Larger iPhone 6, 'iPad Pro' and iWatch Could Tap New Display Sizes in Development

[Renzatic]

I showed photos .... You can try as hard as you wish to defend your beloved brand, but Nexus 5 is much bigger than iPhone, while Moto X is larger but still acceptable.

Yeah, that beloved brand I don't even own. I have an iPhone. Though admittedly, I have been interested in the Nexus stuff before.

The Moto X is almost identically sized in comparison to the 5S. The difference of a 10th of an inch in width and height. It's so slight, it's not even worth calling it "bigger". The Nexus 5? Yeah, it's bigger. Not much bigger. It wouldn't make any huge impact on every day use.

Now if you were talking about a phablet like the Note 3, you'd have a point. But you're not. You're arguing minutiae.

 

[NT1440]

Yeah, that beloved brand I don't even own. I have an iPhone. Though admittedly, I have been interested in the Nexus stuff before.

The Moto X is almost identically sized in comparison to the 5S. The difference of a 10th of an inch in width and height. It's so slight, it's not even worth calling it "bigger". The Nexus 5? Yeah, it's bigger. Not much bigger. It wouldn't make any huge impact on every day use.

Now if you were talking about a phablet like the Note 3, you'd have a point. But you're not. You're arguing minutiae.

I've held the X before, I think it really is the only phone on the market with a bigger screen that is nearly as comfortable to hold as the iPhone (again, for my hand size), though the S4 Mini is a pretty decent size if I remember correctly.

Once we start going 4.7" and bigger, I'm out.

 

[Renzatic]

Weight is only a small part of ergonomics.

I've used my sisters S4, I absolutely cannot reach parts of the screen when holding the phone in one hand. I want a phone that I can use comfortably with one hand because I don't like being distracted by my phone. I want to be able to grab it from my pocket, hammer out a text, and get back to business.

The 1/2" width difference on some of these phones really are a big deal for me. Now, I'm 5'6" and I do not have large hands. My friend is 6'2" and can comfortably use an S4.

I don't want apple to only offer the larger screens because it would be detrimental for me, but I understand completely that I'm a smaller than typical American.

Like I've said before, you're not wrong for wanting a smaller device. What I'm arguing is that 4" isn't the perfect size for everyone, that a 5" device isn't that much larger, and the people who do want an iPhone of that size are just as much in the right as people arguing that the current iPhone fits their needs perfectly.

In other words, there's no such thing as one size fits all, and it wouldn't hurt Apple at all if they threw an extra screen size into the mix.

 

[NT1440]

In other words, there's no such thing as one size fits all, and it wouldn't hurt Apple at all if they threw an extra screen size into the mix.

I agree with everything posted above this. But on this part, unless a size allows for simple resolution doubling, a different screen size creates a huge problem for developers. Apple has been very careful here to keep things consistent for their Devs, they are after all the reasons for the iPhones success after the first.

There is nothing impossible to do here, it just needs to be implemented in as automated a way as possible to avoid fragmentation.

 

[Renzatic]

I agree with everything posted above this. But on this part, unless a size allows for simple resolution doubling, a different screen size creates a huge problem for developers. Apple has been very careful here to keep things consistent for their Devs, they are after all the reasons for the iPhones success after the first.

There is nothing impossible to do here, it just needs to be implemented in as automated a way as possible to avoid fragmentation.

This is why Apple needs to switch to vectors sooner rather than later, which might be happening if they are actually planning on releasing a 12" iPad.

There'd be a big rush and crunch during the transition, but once it's in place, and everyone has updated their apps to support it, Apple is quite literally free to make any size and resolution screen they want. The only thing they'd have to worry about keeping consistent is aspect ratio, so it doesn't throw off everyone's UI layout.

 

[Max(IT)]

Yeah, that beloved brand I don't even own. I have an iPhone. Though admittedly, I have been interested in the Nexus stuff before.

The Moto X is almost identically sized in comparison to the 5S. The difference of a 10th of an inch in width and height. It's so slight, it's not even worth calling it "bigger". The Nexus 5? Yeah, it's bigger. Not much bigger. It wouldn't make any huge impact on every day use.

Now if you were talking about a phablet like the Note 3, you'd have a point. But you're not. You're arguing minutiae.

I'd like to have a nexus 5, too ...
This is not the matter.

The matter is nexus 5 is too big for me, and I absolutely hate the way smartphone market has gone, especially due to Android world.
I really hope Apple will offer a 4.7" comparable to Moto X, because something like Nexus 5 is barely acceptable for me.

I don't even speak about Note 3 and those ridiculous 5.5-6" devices.
They are not even phones to me.
I don't want to look like this ...

