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Kuo: New 31.6" Apple Display in 2019 and 15-17" MacBook in 2021 to Feature Mini-LED Backlights [Updated]
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i would love me a 31.6", i could finally upgrade my 30" displays)
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Geeze. Relax, if you get this worked up with rumors, I’d hate to see what gets ur panties in a wad in real life.
I agree, I too have been waiting since 2009 for Apple to make a better Mac Pro.
I've given up though, as when it does eventually arrive you just know it's design will still be unfit for purpose and it'll be priced too high too which will harm sales and thus fulfil Apple's belief that their customers don't want a flagship Mac - which of course is utter nonsense.
They just don't want a flagship product that's spiralling in cost (being 30% more than it used to be) and dwindling in functionality.
In 2005 Apple's flagship quad core G5 tower was $1999.00
In 2006 the first Mac Pro was $500 more at $2499 and by 2013 the trashcan Mac Pro began at $2999 - that's an increase of $1000 for a flagship Mac in just 8 years.
Compare this to an iMac which is nearly 20% less. It was $1299 in 2005 and just $1099 by 2013.
Apple have to get their head out of their arses and put a halt to the escalating costs and diminishing functionality of ALL their computers.
I've had money burning my pockets eager to go into Apple's for almost a decade now, but they have managed to make their newer items a sideways step at best and a backward step at worst on nearly every model they make from iMacs to MacBook Pro's to Mac Pro's - and don't get me started on the Mac Mini!!!!
Apple have shown time & time again that they simply will not revert to releasing products that people actually want so there is no longer value in owning them.
I've always been happy to pay a bit of a premium for a Mac, but Apple have pushed the boundaries on this to the extreme over the last decade or so and they are no longer good value which they were in the past.
So I've stopped caring now as even if they announced a perfect Mac Pro tomorrow it's likely it'd be beyond my means anyway.
That's without factoring a screen which we all know will be far more to purchase than it should too and going by Apple's recent history will probably have 'issues'.
So yes Apple have done the unthinkable and turned an avid supporter of their product into an 'old fan'.
It's like loving the Music of Depeche Mode up until 1996. Then Alan Wilder leaves and their music is just not as good, but unlike Apple Depeche Mode don't charge 30% more for it too!
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this rumors are clearly wrong. Apple present an all new MacBook Pro every 4 years... so 2020 will be de the year...
The exception here was the original rumor of a all new MacBook Pro this 2019....
From my perspective both options has the same chances....
The exception here was the original rumor of a all new MacBook Pro this 2019....
From my perspective both options has the same chances....
Apple favored the 16:10 aspect ratio for their Cinema Displays until the they released the 27” LED Cinema Display and the 27” Thunderbolt Display. I suspect they will stick with the 16:9 aspect ratio, although 16:10 is a slim possibility. That being said, I would estimate that the native resolution of a rumored Apple’s 6K Cinema Display would be 6144x3456, which is 1.5x the resolution of the current 21.5” 4K iMac’s display. At the rumored 31.5” display size, it also works out to be 223 DPI, which is consistent with Apple’s philosophy on what qualifies as “Retina” for the Desktop.
The cost will probably be between $1999 and $2499, but could get as high as $2999. Remember the old 30” Apple Cinema Display debuted at an eye-watering $3299 (for the times) in June of 2004. If it includes any “new and ground breaking” display technologies (120Hz Pro Motion, HDR support, expanded beyond P3 color gamut) expect it to hit $2499-$2999. Hopefully Apple will also add a Thunderbolt hub in there as well (USB-C ports, 10Gb Ethernet port, 85w charging).
Hopefully, Apple will also release similarly spec’ed 4K 22” and 5K 27” displays at $999 and $1499 to give users a choice for their 2019 iMac, 2018 Mac mini, 2018 MacBook Air and 2018 MacBook Pro...and, maybe, the 2017 iMac Pro, but do not bet the farm on it.
