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Larger or Smaller Touchscreen Device from Apple?

slick50zd1 said:
Actually there is, giving a set diagonal of the screen this requires that the "perimeter" of the screen must in fact be constant.

You can see the proof of my claim here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080423173845AAcK462

So please don't tell me I ditched geometry to get high, I just passed Calc 3 a week ago. :)
You should know your stuff before telling other people that they don't know theirs ;)
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What grade did you pass it with..? Your claim is false, I'm sorry. The page you link to proves something else. Message me privately for an explanation if you want; this thread is turning into a geometry class.
 
They are the same size as the touch screen panels from the already released Samsung F480 and F490.

Check them out as to what you can fit into a phone smaller than the iphone!
 
slick50zd1 said:
Actually there is, giving a set diagonal of the screen this requires that the "perimeter" of the screen must in fact be constant.

You can see the proof of my claim here: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080423173845AAcK462

So please don't tell me I ditched geometry to get high, I just passed Calc 3 a week ago. :)
You should know your stuff before telling other people that they don't know theirs ;)
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You are wrong.

2.8'' x 2.8'' is 4'' diagonal and 11.2'' perimeter
2.333'' x 3.222'' is 4'' diagonal and 9.1'' perimeter
Your link is about something completely different.
 
Littleodie914 said:
Actually...

It would, but I think you're misunderstanding his point. I think he's referring to the idea (bear with me) that if you have 40 yards of fencing, then to get the biggest area in your fence you would build a 10yd by 10yd fence, which is in fact a square, and gives you 100 square yards of space. :D
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I'm glad a lot of people ripped the guy for his original foolish post, but I am stunned that someone is trying to defend him. Fences may be measured in linear footage, but screens are, and have always been, measured diagonally. So he is WRONG!!!! :eek:
 
First, I love how one poster's comment of foolishness has turned this thread into Math 101
 
nilka said:
Well I really dont see any good reason for apple not top put a 7" tablet out in the streets. with asus, hp, dell, msi, and dozens of other computer makers pushing out 7-10 inch cheap laptops i dont see any reason why apple wouldnt do the same. And we all know apple always have their own aproach on things. I for one would love one if the enclosure isnt eny bigger than the screen or if it will e like a tablet pc with turnable screen. I have an asus eee and cant wait for the apple answer as the eee, is the computer I use the most even though I have windows on it.
It has windows to play starcraft before people rant at me having windows on it.

Nilka
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Yes, there seems to be a good amount of consumers interested in mini-notebooks about the size of a steno pad with a conventional keyboard that retails for ~$500. MSI's "Wind", with it's rounded corners, reminds me of Apple's iBook (pic below). A 7" screens seems to small -- a 10" screen that can display 1024 pixels (width) seem to be a good compromise...

Screw the touchscreen concept. Putting the multi-touch functions in the touch-pad would keep the cost low while keeping the usability high.
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First, I love how one poster's comment of foolishness has turned this thread into Math 101

Second, I love the continual argument about what "50/50 chance" really means

And third ... I wonder if everyone who says an iPad / Newton mid-size device is NOT happening has considered a possible hint in the WWDC poster. Two bridges coming together (and I recognize they could be going apart), but also considering the statement "Everything Mac. Everything iPhone".

A mid-size (say 7") tablet could give you the near full functionality of a Mac laptop with a full touchscreen and the near portability and freedom of an iPhone (3G, GPS, Wifi, etc). Just a thought.

I believe there is a specific reason for the Everything Mac. Everything iPhone." subhead on the poster. Apple has never wasted these types of comments, so Mac will be addressed and iPhone will be addressed OR a combination of the two platforms is possible alternative.

wwdc2008.jpg
 
BOSS10L said:
Ooh, ooh...My turn...I'm going to make a bold 50/50 prediction that Steve Jobs will introduce something new at WDC on Monday. And that he may or may not personally hand-deliver one to me. Now, where do I send my resume?
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No.

iMikeT said:
There's always a 50/50 chance on anything. I guess by saying that there's a 50/50 chance on this would be his "get out of jail free card" once people realize that he, like many other people who prey on rumors and speculation, is clearly talking out of his ass.
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No.

I know this has beed addressed previously in this thread, but I think it bears repeating again.

Just because something has a possibility of happening, doesn't mean that it's 50%-50%.

Will Steve Jobs hand deliver the new product to you tomorrow? Not very likely at all...definitely would round down to 0% chance. Will he announce a table? 50% likelyhood is a lot! 50% is good betting odds (better than any game in a casino)!

This tech writer has really gone out on a limb.
 
Donz0r said:
You are wrong.

2.8'' x 2.8'' is 4'' diagonal and 11.2'' perimeter
2.333'' x 3.222'' is 4'' diagonal and 9.1'' perimeter
Your link is about something completely different.
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Um ... I beg to differ but ... 2.333 x 2 sides = 4.666 and 3.222 x 2 sides = 6.444. 4.666 + 6.444 = 11.11 perimeter. Basic Math.
 
lol, wow

I never even realized there were two bridges in that picture.

I guess that proves that people initially only see what they expect to see...
 
Lots of TBD events at WWDC

Anybody take a look at the WWDC session schedule?

I see plenty - about 15 or so - sessions marked "Session to be Announced."

Anybody have any idea what that could be about?
- 10.6?
- New tablet device?
- Some kind of merge of the two?

I want to know...
 
macmike47 said:
Well I believe there's a 50/50 chance that Apple may or may not introduce either a tablet and/or 1-2 other new devices at WWDC.

