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I bought the 13 Pro for better battery life and I am indeed happy with that, but I cant tell if its faster than the iPhone 12 Pro, people are just to hung up on stats when in real life on a phone they mean very little in performance.

Right, but why do you think the 13 Pro has better battery life than the 12 Pro? A lot of it is because the A15 is more efficient - it gets more done per unit of energy than the A14.

Or to put it another way, the speed gains may not be noticeable to most users, but that gain also means it's using less energy to do the same work, and the battery life gains sure are noticeable.
 
I don't understand how people, especially men (usually no bag/purse), deal with these giant phones.

They are just so heavy and awkward in your pocket, can't use easily one handed, etc. If you want a big screen at home just use a laptop or tablet.

On the go I want something light and portable.
 
I don't understand how people, especially men (usually no bag/purse), deal with these giant phones.

They are just so heavy and awkward in your pocket, can't use easily one handed, etc. If you want a big screen at home just use a laptop or tablet.

On the go I want something light and portable.
I'm a guy who prefers big phones (Pixel 4a 5G, Pixel 6, Honor 9x) and have no problems putting them in my back pocket or using them with one hand which I do 85% of the time. I held the largest iPhones made at Best Buy and thought they were no big deal in size.
 
I'm a guy who prefers big phones (Pixel 4a 5G, Pixel 6, Honor 9x) and have no problems putting them in my back pocket or using them with one hand which I do 85% of the time. I held the largest iPhones made at Best Buy and thought they were no big deal in size.
No problems reaching the top right corner with your thumb on the Pro Max to access Control Center? No problems swiping through the keyboard to write quicker? Well, in that case you’re privileged with your huge hands.

I don’t have small hands, mind you. I would say I’m on the bigger side of the average size. And I’m comfortable using the 4,7” iPhone 8 or the 13 mini with just one hand, I can reach the top right for CC, or even the top left for some “back” buttons (although I usually just swipe from the left border), but I am not able to do this on the 6.1” iPhones. And even tho I can swipe across the keyboard to type, with the 6.1” size it’s just much more uncomfortable.

Regarding the pocket, I would never put my iPhone in the rear pocket, because it can fall or be stolen.
 
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When big phones first started coming out, around my workplace the ones with the biggest phones tended to be small women with small hands. They would just use two hands. And they would just put their phones in their purses.

I am male and am relatively short by North American standards. I usually have no problems with my Pro Max in my front pocket. Are you guys just wearing skinny jeans or something?
 
No problems reaching the top right corner with your thumb on the Pro Max to access Control Center? No problems swiping through the keyboard to write quicker? Well, in that case you’re privileged with your huge hands.

I don’t have small hands, mind you. I would say I’m on the bigger side of the average size. And I’m comfortable using the 4,7” iPhone 8 or the 13 mini with just one hand, I can reach the top right for CC, or even the top left for some “back” buttons (although I usually just swipe from the left border), but I am not able to do this on the 6.1” iPhones. And even tho I can swipe across the keyboard to type, with the 6.1” size it’s just much more uncomfortable.

Regarding the pocket, I would never put my iPhone in the rear pocket, because it can fall or be stolen.
There's no way you are reaching the back button with one hand/thumb without major shifting the phone completely in your hand.

Just go try it now and watch how you end up manipulating the phone by adjusting the grip to mid-phone.
 
There's no way you are reaching the back button with one hand/thumb without major shifting the phone completely in your hand.

Just go try it now and watch how you end up manipulating the phone by adjusting the grip to mid-phone.
The Pro Max is roughly the same size as my Pixel 4a 5G. No problem handling a Pro Max with one hand. You just learn to adapt and position your hand differently. One of the nice features about Android is that your back button is now a gesture. Swipe left from the screen edge within any app and it mimics the back button. That’s a feature I would like to see Apple implement into iOS or iPadOS. It’s really handy.
 
There's no way you are reaching the back button with one hand/thumb without major shifting the phone completely in your hand.

Just go try it now and watch how you end up manipulating the phone by adjusting the grip to mid-phone.


But yeah, I agree with you, there’s no way I could do that, or even reaching Control Center, with a 6.1” iPhone.
 
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The Pro Max is roughly the same size as my Pixel 4a 5G. No problem handling a Pro Max with one hand. You just learn to adapt and position your hand differently. One of the nice features about Android is that your back button is now a gesture. Swipe left from the screen edge within any app and it mimics the back button. That’s a feature I would like to see Apple implement into iOS or iPadOS. It’s really handy.

There’s a pretty similar, and handy feature introduced on iOS 14, in accessibility, where just with a couple of taps on the back of the iPhone, you can lower the screen, or call the Control Center, among other actions. But still, even with those useful features, I feel clumsy using a 6.1” iPhone with one hand.
 
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I don't understand how people, especially men (usually no bag/purse), deal with these giant phones.

They are just so heavy and awkward in your pocket, can't use easily one handed, etc. If you want a big screen at home just use a laptop or tablet.

On the go I want something light and portable.

Back pocket when walking. On the table when sitting down. In the center console or cup holder when driving.
 
I don't understand how people, especially men (usually no bag/purse), deal with these giant phones.

They are just so heavy and awkward in your pocket, can't use easily one handed, etc. If you want a big screen at home just use a laptop or tablet.