The cost will probably be between $1999 and $2499, but could get as high as $2999. Remember the old 30” Apple Cinema Display debuted at an eye-watering $3299 (for the times) in June of 2004. If it includes any “new and ground breaking” display technologies (120Hz Pro Motion, HDR support, expanded beyond P3 color gamut) expect it to hit $2499-$2999. Hopefully Apple will also add a Thunderbolt hub in there as well (USB-C ports, 10Gb Ethernet port, 85w charging).
Hopefully, Apple will also release similarly spec’ed 4K 22” and 5K 27” displays at $999 and $1499 to give users a choice for their 2019 iMac, 2018 Mac mini, 2018 MacBook Air and 2018 MacBook Pro...and, maybe, the 2017 iMac Pro, but do not bet the farm on it.
yes, I don't need a 31.5 or even a 27 monitor, a 22 is enough for me, I hope they release multiple sizes not that big and expensive thing of 31.5.
That sounds good to me. I’m probably one of the few who’d actually like a 17” laptop. Powerful like a desktop but still portable. Perfect combo for me
You are not the only one. I still use my 17" Early 2011 with maxed out RAM and SSD Aftermarket. I missed the obseletion so the battery is basically useless (approx 1hr before needing plugged in). Waiting for a 16.5-17" rebirth!!!!
Your suggestion is not new, but not likely in the cards as Apple tends not to regress. The evidence is the rumor of Apple moving from 15.4” to 16.0”-16.5”. I am hoping that Apple moves the current 13.3” MacBook Pro up to 14” to accommodate Intel’s upcoming 6-core 28w U-Series. This would make it easier for Apple to release a 15.4” version of the MacBook Air, which I know many users here on this forum would like to see released.
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It would help Apple to be able to have a lineup of Apple Cinema Displays as they had years ago (20”, 23” and 30”) that were much admired, had great pictures and last forever (I still have a 20” that works great).
I would say to temper expectations as Apple’s 27” Thunderbolt Display was a terrible piece of kit, suffered firmware issues and was never updated to Thunderbolt 2, and was only discontinued in 2016 because Apple was moving to Thunderbolt 3. This is my knock against Tim Cook...this and the Airport discontinuation. Both were bad decisions all the way around, IMHO. I hope that Apple learns from its mistakes.
The 13" pro has a few part quality improvements over the air (such as a higher quality screen), but typically doesn't have major performance differences. In the absence of a clear differentiator, people will probably go for the cheaper model.
My money in the pool is on their notebook line finally settling down to three models (without multiple screen sizes per model):
- Macbook, smallest size, ultraportable optimized for "executive travel", likely not the cheapest model
- MacBook Air, mid size, optimized for cost, most popular
- MacBook Pro, large size, dedicated GPU/memory, most powerful components they can fit in given power constraints (~85W max steady TDP)
If they start rolling out ARM-based CPUs, I would expect it to land in the MacBook or Air first. We might see future generations of the T2 chip slowly subsume more functions first (like background processing during x86 machine hibernation, thunderbolt/usb controller, gpu) , and even become a ARM coprocessor to allow for machines to run both ARM and x86 code for a period of time vs rosetta-style subsystems - which Intel may not license their patents on the newer x86 instruction sets to support.
IRL? Everything.
But yeah, my annoyance doesn’t come from nowhere. I really, really, need a new MBP, and the 16inch would force a redesign. Hence I wouldn’t have to drop 4K on a rubbish keyboard. Now the chances are much higher that I will have to do exactly that and I’m not keen. All of these things create mild emotions inside me.
Actually the difference is huge.
- 1 means that if your computer needs repair, you can unscrew the back, replace the trackpad with a simple screwdriver, and if you manage to unglue the batteries with a lot of effort, you can still pretty much replace and repair anything you want in the computer, with the exception of what's soldered in and the stupid riveted keyboard. It means if Apple won't fix your computer or they quote you $600 to replace a battery or $1500 to fix a display connector (which is what happens), you have the choice of going to a 3rd party repair shop and getting it repaired for a fraction of the price, because they can unglue the battery and put it back.
