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"Standard ‌iPhone 15‌ models will continue to feature USB 2.0 speeds, the same as Lightning".

You mean "same as all current iPhones". My iPad Pro 12.7" (2nd Gen) has lightning, yet still supports USB 3.0 transfer speeds. It's got nothing to do with the physical port spec. I suspect they'll just keep using the same USB controller.

It makes sense from a differentiation standpoint; as well as use cases. A pro model owner using RAW would benefit from faster speeds while most base model users are not likely to notice the difference.
 
"Standard ‌iPhone 15‌ models will continue to feature USB 2.0 speeds, the same as Lightning".

You mean "same as all current iPhones". My iPad Pro 12.7" (2nd Gen) has lightning, yet still supports USB 3.0 transfer speeds. It's got nothing to do with the physical port spec. I suspect they'll just keep using the same USB controller.

The USB controller is built in to the A-series SoC. So yes, if it's still the same SoC, which it will be except in the Pro, it will still support the same USB speeds.
 
$349 Google Pixel 4a from more than 2 years ago has USB-C 3.1. It's definitely not a technical challenge. With Apple, you can certainly believe it's a matter of cost control.
The Galaxy Note 3 had USB 3.0 and was released 10 years ago, in 2013.

Tim Cook is really this unethical towards customers.
 
The USB controller is built in to the A-series SoC. So yes, if it's still the same SoC, which it will be except in the Pro, it will still support the same USB speeds.
The iPad Mini and iPhone 13 have the same SOC but one supports USB 2.0 and the other USB 3.1.
 
The Galaxy Note 3 had USB 3.0 and was released 10 years ago, in 2013.

Tim Cook is really this unethical towards customers.
I presume most customers just don't care. I mean in my family of 7 iPhone owners, I am the only one to ever plug my phone into anything other than a charger.

The most unbelievable thing about it all are that there are people who really think it is important!
 
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Because cellphones cost around $200, you can get good ones for $400, and only flagship phones are in the $800+ range. And Apple's trying to peddle a flagship price with lackluster features more commonly found in $200-$400 phones.
...and still iPhones sell like hotcakes. What does that tell you about the average iPhone customer?
 
No. The controller is separate from SoC. iPhone 13 Pro for instance uses a Type-C controller from Infineon.


Yes, but this controller only supports USB 2.x data speeds. Implementing Thunderbolt and USB 4 requires either additional support from the SoC, or a much more complex (and expensive!) controller chip. Since Apple are very unlikely to want to pay for the later, it's a safe bet that Thunderbolt / USB 4 support is baked in to the A17.

For the same reason, iPads with the M1/M2 SoCs support Thunderbolt / USB 4, while the other iPad models with A-series SoCs do not, even though they have USB-C ports.
 
To be honest I'm looking forward to this not just because it'll mean all my devices can charge off the same cable but muh better HDMI output hopefully. The way it works now with Lightning is pretty low quality, does the job when I'm stuck in hotels but would prefer to have a better quality output. My Android runs rings around it with a USB C cable, they can hopefully get rid of the weird Airplay workaround in the HDMI adapter.
 
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To be honest I'm looking forward to this not just because it'll mean all my devices can charge off the same cable but muh better HDMI output hopefully. The way it works now with Lightning is pretty low quality, does the job when I'm stuck in hotels but would prefer to have a better quality output. My Android runs rings around it with a USB C cable, they can hopefully get rid of the weird Airplay workaround in the HDMI adapter.

I think so. Based on iPad's video output capabilities, I'd guess that standard iPhone 15 / 15 Plus will be able to do 4K @ 30Hz while the 15 Pro will be able to do the full 4K @ 60 Hz. Still better than Lightning which is limited to 1080p, I think. But either way, at least you'll be able to use standard USB-C cables and HDMI adapters.
 
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I think so. Based on iPad's video output capabilities, I'd guess that standard iPhone 15 / 15 Plus will be able to do 4K @ 30Hz while the 15 Pro will be able to do the full 4K @ 60 Hz. Still better than Lightning which is limited to 1080p, I think. But either way, at least you'll be able to use standard USB-C cables and HDMI adapters.
Be living the dream 😉

Seems might only get 6GB RAM again but if they put in 8GB they could have maybe also put in Stage Manager just on external screen if you wanted. Still suspect this is something we'll have to wait for a folding iPhone for before more iPad features maybe make its way to the phone.
 
The Galaxy Note 3 had USB 3.0 and was released 10 years ago, in 2013.

Tim Cook is really this unethical towards customers.
I have one one my bed beside me. It used a bizarre wider connector for that but it never caught on. The phone also had 4K recording and three gigs of ram. Nobody believed it when the specs came out.
 
...and still iPhones sell like hotcakes. What does that tell you about the average iPhone customer?
That ecosystem, OS, and features that arent the ones that are a spec sheet comparison in certain areas matter?
 
That ecosystem, OS, and features that arent the ones that are a spec sheet comparison in certain areas matter?
More likely it tells you that they either don't care or that they don't know any better. I'm willing to wager that the people who are invested in the ecosystem as a percentage of iPhone sales are in a minority.
 
I presume most customers just don't care. I mean in my family of 7 iPhone owners, I am the only one to ever plug my phone into anything other than a charger.

The most unbelievable thing about it all are that there are people who really think it is important!
If speeds faster than USB 2.0 are not important, then why is Apple allowing RAW image files and 4K video? Why not just eliminate those two things by using cheaper camera components so Apple can maximize profits even more for themselves and shareholders? I bet the numerous Tim Cook apologists on this forum would support it!
 
If speeds faster than USB 2.0 are not important, then why is Apple allowing RAW image files and 4K video? Why not just eliminate those two things by using cheaper camera components so Apple can maximize profits even more for themselves and shareholders? I bet the numerous Tim Cook apologists on this forum would support it!
Camera quality is important to users, cable transfer speeds are not.
 
Camera quality is important to users, cable transfer speeds are not.
The higher the camera quality, the lager the file sizes for photos and videos. There are iPhone users who want to transfer multiple large RAW image and 4K video files to their Macs (or PCs). How can that be done in a fast manner while using slow USB 2.0 speeds?
 
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Over a decent/fast WiFi connection of course… 😉
Thunderbolt 3, Thunderbolt 4, and USB 4 are much faster than Wi-Fi. Macs have had Thunderbolt since 2011. That was 12 years ago. What is the point of including Thunderbolt on Macs if iPhones don't support it? When transferring hundreds of gigabytes of data (such as with backups), speed matters. But I'm sure the many Tim Cook apologists on this forum will find an excuse to try and justify his greed and lack of product vision.
 
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The higher the camera quality, the lager the file sizes for photos and videos. There are iPhone users who want to transfer multiple large RAW image and 4K video files to their Macs (or PCs). How can that be done in a fast manner while using slow USB 2.0 speeds?
It can’t.
 
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