On the go I want something light and portable.
I tried a phablet phone for one upgrade and loved the phone on the whole but the issues with portability were a complete pain. It looked like I had a roofing tile on my thigh and whenever I sat down I’d have to take the phone out my pocket. Downsizing to the 6.1” iPhone 12 was a good feeling. The screen is big enough and for anything bigger I own an iPad.
Back pocket when walking. On the table when sitting down. In the center console or cup holder when driving.
The back pocket is a no no for me. I’d sit on it without doubt and wouldn’t want to have to keep taking it out just to sit down. Plus the back pocket isn’t practical in towns and cities in the UK as your phone would be nicked in no time at all.
 
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I think Apple’s intention is to create a selling point to upgrade to the more expensive models.

Switching to Android would be a hassle. I would rather keep my iPhone a little longer and use the money to purchase one of the expensive iPhones with the latest SoC.

So, if I bought iPhone 13 standard with A15 and the 14 is come with the same chip, skip the 14, 15 and go straight to a iPhone 16 Pro.
I do not want to be 1 generation behind in chips, and I also do not want to have 3 cameras.
 
I do not want to be 1 generation behind in chips, and I also do not want to have 3 cameras.
What specifically about the SoC requires that you have the latest? Hundreds of millions of iPhone users are on A series SoCs that are 5 to 8 generations behind. They are able to still do 98% of what most smartphone users do. I’m still on an iPhone X which Apple is likely to support for a few more revs.
 
What specifically about the SoC requires that you have the latest? Hundreds of millions of iPhone users are on A series SoCs that are 5 to 8 generations behind. They are able to still do 98% of what most smartphone users do. I’m still on an iPhone X which Apple is likely to support for a few more revs.

I think is that for most people it's going to be hard to notice the difference of the latest SOC. However, there are a few reasons to want the latest:

1. In the past, new SOCs meant a pretty big jump in performance in the mobile world, like 15-20% vs. desktops that were only gaining 5-7%
2. People are keeping phones longer now - it's not uncommon to keep a phone 3-4 years
3. Newer SOCs also offer power savings. Probably not a ton, but might gain you 5%+ more life, maybe 30min+
4. Newer SOCs might also offer other feature specific performance improvements beyond raw IPC. For example, continually improved ML cores, etc.

I'd love to see a high accuracy GPS get into iPhones. The current ones are kind of crappy.
 
I think is that for most people it's going to be hard to notice the difference of the latest SOC. However, there are a few reasons to want the latest:

1. In the past, new SOCs meant a pretty big jump in performance in the mobile world, like 15-20% vs. desktops that were only gaining 5-7%
2. People are keeping phones longer now - it's not uncommon to keep a phone 3-4 years
3. Newer SOCs also offer power savings. Probably not a ton, but might gain you 5%+ more life, maybe 30min+
4. Newer SOCs might also offer other feature specific performance improvements beyond raw IPC. For example, continually improved ML cores, etc.

I'd love to see a high accuracy GPS get into iPhones. The current ones are kind of crappy.
Yeah, you’ll see that dramatic jump if you are going from say an A9 or even A11 to an A15. But I don’t think going from a A15 to A16 will get you much in the way of dramatic performance.

What I think Apple is gonna do is bring the M1 or M2 down to the iPhone Pro and leave the standard iPhones on A series.
 
Yeah, you’ll see that dramatic jump if you are going from say an A9 or even A11 to an A15. But I don’t think going from a A15 to A16 will get you much in the way of dramatic performance.

What I think Apple is gonna do is bring the M1 or M2 down to the iPhone Pro and leave the standard iPhones on A series.

Well, part of the appeal would also be if the A16 had a significant jump. The A14->A15 performance improvement was almost nothing, another reason that staying on A15 would be annoying. An iPhone 14 would have very similar performance to an iPhone 12.
 
I tried a phablet phone for one upgrade and loved the phone on the whole but the issues with portability were a complete pain. It looked like I had a roofing tile on my thigh and whenever I sat down I’d have to take the phone out my pocket. Downsizing to the 6.1” iPhone 12 was a good feeling. The screen is big enough and for anything bigger I own an iPad.

The back pocket is a no no for me. I’d sit on it without doubt and wouldn’t want to have to keep taking it out just to sit down. Plus the back pocket isn’t practical in towns and cities in the UK as your phone would be nicked in no time at all.
Yeah, I never understood phablets.
 
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Well, part of the appeal would also be if the A16 had a significant jump. The A14->A15 performance improvement was almost nothing, another reason that staying on A15 would be annoying. An iPhone 14 would have very similar performance to an iPhone 12.
The question is what performance gain in regards to a smartphone? Those teens I see walking around on the ave aren’t doing business intelligence on their phones. Even if they were, most of that would be server side. Sure, if you are trying to future proof the phone it might be an advantage to have the latest SoC. I think even Apple is seeing a bit of redundancy with having a faster SoC every year with nominal gains. Android phones are just catching up to the A11 from 5 years ago. The pressing issue is user experience.
 
The question is what performance gain in regards to a smartphone? Those teens I see walking around on the ave aren’t doing business intelligence on their phones. Even if they were, most of that would be server side. Sure, if you are trying to future proof the phone it might be an advantage to have the latest SoC. I think even Apple is seeing a bit of redundancy with having a faster SoC every year with nominal gains. Android phones are just catching up to the A11 from 5 years ago. The pressing issue is user experience.

Generally agree, but software bloat seems to just keep dragging things down. My iPhone 8 for example def feels a bit laggy.
 
Generally agree, but software bloat seems to just keep dragging things down. My iPhone 8 for example def feels a bit laggy.
I don’t think it’s the applications on the phone since those have to be loaded into RAM and once they do they pretty fast already. Also remember too, devs might not be optimizing the app, you might also need to replace the battery which can affect performance. Where I’m starting to see performance issues on my iPhone X is when I’m loading my photo library.
 
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