I agree, unfortunately, even though I'd want a slightly lower pixel density at 201 ppi.
I think you agree, but in a way these displays falling (far) short of the PDXDR is a good thing, for pricing reasons.
I agree with this too, but it's unfortunate.
Yup.
Agree. Sick of the rumors and guessing games and secrecy. I'm just over all of it. Transparency is needed and until then I'm completely done, (and have been done), with Apple. I haven't purchased a new Apple anything since 2019 because of this arbitrary secrecy BS and have been slowly extricating myself from the BS ecosystem traps as solutions become available. I'm probably not alone in this. There's probably a huge untapped market for those that can figure out ways to assist people in getting off the Apple addiction, especially figuring out how to painlessly ditch iMessage.
You know what I mean, no new Macs by the end of 2023? Does the hardware update stop in June 2023?We've already had new Macs in 2023.
I'd like to see the stats on that, but what I've seen is that the iMac vastly outsells both the Mac mini and the Mac Studio.
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No, I didn't know what you meant. You said 2023. Anyhow, my point was just that I don't expect a new M3 iMac this year. I could be wrong, and would be happy to be proven wrong, but I'm not at all optimistic to see it this year.
Pricing 99% of humanity out of the system at the drop of a dime.
Apple is experimenting with larger iMacs, including a model with around a 32-inch display, according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman. In his latest Power On newsletter, Gurman said these iMacs are still in early development, so he does not expect them to launch until late 2024 or at some point in 2025 at the earliest.
Gurman previously said Apple was developing a larger iMac with over a 30-inch display, and he has now specified that the display will be around the same 32-inch size as Apple's high-end Pro Display XDR monitor. Released in December 2019, the Pro Display XDR has 6K resolution for Retina-quality content and starts at $4,999.
Apple discontinued the Intel-based 27-inch iMac and iMac Pro over the past few years, and has yet to launch a larger-screen iMac with an Apple silicon chip as a replacement. Instead, Apple offers the 27-inch Studio Display, which can be connected to the Mac Studio or another Mac with Apple silicon, but this is not an all-in-one solution like the iMac.
For now, the 24-inch iMac is the only all-in-one computer sold by Apple. The current model with the M1 chip was released in April 2021, and Gurman expects an updated model with a faster M3 chip to launch by early next year. All current Apple silicon chips are manufactured based on TSMC's 5nm process, while the M3 chip is expected to move to a 3nm process for significant performance and power efficiency improvements.
Article Link: Larger iMac With Around 32-Inch Display Reportedly in Early Testing
There is still fall out from last years covid effected manufacturing in Asia that is why Apple is really playing their product introductions and updates very carefully. The updates Jan 17th of M2 Pro/Mac MBP's and M2/M2 Pro Mac minis was their first tepid step to recover lost ground. The WWDC updated M2 Ultra Studio Mac and M2 Ultra Mac Pro were predictable but necessary additions. The 15" MBA was something they thought would be popular enough as to boost their Mac revenues of all models that could ship in large quantiles.
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Ever since covid and the parts shortages, along with constrained shipping it appears Apple thinks about larger packages as a negative. So the large boxes that the 27” iMac used were not as valuable as many smaller boxes that other more profitable devices that Apple needed to store/ship. That’s more their thinking then large all-in-one have fallen from grace. So the more valuable a product and the less warehouse space is involved seems their current priorities.
). But it is clear Apple is not trying to sell large monitors to every Mac user . Who ever has looked at a 27” iMac and said,I never want anything bigger? 27” isn’t small but a 32” or 30” would be perfect. Vying a Pro Display XDR is too expensive and I already have had a 27” iMac 9 years ago And a 30” ACd a long time ago.
Yup. I've had a 27" iMac since 2010 and got a 30" ACD a few years ago too. I really like the usable size and aspect ratio of the 30" ACD, but these are no longer consider that big. Well, the chin of the 27" iMac is huge, and the bezels are big too, but the overall size isn't considered that big. And as some have mentioned earlier in the thread, if the bezel sizes are decreased, a 30" iMac wouldn't be that much bigger than the 27" iMac.
Lets use the HP Pavilion 31.5" as a example, does the size appeal to most consumers if the other choice is a 23.5" (24" IMac?
A 30" screen with thin bezels could actually be smaller than a 27" iMac by area, if the 30" was made with no chin.
True. So please wake me up if the next imac is wide, would be interested. But with 16:9 I'll pass and don't care about other specs.
If you don't care about other specs you could just get an ultra wide now with Mac mini.
Some people misinterpret comments in interviews. Use Tim Cook as an example he will refuse to answer/redirect the conversation against all comments about anything unannounced. The same can be true of other Apple management they won't imply or answer anything that people want a definitive answer too. it's all a game to them. They might have an upcoming product release but all have their poker faces on.
You misunderstand. The theory was that Apple was done with the larger iMac. That they would never make one again. And people said the Mac Studio was proof. If Apple comes out with a larger iMac it would prove that Apple doesn’t intend for the Mac Studio to completely replace the larger iMac. Otherwise why would they make a larger iMac if they think the Mac Studio should replace it?
Yeah, I'd put more credence into it if it were corroborated by some other rumor mongers (with different sources).
I would also prefer a machine without the chin (obviously), but one cable is more minimalist than a minimum of three cables for the Studio and Studio display. The iMac will also likely have Pro Motion, which can’t be accomplished with an external display apparently. And 32” sounds better than 27” to me.
It would sit too low with just a stand without the chin. Functionally the chin can house most of the computer aside from the display, but placing the computer portion behind a display would also raise the temperatures that the display panel is subjected to which is not desirable with a trim design.
Depends on your height and torso length. I found the 27" iMac a bit too tall, but I'm 170 cm (5'7") tall.
What is stopping Pro Motion on 32" screens? 6K/60 without Display Stream Compression works over existing links, so I don't see why 6K/120 couldn't work with Display Stream Compression turned on? Certainly it isn't a problem over HDMI 2.1.
