Kuo: Sensor-Shift Image Stabilization Coming to 6.7-Inch iPhone in 2020, Periscope Lens to Follow in 2022

[MacRumors]

Apple is rumored to be planning a high-end 6.7-inch iPhone model for release in 2020, and multiple reports have indicated that the device will feature multiple rear camera improvements, including larger sensors that capture more light for better image quality.

The latest word comes from noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who today said that the 6.7-inch iPhone will also feature sensor-shift image stabilization. In a research note with TF International Securities, obtained by MacRumors, Kuo predicted that the technology will expand to two to three new iPhone models in 2021.

While details are slim, sensor-shift technology could bring image stabilization to the Ultra Wide lens on future iPhones, starting with the 6.7-inch model. iPhone 11 Pro models feature optical image stabilization for both photo and video, but only when using the Wide or Telephoto lenses. Sensor-shift technology would provide a solution for this, as the stabilization would apply to the camera sensor itself and not be dependant on any specific lens.

Sensor-shifting image stabilization could also result in better shots with attachable lens accessories like the OlloClip.

Taiwanese industry publication DigiTimes also claimed that sensor-shift image stabilization technology is coming to the 6.7-inch iPhone this year, so there are now multiple sources backing this rumor. The report claimed the technology would also be available on a higher-end model of two 6.1-inch iPhones that are rumored for 2020, but as mentioned above, Kuo expects the feature to be limited to the 6.7-inch iPhone until next year.

The rumored 6.7-inch iPhone would have the largest display of any iPhone ever. The device is rumored to be slightly taller than the iPhone 11 Pro Max.

Kuo today also predicted that at least one 2022 iPhone model will feature a periscope lens, which could allow for 5x optical zoom like Huawei's P30 Pro or even 10x optical zoom as is rumored for the device's P40 Pro successor. iPhones currently max out at 2x optical zoom and 10x digital zoom. Optical zoom preserves the quality of a shot when zooming in, while digital zoom results in some blurriness.

Kuo claims the periscope lens will be designed by Apple in partnership with Taiwanese supplier Genius Electronic Optical.

Article Link: Kuo: Sensor-Shift Image Stabilization Coming to 6.7-Inch iPhone in 2020, Periscope Lens to Follow in 2022

 

[The Game 161]

so is this saying no major improvement to zoom for this years models?

 

[johnyslats]

Lack of parity in the pro models this year then? Introducing iPhone 12 “Pro” and “not so pro“

 

[diddl14]

Hope sensor shift will be on all 2020-Pro models. Better image stabilization is nice but much more importent is the ability to capture and combine multiple shifted images, greatly reducing noise and low light effects.

Understanding Sensor-Shift Technology for High-Resolution Images

This article will help you understanding sensor-shift technology. Do you need it? What does it do? Does your camera have it? Find out here.

digital-photography-school.com

 

[Saturnine]

2022 - The Apple iCamera will also include smartphone features! 😝

 

[iLoveDeveloping]

5x or 10x zoom?!?! Nice, but secretly hope it’s not this years phone as I got an iPhone 11 Pro now and that would be a bummer. I only got the pro because I wanted the extra zoom - it comes in really hand sometimes. Dam you apple! 😄

 

[youdontsay]

Looks like we, smaller phone lovers, will endlessly get screwed 😂 Just when I started to accept going from 5.8" to 6.1" while previously dreaming of a PRO 5.4". Now I "have to" get that 6.7" tablet of a phone. That's a nope. Staying with my XS.

Yes, I know, First world problem. But still

 

[The Game 161]

Even without great zoom capabilities if the sensors are larger the image quality should be great…guessing night mode on all lens too which is a good improvement.

 

[FrankCataldi14]

Sounds nice---I'm just hoping to have a job when this thing is released. My XS Max is going to need to serve me for a loooooong time.

 

[MacDevil7334]

Really would be disappointing to see Apple return to limiting the most advanced features to the phablet model. It has been really nice to have the same feature set on all the X/11 series OLED models regardless of which screen size you want.

 

[Traverse]

While I understand the logic of adding features to the larger and more expensive model, I really hope this isn’t the case again. I pay the premium for the Pro variant because I personally like having the highest end camera, but a 6.7” simply isn’t for me so I will be sad to see the very best features locked behind a ludicrously large size wall rather than a paywall.

Honestly, that could get me to buy the 5.4” none-Pro. If I can’t get all the great features, I might as well get the size I want.

 

[Caliber26]

Really would be disappointing to see Apple return to limiting the most advanced features to the phablet model. It has been really nice to have the same feature set on all the X/11 series OLED models regardless of which screen size you want.

Totally agree. I finally decided to give the Max a chance when I got my 11 Pro, and while I do enjoy some aspects of a larger screen, I am SO ready to go back to a phone that’s more practical. If they are planning on limiting certain features to the largest flagship model, it’s going to be frustrating.

 

[sht]

URL said "kuo-iphones-sensor-shift-2021-periscope-2022."
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[scottinlexky]

the people who survive will be able to upgrade. good luck to you all.