 

[Max(IT)]

Like I've said before, you're not wrong for wanting a smaller device. What I'm arguing is that 4" isn't the perfect size for everyone, that a 5" device isn't that much larger, and the people who do want an iPhone of that size are just as much in the right as people arguing that the current iPhone fits their needs perfectly.

In other words, there's no such thing as one size fits all, and it wouldn't hurt Apple at all if they threw an extra screen size into the mix.

Excuse me, where I did say 4" is the perfect size ?
Actually I'm looking for a slightly bigger iPhone 6, 4.5-4.7" would be the sweet spot for me.
I just don't want a 5+ " iPhone just to compete on the same ridiculous field droids are fighting ....

 

[jnpy!$4g3cwk]

My advice to Apple: make the iPhone 6 thicker with a higher capacity battery, and a larger and higher-res camera sensor. The rest of the 5S is just fine.

 

[kuwxman]

I showed photos .... You can try as hard as you wish to defend your beloved brand, but Nexus 5 is much bigger than iPhone, while Moto X is larger but still acceptable.

Marginally bigger my ...

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lol, the difference in size is the black part on the Nexus 5. We can agree on that, correct? Well, that top bezel is the width of a AAA battery at it's largest point. Hardly something to concern oneself over. The Nexus is hardly an overly large device. Saying that, the Nexus 5 has a 4.95" while the new iPhone 6 might have a slightly smaller 4.7" screen...making it on par with the size of that Moto X.

edit: Also, one of the pictures you posted as 'proof' of the Nexus 5 being incredibly larger than the 5S is crap. The phones aren't even lined up correctly. The Nexus 5 is sitting higher than the 5S adding increased height to the comparison, lol.

edit2: I see in a later comment you're OK with the size of the Moto X but not the Nexus 5. That's laughable considering how close they are in actual size.

To put that in Apple speak, roughly the increase in size from the 3.7" iPhones to the 4" iPhones. In English that translates to hardly noticeable.

 

[weeniewawa?]

Hmmm, I guess I am only one of the few who prefer a smaller device.

if you look at the facts about Apple widening it's share of the market, the users who prefer the current size seem to be in the majority.
https://www.macrumors.com/2014/01/16/apple-samsung-smartphones-2013/
I have the samsung s3 right now by mistake. and I also prefer the smaller size if only for one hand texting.

I bought it and was only going to have it for the 30 day and return plan and must have forgot how to read calendars and did not take it back soon enough and am stuck with it till the 6 comes out. counting down the days

 

[zipa]

Nexus 5 dimensions: 5.43 x 2.72 x 0.34 inches

Iphone 5S dimensions: 4.90 x 2.33 x 0.35 inches

OMG the iphone is thick as a brick, no way that anyone can use such a thick-ass phone without at least two hands and a tripod to support it on, I mean god, I'm 8'5" and can palm two basketballs at once but no way I can comfortably hold such a massive brick of a phone like OMG r u seriozz 4 real lollz OMG.

 

[Max(IT)]

lol, the difference in size is the black part on the Nexus 5. We can agree on that, correct? Well, that top bezel is the width of a AAA battery at it's largest point. Hardly something to concern oneself over. The Nexus is hardly an overly large device. Saying that, the Nexus 5 has a 4.95" while the new iPhone 6 might have a slightly smaller 4.7" screen...making it on par with the size of that Moto X.

edit: Also, one of the pictures you posted as 'proof' of the Nexus 5 being incredibly larger than the 5S is crap. The phones aren't even lined up correctly. The Nexus 5 is sitting higher than the 5S adding increased height to the comparison, lol.

edit2: I see in a later comment you're OK with the size of the Moto X but not the Nexus 5. That's laughable considering how close they are in actual size.

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To put that in Apple speak, roughly the increase in size from the 3.7" iPhones to the 4" iPhones. In English that translates to hardly noticeable.

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Keep defending your beloved brand, if you wish, but facts remain the same.
Moto X is the limit of what I consider as acceptable for a mobile phone, while Nexus 5 is on the brick side.
They are not close in actual size, the nexus is larger and taller.
Period.

 

[randian]

Well, that top bezel is the width of a AAA battery at it's largest point. Hardly something to concern oneself over.

So says somebody without small hands. That AAA battery is the difference between being able to use the phone with one hand and not.

 

[jnpy!$4g3cwk]

lol, the difference in size is the black part on the Nexus 5. We can agree on that, correct? Well, that top bezel is the width of a AAA battery at it's largest point. Hardly something to concern oneself over. The Nexus is hardly an overly large device. Saying that, the Nexus 5 has a 4.95" while the new iPhone 6 might have a slightly smaller 4.7" screen...making it on par with the size of that Moto X.

The Nokia 1020 with its higher-res camera is only 10.4mm thick, more than the Nexus or iPhone, but, about the same as the Moto X. I would rather have a slightly thicker phone with a better camera. I just don't see the attraction of super-thin phones.