- 0 means if your computer needs repair, you take the computer, and put it in the trash.
If Apple can pull this off, that bodes well for the industry
OLED looks great on Laptops and PC monitors, superior to LCDs today (not in gaming though), but has not been widely adopted yet for multiple reasons outside of price...its just not practical at that scale because of the issues that burn in can bring productivity users. Its not like a phone where you are turning on and off your screen hundreds of times per day and on a small scale where software can make micro adjustments. It's different when its always on, 24/7 in some cases.
I hope Apple releases this monitor this year...I also hope its not too prohibitive in price but no doubt anything with new tech like this, it will be
micro LED has incredible potential.
OLED looks great on Laptops and PC monitors, superior to LCDs today (not in gaming though), but has not been widely adopted yet for multiple reasons outside of price...its just not practical at that scale because of the issues that burn in can bring productivity users. Its not like a phone where you are turning on and off your screen hundreds of times per day and on a small scale where software can make micro adjustments. It's different when its always on, 24/7 in some cases.
I hope Apple releases this monitor this year...I also hope its not too prohibitive in price but no doubt anything with new tech like this, it will be
micro LED has incredible potential.
That’s been my dream machine for so long…
That said, I don’t want one with a butterfly keyboard
Yep, it's rough.
I hope the Mac Pro will answer our prayers but my gut feeling it's going to be overpriced and Apple will figure out a way to keep us upgrading it using only Apple parts and paying that absurd premium tax.
That said, if the above it's true, I will probably revamp my MP 2011 and squeeze couple more years out of it and after that consider a Hackintosh or worst a PC. Wow, I can't believe I'm saying this.
This rumor has nothing to do with OLED or micro LED, it’s about the type of backlighting Apple will be using for their LCD panels.
IF customers stopped buying new MacBooks until there's a redesign THEN I'm pretty sure that redesign would get here a lot sooner.
The problem is that Apple knows that it can count on its Fan Bois to buy anything they introduce, even if it is unreliable crap. That's why Apple is in this mess ... they simply don't give a damn. You'll buy what they tell you to buy and you'll live with it, because they say so.
Sorry, Timmy, I have a problem with that and I'll be buying something else. Join me, won't you?
The problem is that Apple knows that it can count on its Fan Bois to buy anything they introduce, even if it is unreliable crap. That's why Apple is in this mess ... they simply don't give a damn. You'll buy what they tell you to buy and you'll live with it, because they say so.
Sorry, Timmy, I have a problem with that and I'll be buying something else. Join me, won't you?
Definitely. And then he changes his predictions at the very last minute when real leaks have come out. And then everyone believes he's a master analytical guru... what a joke.
People MiniLED is not MicroLED...think of something similar to quantum dot displays...just another LCD IPS display with enhanced brightness, smaller LEDs, contrast and more local dimming....
https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/645696/microled-vs-mini-led-what-difference/
There goes any chance of a OLED iPad..........for the next few years.....but at least the iPad will one day have true HDR capabilities....
https://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/645696/microled-vs-mini-led-what-difference/
There goes any chance of a OLED iPad..........for the next few years.....but at least the iPad will one day have true HDR capabilities....
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After reading the Wikipedia article on Quantum Dot technology, I am wondering if MiniLED will help to increase the actual color gamut that this rumored 6K Cinema Display monitor can display and move Apple past DCI P3 and over to Rec. 2020/2100. Maybe that’s realistic, maybe it isn’t. Maybe Mini LED will make this possible or maybe I am all wet.
You are not alone... not me personally, but many on the forums here have expressed their desire for such a product.
I really would like Apple to move the MacBook Pro to 14”-ish and 16”-17”-ish and the Air remain at 13.3” and add a 15.4” version, but move both Airs to 15w U-Series, stop wasting time with Y-Series CPUs and restrict them to just the 12” MacBook.
We can dream.
Apple got rid of the 17" MBP due to low sales. I use my iPad with Luna when I need more desktop or an external monitor at home. People buy laptops for PORTABILITY - lugging around a big ass laptop is not fun