Now will somebody pay me :cool:
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I'd say that you could confidently assert that there's a 100% chance of that occurring.
 
nilka said:
Well I really dont see any good reason for apple not top put a 7" tablet out in the streets. with asus, hp, dell, msi, and dozens of other computer makers pushing out 7-10 inch cheap laptops i dont see any reason why apple wouldnt do the same.
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I would say, that is probably the reason Apple wouldnt do it.
 
Ok, enough math people...seriously. :p

Mr Maui said:
I wonder if everyone who says an iPad / Newton mid-size device is NOT happening has considered a possible hint in the WWDC poster. Two bridges coming together (and I recognize they could be going apart), but also considering the statement "Everything Mac. Everything iPhone".

A mid-size (say 7") tablet could give you the near full functionality of a Mac laptop with a full touchscreen and the near portability and freedom of an iPhone (3G, GPS, Wifi, etc). Just a thought.

I believe there is a specific reason for the Everything Mac. Everything iPhone." subhead on the poster. Apple has never wasted these types of comments, so Mac will be addressed and iPhone will be addressed OR a combination of the two platforms is possible alternative.

wwdc2008.jpg
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I do find this interesting, but I could also see it as a way for them to show that the conference is about developing for Macs and developing for iPhones...the show isn't just about one or the other. In other words...don't let the iPhones steal the show.

They even support that with the paragraph at the bottom.
 
louden said:
Anybody take a look at the WWDC session schedule?

I see plenty - about 15 or so - sessions marked "Session to be Announced."

Anybody have any idea what that could be about?
- 10.6?
- New tablet device?
- Some kind of merge of the two?

I want to know...
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Yea, I have had a scan through all the days.

Sessions to be announced could be anything I suppose. Something to do with whats going to be announced at the keynote I would guess. Maybe integration of GPS into your apps or something along those lines.

Find Out Monday!!!
 
Santa Rosa said:
Those iLounge pictures look very dodgy.

Its difficult to see even with multi touch Apple wanting to go back into the sort of Newtonesk market again. The iPhone is just the right midpoint from having no computer, to having a laptop with you. Thats how it sits in that range so nicely. Anything bigger than that, but smaller than a laptop I dont see as really fitting in so good.

Then again it could be El Jobso's hobby project 2.
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A tweener device (smaller screen than a notebook, but doesn't fit in your pocket) isn't going to have nearly as big a market as either iPhone/iPod Touch or a new notebook computer.

But just to play devil's advocate here- it's not going to take much resources to launch a slightly bigger tablet that runs the same software as iPhone/iPod Touch- you're piggy-backing on an already existing (and very successful) platform. It was a lot different back in the day with Newton.

That being said, I don't really see it myself either. It might be interesting for Apple to release an EEEPC-like clamshell. I mean you already have all the basic apps right there, plus throw in some more 3rd-party stuff and you have a pretty viable sub-notebook (with touchscreen.)

I would MUCH rather have a iPod-Touch-esque clamshell with decent keyboard, than an EEEPC running Windows XP. Having owned an iPod Touch, I know what they are already capable of now even with the small screen and soft keyboard. Basically you'd be taking the MacBook air to an even greater level of 'airness'. ;-)
 
smaller?!!????!!!

Personally, I would hate a smaller iphone screen. Might be nice for the wife but why get an iphone that does so much if it is that small. I don't want to always hold the phone 2 inches from my face to see what I am doing.

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p.s. This is my T-Mobile brick that I get to ditch when I get the new 3G iPhone next week. oooh happy day!! :rolleyes::D:cool::p:apple:
 
Snow Leopard

This is actually interesting considering the unofficial announcement of "Snow Leopard" Maybe Snow Leopard will not be 10.6 but will be an operating system somewhere between Mac OS Touch (iPhone, iPod Touch) and Leopard (all of the Macs.)

A Touch tablet which is a large iPhone or miniMac, would require an Operating System that is not so much Leopard (don't need PPC support for an Intel only machine) but more versatile and user controlled then Mac OS Touch or whatever they call that OS.

I don't know if this was mentioned, I haven't had the time to read through the thread, but it would make sense - Cocoa only, no UB. Snow Leopard, less bugs, faster, slimmer OS.

What do you think?
 
D4F said:
I don't want nothing smaller then the current iPhone.
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Agreed. I want a LARGER screen, personally. I've got plenty of more room in my pocket for say a 4" or 4.5" screen. It'd make browsing without having to pinch constantly a lot more tolerable. A smaller screen? Geeze, I'm having a hard enough time typing on that virtual keyboard with the current 3.5" screen. 2.8" would be unusable and 3.2" would be typos everywhere. I'm 6'2" and my fingers are NOT tiny.
 
NT1440 said:
i feel like at this point I cant even stand anymore of the rumors, yea they are fun but i have this knot in my stomach everytime a new rumor surfaces. I think im going to stop reading the rumors if i can. Hell, im not even interested in the friggin phone and i cant stop myself from wondering.
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yeah, I know what you mean. I was thinking the same the other day. Just turn off my Mac, and turn it on again on Monday, when the WWDC starts too see the news. But hell, there's a reason why were on macRUMORS.com at the moment. I am just to curious what might comes out!
 
If it were going to have happened, Apple wouldn't have released the MacBook Air. That's the Mac for on-the-go people, and the iPhone is something else entirely.

Apple aren't going to move in to every product space you dream up just because it looked cool in your dream.
 
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