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LOL, I know you are not exaggerating at all... good old Apple Insider and their crazy forum members.

I am sure the words "paid shill" and "ANALyst" will also be mentioned ("analyst" when reporting something favorable to Apple, "paid shill" and "ANALyst" when reporting something not favorable to Apple).

And sooner or later someone will say, "Hey Tim, stop being gay and start focusing on how to sue Samscum and Google out of business" and there will be a fight about Tim Cook's right (or lack of a right) to be gay.
 
I'm having constant app crashes due to OOM errors - 8.1 is a RAM hog and I'm fed up. Putting out the 6 with only 1gig goes down as one of current management's greatest blunders. There are many others now of course.

8.1 runs fine on the two Ipad 2 I've used it on so your drama queening... No surprise of course, its SOP from certain folks around here.

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LOL, I know you are not exaggerating at all... good old Apple Insider and their crazy forum members.

I am sure the words "paid shill" and "ANALyst" will also be mentioned ("analyst" when reporting something favorable to Apple, "paid shill" and "ANALyst" when reporting something not favorable to Apple).

Actually, they're always bad no matter what they report. We"re just happier when their crap isn't negative ;-). Its like eating McD, you know its bad for you but eat it anyway...

Its just as bad in Android forums when reporting on anything Apple, which does sound strange since they're seemingly "winning" against Apple anyway in the market share race, so why should they be so strident about positive news about Apple?

There is a lot of shoddy reporting on every side in the tech press, especially now that journalistic integrity has almost become quaint and everybody's a "journalist". As for the so called financial analysts have been bad since well forever no matter what they report. Look at what they were saying just before the dot com crash of 2000 if you want to convince yourself of how bad they are!!
 
It may be because Apple was playing catch up to the other models that were already on the market so they may feel why change? Added, there may be a huge amount of folks that are still under contract with their Androids.
 
less popular than predicted.. lol

wow, that's really putting a nail in the coffin..

I guess u gotta try...... but why would Android users wanna switch to basically the same size phone ?

Maybe Android switches now know of these attacks too ? That would also add to the mix of switching.

If u are comfy, why change ? Security crap aside....... people only say that because they have no idea its the user to always blame for everything...

This is how Apple markets their phones anyway.... and its probably working..... (i guess)
 
Uh, you haven't experienced ******* insanity until you've waded into Appleinsider. I don't necessarily know how conversations about iOS can turn into rants about how West Africa deserves to be wiped out by Ebola and I bet they all use Android, but ...
 
Sampling 300 after launch is nothing. iPhone 6 Plus which most Android switchers the report states are switching too has an availability of 3-4 weeks. Considerng that with the 30 days after launch they did no wonder there won't be many.
 
I've been with an iPhone since the 3G and have marvelled at the consistent "smaller, lighter, faster".

The recent trend to bigger phones, or "bigger than bigger" as Apple brands it, is confounding. The iPhone 5 screen stretch was a bit annoying, as the 4S was great, but remember this ad? It seems that Apple can be pressured from their well-conceived designs by marketing-related fears despite their poking at MSFTs "scatter-brained"* approach.

It's a shame.. and this is the first major iPhone update that I have had zero interest in purchasing and intend to self-repair my iPhone 5 if necessary as it starts to break down to stay within iOS and away from the awkwardly massive screens. I held an iPhone 6 (not the Plus) and it is uncomfortably large - had to shift it more precariously into my fingers to give my thumb the flexibility to reach all that extra useless screen space. The feature to draw the screen closer to the bottom, even in the 4.7" model, is the clearest argument that the phone is too damned big and should never have hit store shelves. I hope the shift to larger phones is neither motivated by a desire to merge the iPhone and iPad SDKs nor leads to such a merger making it difficult to shrink the phones again in the future.

Any screen size increase should have eaten away at the bezels, not pushed the overall dimensions outward. And I really wish they'd rethink this bigger is better nonsense.. that's a tablet's design space. It is indeed bigger than bigger, but blunderously so. Phones should be smaller, lighter, faster.

Apple's marketing-related improvements should have been on their perpetually backwards hardware specs and, to draw more away from jailbreaking, further customizability of their devices (ie: a 5th column). There's nothing wrong with shipping with 1GB RAM if it cannot be filled for most uses over the next few years except that consumer ignorance and direct comparisons to competitor phones can't help but cost Apple sales. Now, if time shows that the 1GB is a engineered obsolescence factor (like the 3G's memory restriction did with future iOS releases) then the consumer frustration will be quite justified.

