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It is still very very different. They use different mussels.

If you ever done a cycling you would understand that. I ride quite a bit and running it very different on the drain on my body.

believe me, i know about both sports (mainly running though). in fact, a couple of my running buddies talked me into doing an 80 mile bike ride on mountain bikes. effort-wise, it was the same as going out and running 30 miles. i had trouble, but they were fine. they ride more than i do. so my point is that if you are talented at cardio sports, then you can be decent at any of them. if you are the best in the world at one, you should be better than average in some of the others, like biking/running.

i guarantee the average biker wouldn't have made it the 80 miles on my mountain bike. but most runners probably could
 
It is still very very different. They use different mussels.

If you ever done a cycling you would understand that. I ride quite a bit and running it very different on the drain on my body.

Yeah, if your are aerobically fit for running, cycling shouldn't be difficult. You use different muscles, and use them differently, but most of the difficulty in running marathons is related to fitness and how long you can move those feet at maximum output.


I wouldn't compare running and cycling, to something like rowing. Or swimming for that matter. However, running and cycling are fairly comparable.
 
believe me, i know about both sports (mainly running though). in fact, a couple of my running buddies talked me into doing an 80 mile bike ride on mountain bikes. effort-wise, it was the same as going out and running 30 miles. i had trouble, but they were fine. they ride more than i do. so my point is that if you are talented at cardio sports, then you can be decent at any of them. if you are the best in the world at one, you should be better than average in some of the others, like biking/running.

i guarantee the average biker wouldn't have made it the 80 miles on my mountain bike. but most runners probably could

still very different. His time where better than average.

Just I would not expect it to go beyond a certain point while biking can get better. There comes a point where you just max out at one sport but you can get better at the others with proper training. I do not think lance trains for marthons like he does biking. So his distance bike times will just be better.

I know my distance biking it a hell of a lot better than my distance running. But at the time time I do not run like I used to plus running is a lot harder on the joints
 
you do have to give the guy kudos for trying. The Tdf is a very grueling challenge of both mental and physical stamina as well as training and tactics. He does a have a good coach though... worse case scenario he ends up like Miguel Indurain in 96...
 
still very different. His time where better than average.

Just I would not expect it to go beyond a certain point while biking can get better. There comes a point where you just max out at one sport but you can get better at the others with proper training. I do not think lance trains for marthons like he does biking. So his distance bike times will just be better.

I know my distance biking it a hell of a lot better than my distance running. But at the time time I do not run like I used to plus running is a lot harder on the joints

Yes, but.....you're not Lance Armstrong. You don't have a resting heartrate of 30-35 bpm. You weren't born with the heart of a thoroughbred horse. Simply due to his fitness level and the nature of running, you'd think that even with 1 month of training, he'd kill it. He'd kill me in running even if I had trained for 6 months simply because his fitness level was there from the start, even if the muscles he needs to work most for running aren't all there, or aren't used to the sort of motion involved with running.

But I admit, you may be right. 3 hours is a good time, but for Lance Armstrong, who did train a little bit, it's not really up to snuff.
 
Yeah, if your are aerobically fit for running, cycling shouldn't be difficult. You use different muscles, and use them differently, but most of the difficulty in running marathons is related to fitness and how long you can move those feet at maximum output.

Maybe, but just because you can transfer from running to cycling doesn't make the reverse true. The impact on the legs from running is the thing that makes the difference, which is why Armstrong had shin splints for 4 months after his first marathon.
 
Maybe, but just because you can transfer from running to cycling doesn't make the reverse true. The impact on the legs from running is the thing that makes the difference, which is why Armstrong had shin splints for 4 months after his first marathon.

From the same article:
Armstrong said work with his foundation has taken him to Europe, Canada and Mexico in the last three months. He's not interested in training for much faster times.

"My lifestyle doesn't lead to that right now because I travel all the time and I hang out with my kids," he said. "(I) still like to go out and have fun and eat what I want and have a beer every now and again. I don't want to cut that out in order to run faster.

"I've done a lot of things in my life fast, so it's now time to do them just for fun and recreation."

Emphasis mine.


Lethal
 
still very different. His time where better than average.

Just I would not expect it to go beyond a certain point while biking can get better. There comes a point where you just max out at one sport but you can get better at the others with proper training. I do not think lance trains for marthons like he does biking. So his distance bike times will just be better.

I know my distance biking it a hell of a lot better than my distance running. But at the time time I do not run like I used to plus running is a lot harder on the joints

i'm not saying that lance should be setting world records, but he should be beating most girls. i mean seriously, if i were to train for a marathon, i could be lance armstrong. i am not joking.

Maybe, but just because you can transfer from running to cycling doesn't make the reverse true. The impact on the legs from running is the thing that makes the difference, which is why Armstrong had shin splints for 4 months after his first marathon.

again, everyone has to deal with stuff like shin splints. i've had 2 stress fractures in my shin. i know many runners who have had stress fractures also. but people just run thru shin splints
 
Isn't that lovely. The tour tries to clean up and it's trickiest doper returns. We already know he used Epo, he was just lucky that at the time it couldn't be detected, and when they did a few years later, only the A sample was useable.

So my guess is, he found a new drug that can't be detected yet so he is going for it again.

Great... yet another reason again to not watch the tour next year.
Cheers,

Ahmed

well, there is no proof in this. i'm not saying he did or didn't though
 
Isn't that lovely. The tour tries to clean up and it's trickiest doper returns. We already know he used Epo, he was just lucky that at the time it couldn't be detected, and when they did a few years later, only the A sample was useable.

Still sore about Ullrich, eh?
 
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