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If they weren’t forced to use USB C on iPhones we’d be stuck with the lightning port and slow USB 2.0 speeds forever - and that would be perfectly fine with 
Slow speed by design, so users wouldn’t bother transferring files off their iPhone and their iPhone Storage would fill up faster, netting more customers purchasing iPhones with larger storage tiers.
 
I will be buying iPhone 15 Pro, but the fact that Apple will have iPhone 15 at much slower speeds, let alone USB 2.0 speeds is sickening and embarrassing.

Apple is absolute garbage now. Run purely by operations teams and no longer about great design and hardware. You can see it in everything they do, and you’ll see it increase next year when they add the iPhone 15 Ultra which is yet another differentiation to get people to pay the $100-$200 more.

Tons of different iPhones now, all with different features and prices

You know what’s hilarious though? The people who only try to improve bottom line are actually the least-intelligent. They’re alienating the customers but they’re too stupid to realize it. In the end, it always results in less money, because they are alienating and hurting what made Apple: hardware and design leading all.
 
This is a very Apple thing to do sadly and something they seem to be known for more often of late. It’s all to justify the higher cost devices having exclusive features even if those features are common throughout the industry on devices a fraction of the iPhones cost.

Dual cameras on a £1k iPhone in 2022 for instance. All so a Pro can have a third lens and be exclusive. Pencil 1 only support on a £500 iPad 10. Remember how late they were to introduce wireless charging and OLED? The latter being reserved for the top end devices when a £400 Samsung could be found with an OLED screen lol. Sorry Apple, but consumers are starting to get wise and prices are starting to overtake the quality of what is on offer.
 
I’d bet the non-pros get usb 3 w’out thunderbolt and the pros get thunderbolt/usb4 personally, I doubt it’ll be thunderbolt across the line, I do hope they dont decide to be exceptionally petty and stick the non pros with usb 2.0, that would be absurd
They will upgrade everything by 1% and keep 2.0 and then post low end 15 not selling well again
 
This got me scratching my head. I can't fathom the difference in the cost of putting in USB 2 vs USB 3.2 being so great that it would be a hindrance.

It could be related to design and chip availability and sourcing so that he cost of designing, sourcing and fabricating a higher speed connection were deemed to high at this time.
 
It meets the requirements. The law doesn’t force manufacturers to add a USB-C port if the device can’t be charged by wire.
And it totally makes no sense. If wireless or wireless C are good then why is Wireless L bad. You cam do more with Wireless L than just wireless
 
Show me a non-Apple phone that runs iOS, and I'll buy it.

The problem is that I don't want a phone OS produced by an advertising company. I used Windows Phone until I literally couldn't.

If Apple continues pushing the ad business, I may bail out, but I'm not sure what I'd switch to. Windows isn't viable, and all of the other de-googled Android variants are little better than a dumb phone.
Hey I hear you. I’m big on privacy. But privacy is a niche now, because mainstream consumers just don’t care, so we (as a whole) have brought this situation (only one privacy-focused smartphone company) on ourselves. I’d love for other privacy-focused smartphones to come out and give Apple some competition. But it’s not really Apple’s fault that there aren't, unless you count Apple making really good products as a fault.
 
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Is there any relationship between any USB(-C) standard and charging speed? I guess not since current phones have fast charge even over lightning, but I’m not sure if that applies to USB-C as well.
Yea I don't even know all the USBC stuff. I just recently learned there is a 60W cable and a 100W cable. And I know some things won't charge unless the charger is PD.
 
Yea I don't even know all the USBC stuff. I just recently learned there is a 60W cable and a 100W cable. And I know some things won't charge unless the charger is PD.
Standard cable is around 30W max. 60 and 100W cables can do more if the charger and chargee support it.

PD is the standard charging protocol on USB-C devices. USB-A had various other protocols.

If you mix via adapters, devices may not charge at full speed. Hence it is nice for the charger to display wattage or amps/voltage.

Same issue with lightning, depending on your charger/cable/adapter combination you get funny results sometimes.
My 18W charger for example can't charge my iphone at full speed when I use the original cable with an adapter. But it can if I use a 3rd party cable.
 
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If so, this is ridiculous and one if the most obvious ways to see they try to squeeze every penny out of the consumers. Most pathetic thing is this is probably limited by software.
Other pathetic thing is the consumers keep bending over and then throw their money at the next thing
 
Standard cable is around 30W max. 60 and 100W cables can do more if the charger and chargee support it.

PD is the standard charging protocol on USB-C devices. USB-A had various other protocols.

If you mix via adapters, devices may not charge at full speed. Hence it is nice for the charger to display wattage or amps/voltage.

Same issue with lightning, depending on your charger/cable/adapter combination you get funny results sometimes.
My 18W charger for example can't charge my iphone at full speed when I use the original cable with an adapter. But it can if I use a 3rd party cable.
The weird thing with us with 12PM and 13PM, the one port on the power bank won't charge them
 
What's even more ridiculous was apple developing USB 3 lighting connector and releasing it on the ipad but not the iphone.
That really disrupts the argument that it’s okay to have USB-C with 2.0 speeds on iPad and iPhone 15/Plus. Or that it’s a chip thing. They’ve literally had Lightning with 3.0 speeds. USB-C should not dip below 3.0, and honestly 3.2
 
You know you can just order a dozen cables for less than a dollar each from Aliexpress and then distribute them where you usually need them (car, house, workplace,..). That way, you always have a cable on hand.

Most modern stuff uses USB-C anyway, from the iPad over the Switch to the powerbanks.
Don't waste your breath. The Lightning fans are going the way of the 30-pin connector fans. Have you heard of them lately? The same will happen to these people in a few years, whether they like or not. Accesories change, cables change, everything changes, except for people complaining about change.
 


The iPhone 15 Pro models that are planned for next year will support higher wired transfer speeds thanks to the transition to USB-C, according to Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

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While all iPhone 15 models are going to feature USB-C ports instead of Lightning ports, the faster transfer speeds will be limited to the iPhone 15 Pro models. Standard iPhone 15 models will continue to feature USB 2.0 speeds, the same as Lightning.


Kuo says that transfer speeds will likely "improve markedly" on the iPhone 15 Pro models, with support for "at least" USB 3.2 or Thunderbolt 3. With the upgrade, iPhone 15 Pro models will be able to transfer video files and other file types at quicker speeds, with Kuo predicting a significantly improved user experience.

USB 2.0 transfer speeds are limited to 480Mb/s, while USB 3.2 supports speeds up to 20Gb/s. Thunderbolt 3 supports data transfer speeds up to 40Gb/s, so if Kuo is correct, there will be a major difference in wired data transfer speeds between Pro and non-Pro iPhone 15 models.

Apple is transitioning to USB-C across its product lineup, and the first USB-C iPhones are due next year. Apple is making the change in order to comply with European regulations that require electronic devices to have non-proprietary, common charging methods.

Article Link: Kuo: Only iPhone 15 Pro Models Will Support Higher-Speed Data Transfers With USB-C Upgrade
Apple new Corporate Motto.... Buy the most expensive or I'll throttle you!!!
 
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So what. You need differentiation between the tiers of phones. You pay extra for heated seats to be activated in a car even though in many cases the circuitry is already there.

The last time I plugged my phone into my computer with a cable was to Jailbreak it I think.
Comparing charging speeds to heated seats (which require completely different hardware) is next level apple sheeping...
 
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