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OP, I notice you've at least 3 threads basically telling us you don't want big screen and that others should also adopt your preference. You received high number of vote downs on all these threads. Doesn't that tell you that most of us like to see redesigned iPhone with a bigger screen already?
 
Bigger screen makes txt easier to read or you are able to put more on the screen. It does not matter if the screen is 10k x10k I would still need to zoom in to make the txt or picture large enough for me to read/see it.

The is a reason you have not seen retina display phones out side the iPhone. It is not because they can not be bought but because they know you gave very little with the increase pixal density. Larger screens just show more information in a size people can read.
 
Eerrr.. Let's just purchase a tablet as it's getting cheaper..

But a tablet is not a phone, nor is it pocket friendly. I really hate when people say "if you want a bigger screen get an iPad". If an iPad did what I needed it to do I'd have one, but obviously it doesn't because what I want is a bigger phone.
 
But a tablet is not a phone, nor is it pocket friendly. I really hate when people say "if you want a bigger screen get an iPad". If an iPad did what I needed it to do I'd have one, but obviously it doesn't because what I want is a bigger phone.

Totally agree. I also hate to hear people giving out the "if you want big screen just get an iPad" comments. I already have an iPad but it does not do the job as a bigger phone, which is pocketability and better user experience.

A PC and tablets are like trucks and car, but many of us want a 9.8 inch tablet, not 7 inch, not 13 inch.
Similarly, a tablet and smartphones are also like trucks and car, but many of us want a 4 to 4.3 inch smartphone, not 3.5 inch, not 5 inch.
 
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Apple are probably in a bit of a dilemma here. They probably don't want to fragment their product line too much nor have to provide for another resolution in iOS if that becomes necessary if they go for a bigger screen.

The Android companies can produce a range of devices and cover those options very well.

I'm happy enough with the current screen size not to be bothered about a larger screen but can see that the increased space could be an advantage
 
OP, I notice you've at least 3 threads basically telling us you don't want big screen and that others should also adopt your preference. You received high number of vote downs on all these threads. Doesn't that tell you that most of us like to see redesigned iPhone with a bigger screen already?

Yet none of you has answered my question, which is why Apple didn't put in a 4 inch screen in iPhone 4 in the first place? Keep in mind that technically going for 4 inch is a downgrade, not upgrade.
 
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We NEED a bigger screen. Having an iPhone since 2007, I've been in situations where a bigger screen was needed and it was quite frustrating.

Apple please dont give us no BS 3.7". 4" or more!!
 
Keep in mind that technically going for 4 inch is a downgrade, not upgrade.

It may be downgrade to you, but upgrade to most of us. It has been answered but you just refuse to listen. 288 dpi is still a fantastic resolution. If dpi is your only measure for screen quality, then you're saying iPad screen is worst than iPhone's, which surely isn't so.
 
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OP, I notice you've at least 3 threads basically telling us you don't want big screen and that others should also adopt your preference. You received high number of vote downs on all these threads. Doesn't that tell you that most of us like to see redesigned iPhone with a bigger screen already?

Yet none of you has answered my question, which is why Apple didn't put in a 4 inch screen in iPhone 4 in the first place? Keep in mind that technically going for 4 inch is a downgrade, not upgrade.

A downgrade?? For iPhone users, it's a HUGE upgrade!
 
I use the iphone as a pocket computer and a bigger screen would be very nice to have for browsing reading and about everything I do on it. Websites, email, book reading, typing etc all will be better with a bigger screen. I don't even necessarily ask for increasing the pixel count, they could put a 4" in there and keep the same. Going to a 4.5" or so would likely require some more pixels to keep the same sharpness going though, would love for that to happen.

Ipad or kindle fire just isn't portable enough, sorry not interested in carrying one of those around.

When I really get down to it nothing on the phone 5 makes me want to spend $700+ on it except for a new screen. My phone 4 isn't slow and I think the camera is good enough. No bigger screen means a no buy consideration to me. The only thing that could possibly make me think twice about it is this voice to text possibility, if they do that without data usage offloading to a data center I will look at that with interest.
 
Yet none of you has answered my question, which is why Apple didn't put in a 4 inch screen in iPhone 4 in the first place? Keep in mind that technically going for 4 inch is a downgrade, not upgrade.

Because 3.5" was ideal then. Competitors released larger phones, and they've been popular. Apple maybe didn't think 4" was sufficient when they were working out the ideal size back during the original iPhone development. Prior to the original iPhone, phones were going to a more smaller, compact size. And the quality for a good 4" screen maybe wasn't readily available as a 3.5" back then either.

Reading your original post, you seem to think Apple actually makes the screens themselves - "after all the challenges they overcame with the retina..."
 
It's not really as "important" as it is just something that people want. And most of them for no good reason. Same thing with TV's. I'm into home theatre and I help a lot of people buy and set up their new TV. People will spend more money getting a 50" TV rather then a 46", just because it's bigger. And even though the optimal viewing distance would say a 46 is perfect, they still go for the bigger one, again, just because it's bigger.

I see the same thing with speakers. I'm a Paradigm guy and I always recommend them whenever I can. I always see people looking to spend a ton more money on bigger speakers when smaller ones would sound exactly the same given the room size and dimensions. They will NEVER use the power of the bigger speaker and sonically the smaller ones would sound just as good. But because they are bigger people will waste money thinking their getting something better. Even after listening to both. It's crazy, yes. But it happens all the time with many different products.