 

[TC03]

The Nokia 1020 with its higher-res camera is only 10.4mm thick, more than the Nexus or iPhone, but, about the same as the Moto X. I would rather have a slightly thicker phone with a better camera. I just don't see the attraction of super-thin phones.

That's one of those things Apple and some of its customers will never agree on. The strategy of Apple (or Jony Ive to be more precise) is that technology is at its best when it becomes invisible. This means Apple wants its products to be thin and light for no other purpose than being thin and light and they will put great effort into achieving this.

 

[jnpy!$4g3cwk]

That's one of those things Apple and some of its customers will never agree on. The strategy of Apple (or Jony Ive to be more precise) is that technology is at its best when it becomes invisible. This means Apple wants its products to be thin and light for no other purpose than being thin and light and they will put great effort into achieving this.

But, what it really speaks to is that in the form-follows-function battle, the camera part is not given enough value by Apple designers. The cell phone camera has almost completely replaced the point and shoot camera for taking family pictures in the park or at the birthday party. As such, it should be higher quality than it is.

 

[Fattytail]

But, what it really speaks to is that in the form-follows-function battle, the camera part is not given enough value by Apple designers. The cell phone camera has almost completely replaced the point and shoot camera for taking family pictures in the park or at the birthday party. As such, it should be higher quality than it is.

I disagree. A phone is a mobile device that you handle several times a day and slip in and out of your pocket. Its thinness and lightness is an essential part of its function. It functions, first and foremost, NOT a camera but a mobile communications device. So the form factor must take precedence over the camera. Within those constraints, they've continuously improved on the camera in successive generations. I'm not sure exactly how good of a camera you're looking for given the current state of technology, but the 5s camera is pretty darn good already.

 

[randian]

But, what it really speaks to is that in the form-follows-function battle, the camera part is not given enough value by Apple designers.

Not sure why you say that, Apple's cameras always get the highest ratings. Not as good as an SLR or prosumer point-and-shoot, of course, but great for a phone camera.

 

[mr.bee]

Millions of people disagree with this thought process.

Millions of people go to Mc Donald's, does that make it the best option?

 

[MacSince1990]

This biological not physical.

Please notice the quotation marks around the word "physical." Physical was your word, not mine. Technically it's both biological and physical, though, is it not? Biology exists in the physical world.

And it is a lot more complex than you think. It dependents heavily on the raster and distance.

Obviously. But for all intents and purposes, unless you're pressing your nose to the display, it's enough. Don't split hairs.

So it is a moving target. 300 ppi is similar to 24fps in the movie business. It is not the optimal solution, its a compromise.

24fps is perfectly fine, for the most part, except perhaps with very fast action. Real life blurs. So do movies. That's a help.

 

[MacSince1990]

To put that in Apple speak, roughly the increase in size from the 3.7" iPhones to the 4" iPhones. In English that translates to hardly noticeable.

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>_> to be fair, the old iPhones were 3.5", not 3.7.

 

[HarryWild]

Anyone know when the iPhone 6 is rumor to be coming out? I heard that there will be two sizes too - 4.7" and 5.5" models.

I just hope they do it just after Samsung releases it Galaxy S5 and not wait for late September or Apple will loose a lot of market share...... again to Samsung.

 

[bigchrisfgb]

Anyone know when the iPhone 6 is rumor to be coming out? I heard that there will be two sizes too - 4.7" and 5.5" models.

I just hope they do it just after Samsung releases it Galaxy S5 and not wait for late September or Apple will loose a lot of market share...... again to Samsung.

Some people seem to think it will stick to it's September/October release date, however there are rumours that it will go back to it's June/July release date. All you will have to do is wait and see if there are any significant rumours or leaks.

 

[coldjeanzzz]

Big phones can be a pain in the ass. While I enjoy the screen of the HTC One for watching video, it's annoying to use one handed without the worry of dropping it. I can't reach every corner comfortably and when I'm using the phone in bed I have to rest it on my chest with one hand holding it from the top.

If Apple can figure out a way to make a 4.7" device that is entirely usable with just one hand I would be on that so quick. I will never again buy a larger Android device just for the screen size if it needs two hands to be used efficiently.

 

[niki.t.bowden]

If Apple can figure out a way to make a 4.7" device that is entirely usable with just one hand I would be on that so quick. I will never again buy a larger Android device just for the screen size if it needs two hands to be used efficiently.

I be old, and I thumble more than I once did, so I appreciate a larger format. I've always used both hands on the phone. I'm doing it now on my 5s.

Here's an idea. The iPod is discontinued - except for one model which unfolds to billboard size. Then Apple will have no need to backtrack on their stated antipathy to phablets, as this will be a whole new category.

Clever, whot?