OLED with the new iPads, like some are clamoring here. Burn in sucks hard.

I hate that Apple put it in iPhones, but the turnover rates for iPhones is MUCH higher (2 years) than that of an iPad, which is meant to be a computer replacement. Still, it is a downgrade from the durability perspective.
 
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Can we please get a 14” iPad Pro with the M1(X) chip? :D
I am ready to send my MacBook Pro back to my company as I can use everything I need on an iPad with Azure Windows Virtual Desktop.
I believe there is a reason for the different name designators. The chips must be optimized for the requirements of the individual OSes... I don't expect an iPad to have the same hardware requirements as a MacBook. I'd think an iPad would need to be far more efficient, maybe?
 
I thought Mini-LED was still far away from implementation. Isn't this the new technology that combines the best of OLED+LCD without any of the disadvantages?
 
I don't know why they even bothered with this week's M1 13" MBP. Hoping the 14" brings true 'pro' features with more ports and more RAM.
They ‘bothered’ because it replaced the low end 13”MacBook Pro, it replaced the same amount of ports with usb 4. It replaced the same amount of ram with unified memory. It replaced the cpu for something really a lot better by all accounts, and the gpu with something infinitely better. The next step with be the higher end machines. They’re coming don’t worry. But the low end pro has also always existed.
 
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There better be a "new" 11 IPP. :mad:
If this thing gets killed to promote new Air4 even more, i'll be pissed.
You make it sound as if the current level of marketing for the Air 4 is already somehow inproper. Care to elaborate on that?
 
I don't know why they even bothered with this week's M1 13" MBP. Hoping the 14" brings true 'pro' features with more ports and more RAM.
Oh, Apple has a product in its lineup you have no interest in (the 2-port 13" MBP, which started in 2016). How dare they?

BTW, if your point is that the 2-port 13" MBP had its raison d'être while it used Intel processors (as its Intel processor was noticeably faster than the one in the MBA) but that this reason doesn't exist anymore because its all M1 now, let me first remind you that the edge it had over the MBA has varied over time. Initially (2016) it had the same processor category (U-series, though the MBP was clocked slightly higher) but its real edge was its retina screen. Then when the MBA got retina, the MBA went down in the processor category to the Y-series. But earlier this year the MBA got a 4-core option, yet again coming close in performence to the 2-port MBP.

The ARM 2-port MBP might have basically the same processor (except for that extra graphic core) as the ARM MBA but to quote Federighi: "With the MacBook Pro, ‌MacBook Air‌, and Mac mini all using the same chip at variable price points, the main differentiating factor is thermal capacity. The ‌MacBook Air‌ has no fan and uses passive cooling, while the MacBook Pro has an active cooling system for faster performance." Other reasons are the extra battery capacity and the TouchBar (for those that find it useful), a brighter screen and better microphones.

Of course the reason why Apple created something in-between the MBA and the 4-port 13" MBP is that it wanted to offer something that bridges the price gap between the former and the latter. You might fault Apple for offering too many different products per category but Apple at least makes this a clear hierarchy via its pricing steps. Just look at the iPhone:
  • iPhone SE 2: $399 (64 GB)
  • iPhone Xr: $499 (64 GB)
  • iPhone 11: $599 (64 GB)
  • iPhone 12 mini: $699 (64 GB)
  • iPhone 12: $799 (64 GB)
  • iPhone 12 Pro: $999 (128 GB)
  • iPhone 12 Pro Max: $1099 (128 GB)
If you add storage options, the gap between the 12 and 12 Pro is filled-in further (iPhone 12, 128 GB, $849) and there remains a constant $150 price gap between the 12 and the 12 Pro at the 256 GB storage level, ditto for the $100 price gap between all non-Pro iPhones that remains constant for all three available storage levels.
 
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I really can't understand why Apple doesn't simply use OLED technology for iPads. I mean, there are tablets out there (Lenovo P11 Pro) that use OLED and only cost 500 bucks. And OLED is superior to miniLED in every single way, with basically no drawback (pixel aging doesn't apply to tablets, it shouldn't stay on that much). So.. why?
So you are saying that there of course must be a good reason for Apple to do so but unfortunately you don't know what it is?
 
Apple might or might not discontinue the smaller Pro, who can say? It depends on how well it sells, I suppose. If the Air steals most of the premium 11” form factor sales, the 11” Pro is probably done 🙁

If it is discontinued, the higher-end options will be limited to only the 10.9” Air and a 12.9” Pro. But hopefully, the 11” Pro stays around. Some want an iPad Pro mini, but that would sell even less than the 11” Pro I would guess.
The 11" iPad Pro has enough features to separate it from the 10.9" iPad Air. If Apple cancels it, that would be unfortunate for those that love that model.
 
14" Macbook Pro redesign, Mini LED, with Apple Silicon...I would part with so much money. Hopefully the dual fan/four port model is waiting on the wings with all that.
 
I wonder if this could suggest a split of the iMac line, into iMac [Air?] (smaller, lower quality display) and iMac Pro (higher quality display, available in larger sizes).

with the rumours of a 24” version of iMac, and this mini-LED 27” version , that could bring the iMac more into line with the divisions in the MacBook line. It would also let Apple apply a processor a step up from M1 to iMac, and then low-end/mid pro level chip to the iMac Pro.
 
Its possible they might kill off the 11" Pro, keep the 12.9" at the same current price, and introduce a bigger Pro for more expensive
 
Even June would be surprisingly late. Rumors and supply chains had the iPP releasing at the END of 2020 with Covid moving it back. Recent rumors said the screen tech was ramping up production! Current supply chains are fine. China has been having no issues.

Most importantly, I would not call the 2020 pros A full update - still A12 series chip. I won’t be buying a chip that is 2 years old when the A14X has such seemingly significant advantages.
I’d prefer the usual November release, which would be an A15 derivative. Not that it really matters; A14X would be fine as well.

Hell, the complaint I hear most about iPad Pro is that no one needs that much power in an iPad lol. Is anyone really pushing the A12Z?

The March 2020 model that people like to complain about had plenty of upgrades to hold it over until 2021 (except for a faster processor no one seems to need), including lower pricing.

Whether March or November, a 2021 iPad Pro with miniLED, a new SoC and 5G, plus whatever other upgrades apple throws in, will make for an excellent upgrade no doubt.
 
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A new iPad Mini with slimmer bezels is top of my list. Give me one of those and I'll switch out my iPhone 12 Pro Max for an iPhone Mini, and be happy for the rest of my life.
I would jump on a full screen iPad Mini as well, but unfortunately I don’t see it happening. I say this only because I think it would cannibalize sales of the other sizes too much, and the price would have to be at least $599. I’ll probably end up going to the Pro Max like you as a substitute for this. At least the screen quality would be better on the Pro Max.
 
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