Just another quick one...my friend who is a casual computer (Internet, email and maybe a document here and there) was buying a new PC. I tried taking him into an iMac but he wasn't going for it. Anyway, long story short he spent a few hundred dollars extra to get a 1 TB hard drive vs 500 gig and 8 gig of ram vs 4. It was a complete waste. He will not even use 50gig of space and will never run anything that 2 gig of ram wouldn't handle effortlessly. But he just thought it was BETTER to have more space and more ram. Just a total waste IMO, but he had to have it.
 
It's not really as "important" as it is just something that people want. And most of them for no good reason. Same thing with TV's. I'm into home theatre and I help a lot of people buy and set up their new TV. People will spend more money getting a 50" TV rather then a 46", just because it's bigger. And even though the optimal viewing distance would say a 46 is perfect, they still go for the bigger one, again, just because it's bigger.

I see the same thing with speakers. I'm a Paradigm guy and I always recommend them whenever I can. I always see people looking to spend a ton more money on bigger speakers when smaller ones would sound exactly the same given the room size and dimensions. They will NEVER use the power of the bigger speaker and sonically the smaller ones would sound just as good. But because they are bigger people will waste money thinking their getting something better. Even after listening to both. It's crazy, yes. But it happens all the time with many different products.

Just another quick one...my friend who is a casual computer (Internet, email and maybe a document here and there) was buying a new PC. I tried taking him into an iMac but he wasn't going for it. Anyway, long story short he spent a few hundred dollars extra to get a 1 TB hard drive vs 500 gig and 8 gig of ram vs 4. It was a complete waste. He will not even use 50gig of space and will never run anything that 2 gig of ram wouldn't handle effortlessly. But he just thought it was BETTER to have more space and more ram. Just a total waste IMO, but he had to have it.

That's why people like your friend and people who want Samsung Galaxy this and that won't become Apple customers, because Apple is not about spec for the sake of spec. Apple release products based on what they think it's the best, not what people think it's the best. And it's with that arrogance, Apple became the most successful company in the world.
 
That's why people like your friend and people who want Samsung Galaxy this and that won't become Apple customers, because Apple is not about spec for the sake of spec. Apple release products based on what they think it's the best, not what people think it's the best. And it's with that arrogance, Apple became the most successful company in the world.

And it's with that arrogance that Apple may again lose that spotlight. It's happened before, I think they need to tread very carefully for the next few years.

"I won't give you what you want, I'll give you what I think you want"... would you accept that kind of thing from anyone else?
 
Because 3.5" was ideal then. Competitors released larger phones, and they've been popular. Apple maybe didn't think 4" was sufficient when they were working out the ideal size back during the original iPhone development. Prior to the original iPhone, phones were going to a more smaller, compact size. And the quality for a good 4" screen maybe wasn't readily available as a 3.5" back then either.

Reading your original post, you seem to think Apple actually makes the screens themselves - "after all the challenges they overcame with the retina..."

May I ask which competitor's larger screen phone has became more popular than the iPhone 4?

Of course Apple doesn't make the screens themselves, but they come up with design specifications and they overcome technical challenges with the ODM. Apple didn't just buy the iPhone 4 retina display off the shelf, because it didn't exist back then. Do you honest think that it was easier to make a 336dpi screen than a 298 dpi screen?
 
It's not really as "important" as it is just something that people want. And most of them for no good reason. Same thing with TV's. I'm into home theatre and I help a lot of people buy and set up their new TV. People will spend more money getting a 50" TV rather then a 46", just because it's bigger. And even though the optimal viewing distance would say a 46 is perfect, they still go for the bigger one, again, just because it's bigger.

You'll be proud to know that when I bought my 42" tv, the sales guy was doing a hard push for me to buy the 50" since it was only $100 more. But my space situation is such that 50" would have been just too big, so I stuck to my plan.

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Please help me understand why a larger display in the next iPhone is so important to you.

Apple designed the iPhone to be ONE hand device. In other words, you could walk the entire screen with the thumb from the hand holding it.

Remember the iconic iPhone picture with one hand holding the device?
You cannot do that on a 4+ screen.

However, somewhere along the way, they found that people REALLY loved playing with their iPhone and were using them with TWO hands, blackberry style.

For a TWO hand use, the 3.5in is too small. Even 4in might be too small.

Anyway, if Apple does make a bigger iPhone they will do their ergonomics math right and this bigger iPhone will not replace the existing one but will supplement it.
 
I think it would be nicer to have a little bit bigger screen because I type 99% of the time with the phone not in the landscape position, it is just faster and it is usually how I hold the phone anyways. But in this position my fat fingers hit the wrong keys sometimes.

Also, when viewing text, you can double tap and the screen auto adjusts to the width of the text which on a larger screen would get bigger and easier to read.
 
There is only one reason why I do not want a larger screen... Having to relearn the keyboard. After 4 years I have it completely memorized, hardly really every have to look while typing. That will soon completely change and I can see myself getting annoyed quickly. Other than that I completely welcome a larger screen.
 
I think that a larger screen would be a lot better because it would meka typing a lot easier and browsing. Games would also become better to play because you can see more. And just giving it a bigger screen would be a lot easier to read web pages without scrolling back and forth everywhere. But overall the larger screen would definately be an upgrade.
 
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