I hope the iPhone 7 shrinks back to more reasonable dimensions and that Apple's notion of customizability extends further than "we also introduced a dark mode!" - nice as it is.

* Finding the excerpt from an old keynote on MSFT's poor mobile-desktop SDK division would take too much effort at the moment. Too bad they didn't reuse this reasoning against Samsung's phablets instead of joining them.
 
UBS say good things of Apple, then they are reliable and serious.

I think CIRPS says negative things of Apple (they don't), the CIRP is evil

Are you people for real or do you really don't see how ridiculous you sound?

Well, I think you make a point critiquing what I posted actually. Sorry if what I said sounded ridiculous - not one of my stronger posts.

What I was meaning to comment about was that it seems like CIRP is a paid propaganda basement outfit with a predictable negative slant on Apple. I don't know if this is true or not actually, but that's my gut feeling. Research them and see if they have a "Steve Balmer" angel motivation factor haha.

To tell you the truth, most of the "news" these days is propaganda or just lacking any valuable insight. When it comes to things like Apple, there are not enough stock broker suits out there to really know what they are talking about. I know it, and maybe you do too. I should be thankful for this I guess, it's why the stock price is lagging behind the true value of the business, it's made me some money and it's made me feel "right" about something, which I enjoy I guess.
 
Well, I think you make a point critiquing what I posted actually. Sorry if what I said sounded ridiculous - not one of my stronger posts.

What I was meaning to comment about was that it seems like CIRP is a paid propaganda basement outfit with a predictable negative slant on Apple. I don't know if this is true or not actually, but that's my gut feeling. Research them and see if they have a "Steve Balmer" angel motivation factor haha.

To tell you the truth, most of the "news" these days is propaganda or just lacking any valuable insight. When it comes to things like Apple, there are not enough stock broker suits out there to really know what they are talking about. I know it, and maybe you do too. I should be thankful for this I guess, it's why the stock price is lagging behind the true value of the business, it's made me some money and it's made me feel "right" about something, which I enjoy I guess.

So, are you saying that UBS is paid propaganda basement or only those "anti Apple" are paid propaganda?

I bet that you only think that they are shills when you think they report bad things about Apple.

I bet you thought that last year they were the summum of objectivity, but this years, as percentage is lower they are evil

That say a lot of you, but each own with their bubbles
 
300 survey out of 10,000,000 is:

Accurate 19 times out of 20
+/- 5.66%

Sounds statistically relevant to me (provided the sampling was in line with accepted methodologies).

For a population of 300,000,000 (the USA, for example); in order to be accurate +/- 5%, 19 times out of 20 you need a sample size of 384.

Not as far fetched as some might think.


Yes I think you are right, but never let "facts" get in the way of the truth.

One memorable stats textbook I had in school years ago was titled "How to lie with statistics".
 
So, are you saying that UBS is paid propaganda basement or only those "anti Apple" are paid propaganda?

I bet that you only think that they are shills when you think they report bad things about Apple.

I bet you thought that last year they were the summum of objectivity, but this years, as percentage is lower they are evil

That say a lot of you, but each own with their bubbles

Yes, well you are not far from the mark on that comment.

I have a strong opinion. I am an Apple Fanboy - a pretty extreme one.

UBS is a Big European Bank right? Check their statistics on the same topic.

At the moment I am equating "CIRP" with "Wolf Blitzer" from CNN. lol

I think I know the truth about Apple and I put my money where my mouth is.

What I have found is that the guys who have been negative on Apple and basically concocting smear campaigns are easy for me to pick out and discard.

At the moment I am just happy that the big money seems to be seeing through the bologna and AAPL stock is going up, as I believe it should.

Check out Jim Cramer on CNBC and what he said today about Apple. All the false worries about Apple - none of them really meant anything at all. From viruses to bendy iPhones.
 
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So, are you saying that UBS is paid propaganda basement or only those "anti Apple" are paid propaganda?

I bet that you only think that they are shills when you think they report bad things about Apple.

I bet you thought that last year they were the summum of objectivity, but this years, as percentage is lower they are evil

That say a lot of you, but each own with their bubbles

I think it really depends on case to case, every one is different.

You like to pick out people who are brainless Apple sheep, but you conveniently never mention the opposite extreme like AppleScruff or Rock Spider, they keep blabbering idiotic hypothetical ******** that just never is confirmed, best example: Beats. Scruff/Spider/Moron said that "Beats will be praised from now on". It didn't happen.