 

[Scottsdale]

I think when some people bash products for being too big, but they want all of those nifty features in the smallest form factor possible, they're not realizing what they're saying. If the technology and demand were both there to pack every feature known and unknown to us, Apple would do it. Cannot fit all of these features without adding weight, size, thickness, and battery to the phone. Pretty soon that small iPhone you wanted with all of those specs you're dying for becomes a 6.7" monster of an iPhone. You cannot have everything and tiny at the same time.

 

[itsmilo]

iPhone 11s Pro Ultra Max? Coming this fall starting at only 1,499 $*

*64GB of course

 

[PlainviewX]

I don't think periscope means what they think it means...

 

[Burebista]

Apple needs to bring long-range zoom to its cameras faster. P30 Pro with periscope 5X optical (and 10X hybrid lossless) zoom was released a year ago, March 2019...

Now Kuo suggests it won’t be available until 2022. I could understand 1 year delay to polish the feature, but 3 years is way too long. Right now their expensive flagship still features 2X zoom introduced way back in 2016 with iPhone 7 Plus. It’s getting a bit embarrassing.

Anyone who tried 5X-10X lossless zoom knows what difference it makes compared to just 2X in street photography (architectural details as one example ) or nature (animals and such).

 

[barkomatic]

I don't want to buy a flat screen TV for my pocket, so I hope that these improvements simultaneously get released in the 6.1 inch variant as well.

 

[recoil80]

While I understand the logic of adding features to the larger and more expensive model, I really hope this isn’t the case again. I pay the premium for the Pro variant because I personally like having the highest end camera, but a 6.7” simply isn’t for me so I will be sad to see the very best features locked behind a ludicrously large size wall rather than a paywall.

Honestly, that could get me to buy the 5.4” none-Pro. If I can’t get all the great features, I might as well get the size I want.

Ditto.
Pro models should have the same feature. People should be able to pick the size they like the most. I get that battery life is better on the bigger model because there is room for a bigger battery, but as far as camera goes I want the same module on both phones

 

[now i see it]

Sounds like a gimmick except for those with palsy. I haven't seen one thread ever in several years of anyone ever complaining about blurry images caused by hand shake - and yet here we are with image stabilization being the main selling point
Ultra wide angle kenses especially don't need stabilization

 

[jlc1978]

Hope sensor shift will be on all 2020-Pro models. Better image stabilization is nice but much more importent is the ability to capture and combine multiple shifted images, greatly reducing noise and low light effects.

Understanding Sensor-Shift Technology for High-Resolution Images

This article will help you understanding sensor-shift technology. Do you need it? What does it do? Does your camera have it? Find out here.

digital-photography-school.com

The challenge I see for using it in a phone is that it increases exposure time, which means any subject motion could result in blurred images; plus since it isn't image stablization and camera motion will also potentially blur images.

It will be interesting too see how the technology will play out on phone; where a tripod is rarely used and generally images are captured similar to the point and shoots. We may see "the camera is bad" because people get images that do not live up to their expectations due to their not understanding what it can and can't do.

I suspect pros will find it more useful and understand and accept its limitations better.

I also sense a phone that sets new cost records.
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Sounds like a gimmick except for those with palsy. I haven't seen one thread ever in several years of anyone ever complaining about blurry images caused by hand shake - and yet here we are with image stabilization being the main selling point
Ultra wide angle kenses especially don't need stabilization

Sensor shift is not image stabilization.

 

[The Game 161]

Apple needs to bring long-range zoom to its cameras faster. P30 Pro with periscope 5X optical (and 10X hybrid lossless) zoom was released a year ago, March 2019...

Now Kuo suggests it won’t be available until 2022. I could understand 1 year delay to polish the feature, but 3 years is way too long. Right now their expensive flagship still features 2X zoom introduced way back in 2016 with iPhone 7 Plus. It’s getting a bit embarrassing.

Anyone who tried 5X-10X lossless zoom knows what difference it makes compared to just 2X in street photography (architectural details as one example ) or nature (animals and such).

Apple don’t often pack all features in one upgrade. It’s not to say we won’t have better zoom this year though as it was rumoured that it would be improving

 

[cmaier]

Sounds like a gimmick except for those with palsy. I haven't seen one thread ever in several years of anyone ever complaining about blurry images caused by hand shake - and yet here we are with image stabilization being the main selling point
Ultra wide angle kenses especially don't need stabilization

In low light, even on the wide lens, stabilization allows longer exposures. So it can’t hurt.

 

[iRutherford]

I'm so sick of stupid cameras. Can we please have real innovation for once?
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I think when some people bash products for being too big, but they want all of those nifty features in the smallest form factor possible, they're not realizing what they're saying. If the technology and demand were both there to pack every feature known and unknown to us, Apple would do it. Cannot fit all of these features without adding weight, size, thickness, and battery to the phone. Pretty soon that small iPhone you wanted with all of those specs you're dying for becomes a 6.7" monster of an iPhone. You cannot have everything and tiny at the same time.

They can. They just have to deal with overheating and abysmal battery.