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Ditto.
Pro models should have the same feature. People should be able to pick the size they like the most. I get that battery life is better on the bigger model because there is room for a bigger battery, but as far as camera goes I want the same module on both phones

absolutely agree to this dream of thinking!
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”STREAM” of thinking! I wasn’t being sarcastic ... although, come to think of it...
 
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Count me as one of the hopeful 5.4" Pro customers. That’s looking more and more like a pipe dream.
 
Really would be disappointing to see Apple return to limiting the most advanced features to the phablet model. It has been really nice to have the same feature set on all the X/11 series OLED models regardless of which screen size you want.
Wasn't it originally because of space concerns? OIS module was too bulky for smaller iPhones?
 
I've been following Apple's development of their zoomable periscope camera for years. There is some awesome potential with the methods they've invented. Of particular note is the use of a color-splitting prism that sends RGB to three different monochrome sensors. The benefit with this is that you don't need a bayer-pattern light filter over the sensor (this just wastes precious incoming light) so your efficiency is much higher, which is important for a zoom lense that already has a low f-number. I hope they actually do it. It will be expensive and hard to make, but it would be a truly awesome feature to have in phones. I was recently watching some old home movies and it made me miss the massive zooms on handicams!
 
while digital zoom results in some blurriness cropping and stretching the image makes it look terrible!
Fixed that for you!

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I'm surprised periscopes cameras are a new big thing. I thought it was an obvious solution years ago and figured the fact they weren't doing it was because there's some technical reason it doesn't work. I don't believe it's that nobody else thought of it at the time, so presumably there was some technical hurdle to overcome before it could become reality. Anyone know what that was?
 
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One does NOT need to be a Rocket Scientist to know that Sentiment has changed BIG time, OR that Apple's High-Priced products are NOT a Good Fit for the Times !

Apple R&D has probably already been told to pivot to low/mid-priced products !
 
I am using the 11 Pro Max. I could go a bit larger to 6.7".

When the iPhone gets 10x will it have real-time pic-in-pic capability? E.g. Move around a 10x magnifying glass in the 1x picture

It would be cool to take a picture and everything in the shot is in focus.
 
you know, i was super happy when with the xs/xs max release, both of the high end phones had pretty much the same bells&whistles, as opposed to the 7 vs. 7 plus. now they want to go back to this crap. i'm not getting a phone that will require a purse.
 
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This year it’s Samsung setting the price pace. Now it’s Apple’s turn to keep up with it. This will be Apple’s answer to the $1400 S20 Ultra. This tit for tat pricing will never stop.
 
If you buy a Pro phone, you should get ALL THE NEW FEATURES. I think Apple understands this, so I'm hoping the Max-exclusivity part of this report is mistaken.
 
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Just build a mirrorless camera iPhone or iPod with a 1" sensor size & interchangeable lens. We really don't need periscope zoom on an iPhone.

The crappiest entry-level dSLR is still miles better than iPhones if they're shooting for image quality, even with iPhone's AI image processing. iPhones only useful for convenience.

Also, the biggest factor affecting image quality for real cameras are the big, powerful flash you can attach to them.
 
In low light, even on the wide lens, stabilization allows longer exposures. So it can’t hurt.

Sensor shift won't help, and probably hurt since it shifts the sensor in a predefined manner to gain additional image information to use in creating an image; whereas IS moves the sensor in response to camera motion.

The two could compete with each other.
 
This year it’s Samsung setting the price pace. Now it’s Apple’s turn to keep up with it. This will be Apple’s answer to the $1400 S20 Ultra. This tit for tat pricing will never stop.

There will be a price increase but will be for 5G not features. However if we get 128GB as standard we should see double the storage from last year anyway
 
The camera for the iPhone will be the most essential component moving forward, mainly I want to see how it integrates with augmented reality. The ‘Periscope’ feature sounds interesting, but so much can change between now and 2022, but it goes to show you how much technology is evolving with the camera, it’s so much more than ‘point-and-shoot.’
 
While details are slim, sensor-shift technology could bring image stabilization to the Ultra Wide lens on future iPhones, starting with the 6.7-inch model. iPhone 11 Pro models feature optical image stabilization for both photo and video, but only when using the Wide or Telephoto lenses. Sensor-shift technology would provide a solution for this, as the stabilization would apply to the camera sensor itself and not be dependant on any specific lens.
I think this is a misunderstanding of what sensor shift would mean in an iPhone.

It's true that in a conventional, interchangeable lens camera, sensor shift stabilization can provide image stabilization regardless of what lens is being used - the image stabilization is part of the camera body, rather than the lens (in-lens stabilization is also utilized in many interchangeable-lens camera systems).

However, the smartphone approach is to have multiple cameras, each with its own lens and sensor. That's what allows apps like DoubleTake by FiLMiC Pro to capture video from two lenses simultaneously. Each camera/lens module provides its own stabilization (or doesn't, in the case of the Ultra Wide).

The solution to the Ultra Wide's lack of stabilization is a matter of Apple deciding to equip the Ultra Wide camera/lens module with any form of stabilization.
 
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Hope sensor shift will be on all 2020-Pro models. Better image stabilization is nice but much more importent is the ability to capture and combine multiple shifted images, greatly reducing noise and low light effects.



Sounds like a technology that's been around for quite a few years. Could this not have been implemented on earlier or current models or is Apple just holding back features for the next iPhone.
 
Oh well. I can stay with the X another year, if they screw up the smaller phone. Still fast and good battery.
 
The 11 Pro is so good that I would have no issue waiting another year (or two) if they expect me to buy a 6.7-inch phone to get all the Pro features. Just about the only thing I dislike about my 5.8-inch phone is that it's a bit too big.

Still most interested in this 5.4-inch model.
 
I’m with happy with my iPhone 11 Pro 5.8”. Fast, excellent cameras, and being the third iteration of the X family, it feels the most well rounded and polished. Should be a great phone for a few years.
 
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