So if you start dissecting this forum you might want to pick idiots/hippocrites like them too, thanks for you attention, it was a pleasure :) .
 
I bought a Samsung duos 2 years ago, to have a dual sim mobile phone and use it as my personal+my company device.
Sold 3 weeks later.
I can't use such a device... :mad:
 
So your telling me you bought a Iphone cash, since your buying your Nexus next year... Despite the fact you got EXACTLY what you knew you were getting you are here to talk about Android being better... OK.... Well, go ahead... And leave the forum too then, no need to hear about all that "good" Nexus experience here, there are forums for that.

Gotta luv you newbs coming in and telling us what to do :rolleyes:

BTW, this is Macrumors, not an iPhone dedicated forum....in case that fact eluded you silently !
 
Gotta luv you newbs coming in and telling us what to do :rolleyes:

BTW, this is Macrumors, not an iPhone dedicated forum....in case that fact eluded you silently !

I probably used Macs before you were born... In the 1970s!!, so hey!

Seriously, if you own anything Apple or know anything about Apple you'd know exactly what you'd get and wouldn't buy a $600 phones from Apple that's locked solid to curtail anything outside their vetted experience (unless your a developer and need to have one at hand...).

I've don't have anything against anyone buying a Nexus, even a Mac owner, but I've got a beef about someone complaining that a 6+ is not as unrestricted as a Nexus 6. That makes no sense coming from anyone, and especially not from anyone who knows Apple and owns anything Apple.
 
"A survey encompassing 300 customers"

well that is way to small of a survey.


You my friend have a keen eye! I stopped giving this article the time when they purposely kept that huge stat out till the very end!?? 300 survey out of over 30 million ?? Please! Easly could have said ALL surveyed Didn't leave for the iPhone !! 300???
 
Yes, well you are not far from the mark on that comment.

I have a strong opinion. I am an Apple Fanboy - a pretty extreme one.

UBS is a Big European Bank right? Check their statistics on the same topic.


Yap, a bank fined 2.7 billion euro for manipulating stocks, how can anybody not trust them over a "known" hater?

But as you said you're an extreme fanboy, don't let reality kick your bubble
 
GUI? You mean Android has command line features? :D

Yes, you can put a terminal on your Android I have on my transformer.

Side note: Why does everyone here equate Android with Samsung? Samsung is probably the least committed Android OEM out there there is a reason they maintain Tizen. On topic I think the folks on both platforms are pretty committed to their respective OS's. I think the only Android switchers you really see are people like me who just don't use their phone for much, the only things I use on my phone are free cross platform apps so I'm not exactly the guy you want. If you've got good money wrapped into you apps whats the benefit of loosing them to change OS's?
 
Yes, you can put a terminal on your Android I have on my transformer.

Side note: Why does everyone here equate Android with Samsung? Samsung is probably the least committed Android OEM out there there is a reason they maintain Tizen. On topic I think the folks on both platforms are pretty committed to their respective OS's. I think the only Android switchers you really see are people like me who just don't use their phone for much, the only things I use on my phone are free cross platform apps so I'm not exactly the guy you want. If you've got good money wrapped into you apps whats the benefit of loosing them to change OS's?

Most Android owners are uncommitted, don't use computer features on their phone as much, and certainly don't spend much on their phone or software.

What keeping them from IOS in general is money, not features; they don't care to spend much of it on a phone or tablet (for whatever reason). Most of them will never buy anything Apple since Apple is not going downmarket.

The people that could switch to Apple are the top 20% of the Android market. If only 50% of those think of switching to Apple, and 20% actually switch each year, that's a hell of a lot of profit going away from Android, even though it is only 4% of Android users.
 
Most Android owners are uncommitted, don't use computer features on their phone as much, and certainly don't spend much on their phone or software.

What keeping them from IOS in general is money, not features; they don't care to spend much of it on a phone or tablet (for whatever reason). Most of them will never buy anything Apple since Apple is not going downmarket.

The people that could switch to Apple are the top 20% of the Android market. If only 50% of those think of switching to Apple, and 20% actually switch each year, that's a hell of a lot of profit going away from Android, even though it is only 4% of Android users.


I disagree because those would be the most vested in the OS.

Folks with cheap phone are going to keep their cheap phones no matter what OS they run and no Apple isn't nor should it pursue that market. In the end I just don't think there is going to be all that much cross movement in the future maybe we should look at phone activations by people that just bought their first phone in various price brackets to assess the heath of mobile OS's vs how many switchers either side is attracting.
 
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