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Last Chance to Get VLC for iPhone/iPad? Likely to be Pulled from App Store?

has anyone actually got it to play many things? i threw a whole bunch of videos that play fine in the desktop version, but only 3 small music videos show up on the ipad version - which then crashes after 2 seconds.
i'll stick to using Handbrake to convert any videos that I can't get directly in iTunes friendly format
 
I don't see what's the problem here. App Store provides the binary and videolan.org provides the source. Or is the source for iOS specific modifications missing?
 
bananas said:
I don't see what's the problem here. App Store provides the binary and videolan.org provides the source. Or is the source for iOS specific modifications missing?
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Concisely as possible: the objection appears to be that Apple is wrapping FairPlay around the binary. This is the part which “impose further restrictions on the recipients' exercise of the rights granted” (as the article cites).

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Non concisely:

The thing about FairPlay is that it is lousy for Music and Video, but has actually been quite good for software as a large number of small developers can distribute software for significantly lower costs* to a large audience. It works for developers and it works for customers and I don't think the good points get talked about enough (or at all).

And mobile software by its nature typically only works on one platform. Music and film should be able to play on anything. Most users run into no issues with FairPlay on apps, whereas FairPlay on TV Shows, Film and (in the past) Music comes with a lot of headaches and very few benefits. And in the specific case of VLC the “restrictions” FairPlay adds are more philosophical than practical. Most normal iOS users probably don't even know it is there.

* They don't have to charge extra to account for piracy - or more accurately spend time and money devising systems for serial numbers/registrations.
 
tkermit said:
Like I wrote in that other thread, my interpretation differs from yours:

"Apple manages to keep VLC out of the app store, VLC being one of the [few free] media players on there that will play a wide variety of content from sources other than Apple. Yet Apple will still be seen as the good guy in the end, since they at least did approve the app and in the end, by finally pulling it from the store, only did what was legally required of them. Honi soit qui mal y pense."

If you assume, that Apple would rather not have VLC on the app store, then they actually now got someone to do the "dirty work" for them. But yeah, maybe I'm underestimating the negative effect on Apple's PR (and/or overestimating their dislike of apps like VLC) ...
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Blah blah blah blah ... And oh yea ...... BLAH!!!!

What were we talking about??? Oh yea!!! Blah blah. Your delusional.
 
J273 said:
Just downloaded..Just incase it gets pulled
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In case none of you guys haven't noticed it yet... But exactly there is the problem with the GPL and the AppStore: Not having the chance to obtain and install the software without the AppStore is already a violation of the GPL and contradicts the spirit of FREE software.

Maybe the same people should sue Apple for using WebKit in their Mobile Safari. That would be fun -- after all, a lot of the stuff that Safari uses is GPLed software... :)
 
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/532.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.5 Mobile/8B117 Safari/6531.22.7)

Apples fault... ;)
 
Hawkeye411 said:
Blah blah blah blah ... And oh yea ...... BLAH!!!!

What were we talking about??? Oh yea!!! Blah blah. Your delusional.
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Charming. I thought Canadians were polite?! ;)

You do realize of course, that I'm not seriously insinuating Apple actually planned for this to happen. I'm just saying, that they're not necessarily unhappy about it. Monsieur Denis-Courmont would probably agree with me on that.

Rémi Denis-Courmont said:
Someone even told me, Apple would actually like to get rid of VLC (of course, I can't verify this).
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Winni said:
In case none of you guys haven't noticed it yet... But exactly there is the problem with the GPL and the AppStore: Not having the chance to obtain and install the software without the AppStore is already a violation of the GPL and contradicts the spirit of FREE software.

Maybe the same people should sue Apple for using WebKit in their Mobile Safari. That would be fun -- after all, a lot of the stuff that Safari uses is GPLed software... :)
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Stop planting seeds in Stallman's head.
 
VLC is one of my most used iPad apps at the moment. The worst thing with this news is that the latest build of VLC has a big bug - every 10-15 minute it will freeze up. I assumed that it would be fixed in the next submission, but it would suck if it gets pulled and therefore the bug is never ever fixed!

PS. There is a workaround to the freezing that I saw posted somewhere. When the playback freezes, you hit the FFWD button 2 or 3 times (although it doesn't seem to do anything), then hit Done. Then you can start playing where you left off.
 
Just downloaded it but apple can yank it off our pads if they want to. If they do, this will be the straw that broke the camels back, and will move over to HP when the webOS tablet comes out. Apple is getting way to greedy, trying to close there system more so we can keep paying the piper. This cloud computing is already beginning to stink very bad. :mad:
 
vincenz said:
You don't have to convert pirated videos to sync to your idevice :)
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Exactly, i think too that's what this is all about. Apple looking for an excuse to get rid off this pirate-movie-player. Apple has too many stakes in the tv/movie industry, I was surprised to see VLC was admitted to the app store at all.
 
cazlar said:
VLC is one of my most used iPad apps at the moment. The worst thing with this news is that the latest build of VLC has a big bug - every 10-15 minute it will freeze up. I assumed that it would be fixed in the next submission, but it would suck if it gets pulled and therefore the bug is never ever fixed!

PS. There is a workaround to the freezing that I saw posted somewhere. When the playback freezes, you hit the FFWD button 2 or 3 times (although it doesn't seem to do anything), then hit Done. Then you can start playing where you left off.
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I was really hoping for a bug fix too, and I don't have a backup if the previous version.
 
NOV said:
Exactly, i think too that's what this is all about. Apple looking for an excuse to get rid off this pirate-movie-player. Apple has too many stakes in the tv/movie industry, I was surprised to see VLC was admitted to the app store at all.
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How do you figure VLC is a pirated movie player? Plays all my legit movies better that anything out there including apple's software!
 
sjo said:
Well that's pretty much what I asked. Why was Nokia brought into this conversation in the first place? To throw mud?
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No, it doesn't prove anything to the slightest degree, it's kind of interesting. There are thousands of contributors to any large OSS project, and in this case, the only one that filed an objection happens to work for a company that has competing platform. Given how many people in the OSS community bicker over software licensing issues, I'd think that a lot more people would have already objected simply on the principle of the issue. This project was well known to be under development in the VLC community for many, many months and this objector didn't say zip until now? Why the wait? The iOS project wasn't a secret.

Hawkeye411 said:
Your delusional.
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His delusional what?
 
I'm all for opensource (heck I work with and run a number of opensource projects) but the FSF are *******s. There's no reason why GPL software cant be distributed as a packaged item, but provide a link to the source. But being anal they demand the source is distributed with all packages.
 
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